Redknapp Out; Villas-Boas In

[talkshowhost86]

When does Harry's contract expire incidentally?

Although I'd rather see Harry stay on I will caveat that with the fact that if he can't promise us that he'll stay more than a year then maybe we should think about moving on.

The reason I want Harry to stay is because chopping and changing has never helped Spurs, but equally a manager who isn't committed to the cause won't help either. Personally I don't think Harry is as certain to get the England job as people make out, and he may not want it as much as he's previously suggested. But I hope Levy is asking him to commit for more than a season if he is going to keep him on.

 

[kishman]

I believe it runs out at the end of the 2012/2013 season.

 

[midoNdefoe]

Redknapp is not consistency. He's out the door the next time England lose a match.

A new manager with a long-term strategy (alongside a new DoF) will give us greater consistency.

A new manager before the summer, rather than in October, will give us greater consistency

A contradiction in terms.

Change = consitency? I think not!

Why would we get rid of the manager who has got us to the top 4 taken us on our maiden voyage in the CL to the quarter finals against madrid, and bring in another mildly successful foreigner in the hope he might grasp the premiership within a few years.

FFS Dan, a long term strategy? Sign me up for some more transitional seasons!

Fire redknapp incase someone offers him a new job?! :clap: Logical!

 

[roosh]

He deserves a crack at it next season, he's earned that much.

This has been a learning curve for both him and the players, trying to balance CL with the league. United and Arsenal used to struggle with league form in the early days of their CL qualification, so the fact that we have shouldn't really come as a surprise.

 

[nidge]

Just had a quick look to compare this season with last and it interesting to note that we have more or less the same points haul. (26 last season 23 this with 2 away games left.) But it is our home form that has deserted us this season last season we won 14, drew 2 and lost 3 game with a haul of 44 points. This season we have only managed 8 wins, 9 draws and 1 defeat so a points haul of 33 with one game left.

Our home draws are Man City, Everton, Sunderland, Chelsea, Man Utd, West Ham, Arsenal, West Brom and Blackpool.

It's odd because we have actually lost 3 less games than last season although we do have 3 games left to play.

Of the 9 games at home their are at 5 maybe 6 games where I could have seen us getting the full 3 points. It really drives home to me how close we were to a really good league season.

That being said our form since March works out at 1.1 points per game.

 

[steve]

:shrug: I thought he did quite well - he is running a formerly genuinely big club with high expectations on an absolute shoe-string. While they aren't pulling any trees up I would say, apart from some terrible starts (sic.) they pretty much hold their own. He hasn't made that many big signings, of necessity, but of the ones he has I can't think of any disasters. Fellani has been good IMHO, Saha definitely worth a gamble, the Yak was good until he was injured. Selling Lescott and then getting Distin and Heitinga in was wheeler-dealing to rival our very own 'Arry. He has also shown a willingness to take risks on lower league players everyone else was looking at with Cahill, and that has been a success - even if driven by the necessity of having little money. At worst, I would say the jury is still out on that one, at best, he looks a shrewd investor.

Yes agree with all that - I just meant not having had much money to spend will he spend it wisely once he's got it? Remember coming to Spurs with the extra quality and money will bring expectations he MAY struggle to live up to - the example is Francis at QPR who was very successful with QPR and worked his limited money on transfers well but then struggled a bit (to say the least) at Spurs when he had more wedge.

That's my doubt really - although as you pointed out Fellaini was his big money move and a good one.

 

[nidge]

He deserves a crack at it next season, he's earned that much.

This has been a learning curve for both him and the players, trying to balance CL with the league. United and Arsenal used to struggle with league form in the early days of their CL qualification, so the fact that we have shouldn't really come as a surprise.

That's not really true though. It's only since we went out of the CL that our form has really dipped. (See my above post.)

If people want to claim players are tired then Harry needs to take the blame for not rotating the massive squad that we have. (Some pundits claimed we had one of the best squads in the league at the start of season.)

 

[dvdhopeful]

Just had a quick look to compare this season with last and it interesting to note that we have more or less the same points haul. (26 last season 23 this with 2 away games left.) But it is our home form that has deserted us this season last season we won 14, drew 2 and lost 3 game with a haul of 44 points. This season we have only managed 8 wins, 9 draws and 1 defeat so a points haul of 33 with one game left.

Our home draws are Man City, Everton, Sunderland, Chelsea, Man Utd, West Ham, Arsenal, West Brom and Blackpool.

It's odd because we have actually lost 3 less games than last season although we do have 3 games left to play.

Of the 9 games at home their are at 5 maybe 6 games where I could have seen us getting the full 3 points. It really drives home to me how close we were to a really good league season.

That being said our form since March works out at 1.1 points per game.

I was thinking back to the Man City game, first game of the season, just last night - really has been the embodiment of alot of our problems this year - absolutely battered them but ended up with a 0-0. Thinking back to Man U, Wigan, West Ham, West Brom and even Chelsea, were all similar stories.

