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Redknapp Out; Villas-Boas In

mpickard2087

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It really is weird. Because for me, Pienaar seemed someone Harry wanted for that quality of grit/leadership he so focused on. But they he won't play him. So was it not someone he wanted? It all does my head in

I have thought this too, and Im baffled, I could seriously think of about a million players I would have for 'grit/determination' rather than Pienaar, he is reasonably enthusiastic (bit like Park at Utd) but he aint gonna provide leadership.

Thinking about it more it just seems he had the ability to play right or left which we needed with Bentley gone and he has effectively taken his place on the bench/not even on the bench.

If only Harry had been concentrating on a striker instead :cry:
 

Dan Ashcroft

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DP - any comments on the possible candidates from the Bundesliga - Kloop, Rangnick, van Gaal etc?
 

DoublePivot

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van Gaal is known to get on the outs with a player and lack the tactical nuance to have a plan B. Reminds me a lot of someone you don't like

Ragnick just started with Schalke, so I doubt he's going anywhere.

Kloepp seems invested with Dortmund in my opinion. But he's not without ambition. I would think that ambition would keep him at BVB one more year. May depend though. Losing Sahin must have sucked and if gets his team gutted then he may well be off. Remmeber, he discovered almost everyone of those starlets...Sahin wasn't his though.
 

DoublePivot

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He didn't sign any of them.

But his job isn't to just get on with his own players. In fact, that suggests he's an absolutely terrible man manager. Wenger and Ferguson got along with many of their early players. That's actually a disturbing fact
 

Mr Pink

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But his job isn't to just get on with his own players. In fact, that suggests he's an absolutely terrible man manager. Wenger and Ferguson got along with many of their early players. That's actually a disturbing fact

Well aware of that, but we were talking about Pienaar and Kranjcar which makes it even more baffling.
 

Mr Pink

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Harry is at Fulham, maybe he'll learn a thing or two. Liverpool working their nutts off and are 3-0 up....its what we need as a side, to work a lot harder collectively.
 

Mr Pink

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I see where I diverged from the issue at hand. Sorry for the confusion :up:

No probs :wink: You watching the Fulham/Liverpool game? Pool are playing with real appetite and working really hard, even still 3-0 up.

I tell you are mentality hasn't been right since Milan away.
 

nedley

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Harry is at Fulham, maybe he'll learn a thing or two. Liverpool working their nutts off and are 3-0 up....its what we need as a side, to work a lot harder collectively.

In the pundit studio or actually doing some work?
 

Graysonti

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Redknapp is seriously trying my patience.

Lack of striker over last two windows (makes me cry everytime I see Suarez) and constant self promoting.
 

Dan Ashcroft

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Harry is at Fulham, maybe he'll learn a thing or two. Liverpool working their nutts off and are 3-0 up....its what we need as a side, to work a lot harder collectively.

Liverpool are the complete anithesis of us. They have averge players but are organised and play to a plan. We just chuck out our great players and hope one or two of them are on song.
 

stemark44

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Watching Liverpool playing like that just makes me angry with Redknapp.
What was his excuse for us drawing too many games recently?
Something like,the Champions League maybe took a lot out of the players and we are a wee bit flat in our play at the minute,not being able to beat times like earlier in the year.

Which basically sounds like a complete load of bollocks and indicates that he hasn't a clue where the problem lies.
 

TH1239

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It's simply stunning to watch Liverpool now that Suarez has settled in there. They are 7-2-2 since he arrived from Ajax. They've beaten City, United, and Chelsea in that timespan! I'll state what many may be afraid to: Had we bought Suarez in early January, we would've finished in the top 4.

If the rumors are true, Levy must be absolutely livid that Redknapp would pass on him. The explanation that "he's too similar to Van der Vaart" is still absurd to me. When was the last time VdV beat an offside trap, burst through and beat the keeper? When was the last time *any* of our strikers did that?

