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England defender Danny Rose has candidly opened up about being diagnosed with depression which was sparked by a lengthy injury lay-off and a death in the family.

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This explains a lot about the time it has taken him to recover his form. Hopefully we will now see the best from him over the coming season.
 

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He praised the Spurs doctor and England management, but pointedly omitted Spurs management. I don't know what he is playing at, especially if this is the first time his parents are finding out. I'm not overly impressed.
 

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" really had to get away from Tottenham"
In the past tense. Could mean one of two things, he doesn't have to amy more, or, he has gotten away (IE, he's been told he can leave)
 
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He praised the Spurs doctor and England management, but pointedly omitted Spurs management. I don't know what he is playing at, especially if this is the first time his parents are finding out. I'm not overly impressed.

yeah if he had been more open he might have got more help.

He's just had the shittiest year of his life with injury, family dramas and depression, and the response is "I'm not overly impressed" and "if he had been more open..."?

It's pretty common with depression to try to hide it from the people you're closest to or from your workmates/teammates and try to struggle through it alone.

I hope some of the people who have been heavily critical of him over the last year can now show some compassion and understanding.

I'd love to see him back on top form again for next season.
 

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Lovely way for your parents to find out, Danny, in a national newspaper interview.

I’m guessing the uncle is one of their siblings, and your brother is their child, so on top of being racially abused themselves, they’ve had a pretty shitty year too, yeah? But you have the sense of awareness to know they’ll be angry but not the control to stop that happening, despite it being within your control?

Depression is a debilitatingly selfish condition, it’s so sad. Good for him to highlight the condition, maybe give the rents the news first, it’s the least they deserve
 
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Obviously a strange way to tell your parents....

But it's very brave to talk about this in an industry which doesn't have much sympathy for the individuals who work in it. Regardless of his fortunes and enviable lifestyle, depression is hugely debilitating and I have nothing but respect for him for opening up and talking about it.

You often don't hear about these stories until the illness has basically destroyed their careers. I hope this admission gives him an outlet to help him recover.
 
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Sweetsman

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He's just had the shittiest year of his life with injury, family dramas and depression, and the response is "I'm not overly impressed" and "if he had been more open..."?

It's pretty common with depression to try to hide it from the people you're closest to or from your workmates/teammates and try to struggle through it alone.

I hope some of the people who have been heavily critical of him over the last year can now show some compassion and understanding.

I'd love to see him back on top form again for next season.
I haven't been critical of him in the past year. What I'm not overly impressed with is his timing and the particular choice of words. There appears to be a family history of mental health illness given his uncle's suicide. I would have thought he might have wanted to speak to his family first. The criticism of his medical management is bizarre, because he also thanks the medical staff to refer him for help. The fact that they tried a non-surgical approach is very sensible as the first step. I'm sure Pochettino would have been aware of all this. This is the second time he has decided to criticise the club in public and that's what I'm not impressed with. I also don't buy England bring his salvation, because he's hardly played.
 

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I haven't been critical of him in the past year. What I'm not overly impressed with is his timing and the particular choice of words. There appears to be a family history of mental health illness given his uncle's suicide. I would have thought he might have wanted to speak to his family first. The criticism of his medical management is bizarre, because he also thanks the medical staff to refer him for help. The fact that they tried a non-surgical approach is very sensible as the first step. I'm sure Pochettino would have been aware of all this. This is the second time he has decided to criticise the club in public and that's what I'm not impressed with. I also don't buy England bring his salvation, because he's hardly played.

I didn't mean you being critical in the past - I meant others who have been doing that on here.

Timing isn't that bad - it's after the end of our season and getting things off his chest before the World Cup. I assume he cleared it with Southgate first, but not sure.

I assume he's being critical of the treatment for his physical injury, but grateful for the psychological help. Players do have disagreements about treatment, whether they're right or not - also he was frustrated and angry at not recovering and not playing.