 

[talkshowhost86]

Just had a quick look to compare this season with last and it interesting to note that we have more or less the same points haul. (26 last season 23 this with 2 away games left.) But it is our home form that has deserted us this season last season we won 14, drew 2 and lost 3 game with a haul of 44 points. This season we have only managed 8 wins, 9 draws and 1 defeat so a points haul of 33 with one game left.

Our home draws are Man City, Everton, Sunderland, Chelsea, Man Utd, West Ham, Arsenal, West Brom and Blackpool.

It's odd because we have actually lost 3 less games than last season although we do have 3 games left to play.

Of the 9 games at home their are at 5 maybe 6 games where I could have seen us getting the full 3 points. It really drives home to me how close we were to a really good league season.

That being said our form since March works out at 1.1 points per game.

I was thinking back to the Man City game, first game of the season, just last night - really has been the embodiment of alot of our problems this year - absolutely battered them but ended up with a 0-0. Thinking back to Man U, Wigan, West Ham, West Brom and even Chelsea, were all similar stories.

It's a bit depressing isn't it as it makes you realise how close we were to a great season. I wonder if we harp on about our lack of strikers too much but it genuinely starts to look like we were 1 or 2 good strikers away from being fantastic.

So do you praise Harry for getting the team so close to that level or castigate him for failing to get that final piece of the puzzle?

The sensible answer would be a little from column A and a little from column B, but Spurs fans seem to want to do one or the other.

 

[nidge]

I was thinking back to the Man City game, first game of the season, just last night - really has been the embodiment of alot of our problems this year - absolutely battered them but ended up with a 0-0. Thinking back to Man U, Wigan, West Ham, West Brom and even Chelsea, were all similar stories.

If and it's a big if we had won the West Brom, Blackpool and West Ham games (games most would agree we should win) we would be level with Man City going into a crunch game on Wednesday. Throw a win against Wigan and would actually be 3 points clear of City.

 

[nidge]

It's a bit depressing isn't it as it makes you realise how close we were to a great season. I wonder if we harp on about our lack of strikers too much but it genuinely starts to look like we were 1 or 2 good strikers away from being fantastic.

So do you praise Harry for getting the team so close to that level or castigate him for failing to get that final piece of the puzzle?

The sensible answer would be a little from column A and a little from column B, but Spurs fans seem to want to do one or the other.

It definately a little from A and little from B. My issue is that when everything goes well we praise Harry (and rightfully so) but when things go wrong we should just stand by him and not question whether he is the right man for the job or ask whether he can recognise his failings and change accordingly.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

get rid of Redknapp???

get rid of the fans who wants to get rid of Redknapp.

get rid of the fans that want to get rid of the fans that want to get rid of Redknapp.

 

[talkshowhost86]

It definately a little from A and little from B. My issue is that when everything goes well we praise Harry (and rightfully so) but when things go wrong we should just stand by him and not question whether he is the right man for the job or ask whether he can recognise his failings and change accordingly.

Yep as I said earlier he makes mistakes (one of which seems to be failing to realise his own mistakes) and those should be recognised. The failure to secure a striker is the glaring one but there have of course been others.

But every manager makes mistakes (just look at Mourinho against Barca) and that doesn't mean he should be sacked.

If we keep this team together and add a quality striker or two, it genuinely looks like a title competing team and I worry that a new manager would rip that up, start again and leave us in another 'transition period'.

 

[DoublePivot]

get rid of the fans that want to get rid of the fans that want to get rid of Redknapp.

get rid of fans with superfluous nipples.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

get rid of fans with superfluous nipples.

That's all male fans isn't it ?

 

[DoublePivot]

That's all male fans isn't it ?

It's a third nipple and just meant as a random example of turning on each other.

Male nipples might not be necessary, but we have them for a reason (which is we share DNA with our mothers that brings a lot of other very necessar things to the table, like your immune system)

 

[Crow]

I'd like to see us stick with Redknapp, but I'm a little concerned with who he will try to bring in during the summer. The signing of steven pienaar was a strange one and not needed IMO, and targets like P Neville leave me doing a Glenn Hoddle (scratching my head)

 

[DoublePivot]

I'd like to see us stick with Redknapp, but I'm a little concerned with who he will try to bring in during the summer. The signing of steven pienaar was a strange one and not needed IMO, and targets like P Neville leave me doing a Glenn Hoddle (scratching my head)

It really is weird. Because for me, Pienaar seemed someone Harry wanted for that quality of grit/leadership he so focused on. But they he won't play him. So was it not someone he wanted? It all does my head in

 

[Legacy]

Why would a manager, renowned for his man-management skills suddenly alienate one of his best players?

There has to be something in there, why are you ignoring that...

Why don't you ask Niko Kranjcar that question?

 

[DoublePivot]

Why don't you ask Niko Kranjcar that question?

or Bentley

or Hutton

or Bent

It's seems to be his most consistent skill set