Ratings vs Everton
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Mikegold
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I agree but I went to our last home game against Norwich and they were pretty much switched throughout and I thought Lamela was excellent. It suprised me but he really was. (On the right, not suprising he played well).Felt that was exactly the reasoning behind it, but to our detriment.
Lamela and (even more so) Eriksen are not as comfortable out wide on the side of their natural foot (I'm sure there's a less cumbersome way of saying that, but it eludes me for now)
I think the feeling was Lamela offers more discipline, but it was the least effective he's been in recent weeks, and Eriksen didn't do much of note out on the right, and it was only when he drifted that he really got involved.
The right side seems to be a problem for Poch, especially when Lamela doesn't play there, We've had all sorts of square pegs out there; Eriksen, Mason, Dembele, Alli, even Tommie C have all played out there at times and probably Mousa has looked most comfortable. I think Lamela, Son and Chadli should be the choice for that side in that order. Keep the CM's or ACM's in CM or ACM...
JonnySpurs
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Bit late to the party and continue to be blown away by this thread every week. I just don't understand what some people see when they watch us play.
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Toby - He was magnificent and the ball to Alli was pinpoint and one of many great long passes.
Alli - Very good all round performance.
8:
Jan - Man-marked Lukaku all game and kept him largely in check. Could've done better trying to block Lennon's shot.
Davies - Really solid. Defended Deulofeu superbly considering how dangerous of an attacker he is. Got forward well too.
Lloris - Not a huge amount to do but rock solid when called into action.
7:
Walker - Defended well and starting to make better decisions with crossing.
Dier - Decent overall.
Eriksen - Tidy but still lacking a little something. Not as crap as some are suggesting but still not one of his better games.
Carroll - Better than I thought he would be. Some nice tidy work, kept us ticking but dropped off quickly in 2nd half. Should've been subbed around 70 mins for Bentaleb as Besic took over the midfield battle when he came on. Nabil would've countered that I feel.
6:
Lamela - Worked hard as always but felt he made some strange decisions in attacking 3rd today.
Kane - Awesome strike to hit the post but did struggle to effect the game in 2nd half. Tough day for him, looked very tired by the end. Perfect example of a game where we needed a genuine striker coming off the bench to give Kane a rest and put the shits up the oppo defense.
Net:
Son - Some really poor touches when he came on. Struggled to have any real impact. Shouldn't have fouled Stones when he was twisting and turning inside his own 6 yard box.
Chadli - No impact on the game.
Onomah - Didn't do much but looked lively. He should've come on over Chadli with Bentaleb on for Carroll.
Poch - We looked superb in first half, played Everton off the park and were unlucky not to be 3-0 or 3-1 up at HT. However, when Besic and Deulofeu came on I don't feel we made the right subs to counter them effectively and in the end we were hanging on a bit. We're better than Everton and could have won that game if we'd been smarter with our 2nd half tactics/changes.
9:
Toby - He was magnificent and the ball to Alli was pinpoint and one of many great long passes.
Alli - Very good all round performance.
8:
Jan - Man-marked Lukaku all game and kept him largely in check. Could've done better trying to block Lennon's shot.
Davies - Really solid. Defended Deulofeu superbly considering how dangerous of an attacker he is. Got forward well too.
Lloris - Not a huge amount to do but rock solid when called into action.
7:
Walker - Defended well and starting to make better decisions with crossing.
Dier - Decent overall.
Eriksen - Tidy but still lacking a little something. Not as crap as some are suggesting but still not one of his better games.
Carroll - Better than I thought he would be. Some nice tidy work, kept us ticking but dropped off quickly in 2nd half. Should've been subbed around 70 mins for Bentaleb as Besic took over the midfield battle when he came on. Nabil would've countered that I feel.
6:
Lamela - Worked hard as always but felt he made some strange decisions in attacking 3rd today.
Kane - Awesome strike to hit the post but did struggle to effect the game in 2nd half. Tough day for him, looked very tired by the end. Perfect example of a game where we needed a genuine striker coming off the bench to give Kane a rest and put the shits up the oppo defense.
Net:
Son - Some really poor touches when he came on. Struggled to have any real impact. Shouldn't have fouled Stones when he was twisting and turning inside his own 6 yard box.
Chadli - No impact on the game.
Onomah - Didn't do much but looked lively. He should've come on over Chadli with Bentaleb on for Carroll.