I really don't see a big deal in his "criticism" of the club over this. Hopefully he's back on track now and back with us next season, but I guess we'll see...
 

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He praised the Spurs doctor and England management, but pointedly omitted Spurs management. I don't know what he is playing at, especially if this is the first time his parents are finding out. I'm not overly impressed.

Perhaps you should get a little perspective and recognise that being open and honest about his experience is more important than football. Here's a thought for you - if a player feels his employers did nothing to help him with his mental health issues, maybe you should give him the benefit of the doubt rather than getting upset because he didn't say some positive things (which he presumably wouldn't mean if they didn't support him) about the club.
 

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It's not the first time and it wont be the last that Danny Rose spews his guts to the media. If he has mental health problems, he clearly still has them as no-one of sane mind tells everyone in a fucking media interview when your own family doesn't even know.
 

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It's not the first time and it wont be the last that Danny Rose spews his guts to the media. If he has mental health problems, he clearly still has them as no-one of sane mind tells everyone in a fucking media interview when your own family doesn't even know.

Ignorant fucking comment.
 

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Rose is a bit of a drama Queen. Why he decided all of a sudden on the eve of a world cup to come out and air all he's pent up problems to the media.
 

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Personally, could not give a shit. Hopefully when the World Cup is finished, he’ll be off to whatever team will have him.
 

Disconosebleed

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It's not the first time and it wont be the last that Danny Rose spews his guts to the media. If he has mental health problems, he clearly still has them as no-one of sane mind tells everyone in a fucking media interview when your own family doesn't even know.

This sort of comment can be incredibly dangerous. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you said it through ignorance rather than malevolence and recommend reading up a little about mental health.

A couple of links that would be worth checking out to ensure you're well prepared if anyone you care about ever experiences mental health issues:

https://www.mind.org.uk/information-support/types-of-mental-health-problems/

https://www.mind.org.uk/information-support/helping-someone-else/

Try to think a bit more about what you're saying in future, not only for your benefit but for the benefit of those around you. For obvious reasons, mental health is a very sensitive subject and thoughtless comments can potentially have more serious consequences than you realise.

EDIT: same goes to @Double_A and @Yid_Summers. Educate yourselves. Football is not the most important thing in the world.
 

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He's just had the shittiest year of his life with injury, family dramas and depression, and the response is "I'm not overly impressed" and "if he had been more open..."?

It's pretty common with depression to try to hide it from the people you're closest to or from your workmates/teammates and try to struggle through it alone.

I hope some of the people who have been heavily critical of him over the last year can now show some compassion and understanding.

I'd love to see him back on top form again for next season.

I don't know the ins and outs of depression, i was just commenting if he had consulted somebody about his issues he might have got them resolved quicker. Not criticising him as like i said i don't know a great deal about depression.
 

double0

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Thank you so much for your warning @Disconosbleed

Rose is a drama Queen is want I said and I'm not taking it back. He has come out to the press first without consulting anyone other than his agent which Rose has admitted and instead of keeping it private within he's own circle has left himself own to all sorts...its a messed up society we live in at the moment and people will use these things against him...WHY would he do that?

Everyone has issues Rose could of spoke with friends family the club and specialist.
 

Disconosebleed

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It is a shame that you feel that way, I hope that one day you change your perspective through maturity and learning rather than experience, and that neither you nor anyone you care about ever experience mental health problems.
 

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Maybe he didn't open up about this more over the course of this past season because he simply doesn't owe it to anyone? Or because the same people that expect him to be perfectly forthright on this are also the same people who didn't miss any chance to take a shot at him over the past year especially?

Mental illness is a very difficult thing to deal with, and I can speak from experience as to how tough it is to open up to even your family about it. The people who know only him from a TV screen but expect to be fully informed about his mental state are supremely entitled and ignorant about issues like this, and should educate themselves instead of showing their asses to the rest of us.
 
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