I sincerely hope Levy takes control this summer and signs Falcao, whether Harry wants him, or not. If Harry has his way, our special signings will be Parker and Neville, and we won't sniff top 5 next season, either.
 

Dan Ashcroft

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Watching Liverpool playing like that just makes me angry with Redknapp.
What was his excuse for us drawing too many games recently?
Something like,the Champions League maybe took a lot out of the players and we are a wee bit flat in our play at the minute,not being able to beat times like earlier in the year.

Which basically sounds like a complete load of bollocks and indicates that he hasn't a clue where the problem lies.

Liverpool have tactics to break teams down and a range of strategies.

We have "Kick it to monkey boy. Run monkey boy".
 

sunnydelight786

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/may/09/harry-redknapp-tottenham-manchester-city

Harry Redknapp did his best to sound optimistic. The Tottenham Hotspur manager made the right noises about his team being so close to a top-four finish. He even suggested that they had thrown away a golden opportunity. The door has been pushed shut by Manchester City and it will be locked tight on Tuesday evening if Tottenham fail to win at Eastlands. Redknapp said that with a few clever tweaks his club could be back again to challenge next season.
Yet the devil on his other shoulder had plenty to say, too. And the scenario that it painted felt apocalyptic for a club such as Tottenham. "I know people in the right positions [at City], who have said: 'The one thing we couldn't offer was Champions League football,'" Redknapp said. "But they tell me that they've got one or two players signed already who'll blow your brains out. They're not going to stop until they win the championship and even the Champions League.
"They don't need the money. The man from Abu Dhabi has got so much money ... I mean, it isn't like money to him, is it? City can be a real force next year. They've got a strong squad which is only going to get better because they've got unlimited funds to buy anybody they want and they can pay the wages. They've got players there now earning £200,000 a week. It's crazy. It's another world."
Redknapp's mathematics were not overly stretched when he assessed the long-term make-up of the top four. "As I've said a million times, who is going to drop out?" he said. "I don't think Manchester United or Chelsea are going to ... Arsenal have been there every year. Who is going to come out? Man City are going to spend another £200m, probably, this summer, Liverpool are going to improve, so it's very hard to get into that top four ... very, very difficult."
Do not talk to Redknapp about where it has gone wrong for Tottenham. To him it has been another richly encouraging season, underpinned by exciting football. He is fond of pointing out that Tottenham have not exactly been perennial Champions League contenders in the past.
In terms of the demise of their top-four hopes – even if Tottenham win at City, they would remain big outsiders – Redknapp has his theories. They include the mental and physical demands of the club's Champions League debut; the strikers' lack of Premier League goals; the frustration in the January transfer window and the failure to see off the teams at the foot of the table.
But Redknapp feels that the key has been the inability of Gareth Bale and Rafael van der Vaart to maintain their sparkling form from the first part of the season. Bale will now miss the final three matches with the ankle-ligament injury he suffered against Blackpool on Saturday. The damage has been confirmed as a rupture but, according to a club statement: "The player is expected to be fit for the start of pre-season." Ironically the setback may benefit Tottenham in that the big clubs circling Bale will have to maintain their holding patterns.
"We had our chances but we haven't been able to win games, we've been drawing them," Redknapp said. "That spark we had from people who were winning games for us ... Gareth and Rafa in particular ... we were relying on that. But we've lost that spark that makes the difference. I'm not blaming Gareth or Rafa, I'm just saying that they were so good.
"Gareth was the key. He was flying and, suddenly, we lost him for quite a long time [for six weeks from 22 January]. He hasn't really come back in the same form. In the last couple of months he hasn't got over the injury that he had before and it's taken a toll on him. Rafa has done great for us but, in fairness, he's tapered off after a hard season. In the main he hasn't been as good as he was early on."
Redknapp will seek to add "one or two players that can make the difference" in the summer and he added: "You don't always have to spend big money." United have proved that, he said, with the signing of Javier Hernández for about £7m before this season, while Redknapp also lauded his Bosman capture of William Gallas. There is little doubt, however, that the big bucks would help.

 
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