Poch - We looked superb in first half, played Everton off the park and were unlucky not to be 3-0 or 3-1 up at HT. However, when Besic and Deulofeu came on I don't feel we made the right subs to counter them effectively and in the end we were hanging on a bit. We're better than Everton and could have won that game if we'd been smarter with our 2nd half tactics/changes.
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I don't disagree with you overall statement, but I don't think Son fouled Stones at all. All he was doing was heavily pressing him and Stones was finding it difficult to deal with it, and the ref for some reason let Stones off and it was suddenly a foul.
theShiznit
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Agree, the ref must've felt sorry for him as he gave Stones a massive get out of jail free card there.
Nothing even resembling a foul occurred.
jamesc0le
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the only thing i remember from this game is lamela turning inside and crossing the ball with his right peg. if keeps developing this part of his game he will be spurs next 80 million worth of player, no doubt about it. and if the good times are coming , like they seem to be, he and spurs may not even be fussed about cashing in on such an offer..
JonnySpurs
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I totally hear what you're saying but I recall a brief moment where Son grabbed at Stones' shirt and whether we think that was enough of a foul or not is irrelevant when the ref thought it was. For me there was no need for Son to grab at him in any way, he should've just kept his hands down and continued to hassle and Stones would've possibly coughed the ball up to him or another of our attacking players.
It's like when a player is penned in by his own corner flag. The one thing you don't do is foul the kid by being too eager. You gotta pressure him just enough into making a mistake.
With all that said, it wasn't a big deal, i just remember it annoying me at the time.
Mr Pink
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Even Stones looked perplexed by it...as he did his calm down to the home support as well ie everything under control sort of thing.
Michael Oliver is one of the worst referees in the division.
steve
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Just watched it again, Son grabbed his shirt and Oliver saw it. I think he's comfortably one of the best referees Pinky.
Mr Pink
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Not in my opinion or experience he isn't -, but if you say so Steve!
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Shadydan
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He's fucking awful.
steve
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Do you think he was poor Sunday? Aside from the fictional non foul by Son (who quite clearly grabbed the shirt - also at what point did Stones look perplexed by the foul? He didn't) do you think he got a lot wrong? The ref away at west brom was miles worse as an example.
None of them are perfect of course and they all make mistakes but Oliver has more balls than most when it comes to not being swayed by the crowd and keeping a cool head.
Mr Pink
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I think he got plenty wrong on Sunday, albeit no major decisions. Of course they'll all make mistakes but I honestly think Oliver is one of the worst in the top flight, every time I watch games he does I find myself totally exasperated - and that includes games that don't involve Spurs.
As for Stones that's what I recall thinking at the time but I'm not going to get into a pedantic debate over whether someone looked perplexed or not....that's completely open to interpretation lol.
THFCSPURS19
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By the shape of his eyebrows, I would say it was more a look of 47.2% confusion, 50.8% relief, and 2% 'I fucking wish I was at a bigger club'. The degree of his eyeballs also indicate this.
Bus-Conductor
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I've just watched it again, @steve is right (I missed this watching it live) if you look at 88.03 Son grabs the back of Stone's shirt. It's a fucking stupid thing to do because he has him squirming and it gets him off the hook.
I thought it was a poor decision a the time but it wasn't. I tend to agree with Steve as well about Oliver in general, I think he's better than some. He certainly hasn't annoyed me lately that I can remember. There's very little theatrics with him, he gets things wrong, but I don't notice the guy to much in games which is usually a good sign with refs.
I thought it was a poor decision a the time but it wasn't. I tend to agree with Steve as well about Oliver in general, I think he's better than some. He certainly hasn't annoyed me lately that I can remember. There's very little theatrics with him, he gets things wrong, but I don't notice the guy to much in games which is usually a good sign with refs.
I would then advice you all to Watch Skrtl or Shawcross at Corners. Sometimes i just Get the feeling that the bar is on different levels, dependant on person or situation.
Do you think Rooney would have been penalised in that situation?
I'm not sure. And maybe it was a freekick by laws, and maybe it looks stupid, but anyone who has played a game knows that its natural to take hold of a shirt or an arm. Its at least more natural than running with your arms down the side...
Just my onions...
THFCSPURS19
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Fair enough. Oliver's still a **** though
Anurag Jo
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We have probably said that about every referee in this world.
