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Rumours of training ground bust up with Harry

InOffMeLeftShin

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The papers love to stir things. Even if the journo did read to the end of the thread they want to keep the tension up and if the more fuel they can add to the fire the better. For them the longer our collapse goes on the more they have to print about our embarrassing position and if they can add contoversy to it then even better.

I hope all of our players read it, have a good laugh and then unite together to prove what an utter load of rubbish it is. I hope the fans can do something similar and ignore the extra media hype which has amplified the gloom recently and try to have a positive reaction to send the middle finger to all of these lazy, attention seeking journalists.
 

ziggy

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The last bit is definitely true. He used to always link up great with Modric, and before that, there was Berba. The rest at the time didn't understand you have to move to create space and oppoprtunities. Or so it appearred

Unfortunately this seems to have crept back in for the last couple of months :(
 

Leo

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Not a case of shit stirring its a case of letting the fans know what is going on and if certain players haven't been selected and never start again then they will know it's not the players fault?

If I wanted to read a made up piece of shit story I would of just bought a tabloid though. I find it sad you think you're doing people a favour by posting this crap.
 

Gilzeanking

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Goal.com have their Spurs experts with an 'exclusive' today, pretty much backing up most of the rumours of discontent within the squad for Redknapp and his lack of method: http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896...nham-players-revolt-against-manager-redknapp?

Of course they could just be making stuff up too I guess? But Stobart and Veysey generally seem to know their onions when it comes to us.

Right , well that pretty much confirms with precision the complaints on here re Redknapp . Of course there will be posters questioning the veracity of this report ....but with the evidence of our eyes from what we see on the pitch there looks to be some truth....'no practising of free kicks' Ring any bells ?

Anyway the one positive is that the Ade 'bustup' is denied again .
 

yido_number1

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Regardless of any one falling out with Redknapp the players on the pitch need to up their game now...
 

Riandor

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All hail Rafa... !
Uh Vdv that is, not the fat waiter. I liked HR, but I have always liked VdV more, ever since he joined he has been my favourite player, so if he is happy at Spurs despite all this, then that's music to my ears. Get a winning manager in and let's build the team around this guy.

(oh and still reading Page 5 of this thread...)
 

Riandor

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I agree with Bomber though to an extent that it is a shit excuse as players shouldn't need to be motivated to finish realistically as high as third in the league and to qualify automatically for the pinnacle of club football, the Champions League.

Time will tell whether Harry has lost the dressing room or not but fact is the players should be performing for the club and supporters first and foremost, not the manager!

I'm afraid that's just not the human psyche though...

Look at Chelsea and spot the difference. Look at us under Ramos and spot the difference. This shit matters.

It matters to me at work what my boss thinks and it matters to me at work to know where things are going. Any uncertainty is a distraction PERIOD.

You have the right manager and leader you bust a gut for the cause, because they matter more than the badge on your chest.

I have worked for companyies I loved, brands that were awesome, but if my manager was poor then it affected my performance at work, my motivation for giving 100%.

Money at the end of the day is irrelevant when you're talking above the basics (see Maslow for more details).

To succeed at the highest level you need the perfect conditions and we had them before the England fiasco and now we don't. Levy hoped it wouldn't matter as much as it has, but it was a gamble and one that isn't paying off.

Let#s hope it's not overly costly come the end.
 

Yiddo1982

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Thrash out a deal with the FA now, and let the players all chip in together for these last four games, with Hoddle overlooking things. Redknapp is the most defensive man in football - he won't admit a lot of this is his fault. We really don't have the time to be entertaining this with only a few weeks left of his tenure - the next month will define how we develop over the next couple of years, so we are best off cutting him out now and letting the players get on with playing for each other. "ALL FOR ONE....."
 

Spurvert

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From what I was told last night:

Dressing room hasn't been lost...yet
A few players have openly spoke to Harry about tiredness, tactics and preparation and have been told where to go, that Harry is still in charge and will call the shots
Lennon and Sandro can't wait for Harry to go

Nothing groundbreaking but thought I'd pass on.
 

gilzeantheking

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From what I was told last night:

Dressing room hasn't been lost...yet
A few players have openly spoke to Harry about tiredness, tactics and preparation and have been told where to go, that Harry is still in charge and will call the shots
Lennon and Sandro can't wait for Harry to go

Nothing groundbreaking but thought I'd pass on.

Seems Goal.com have heard the same thing

A cabal of players, including some of the most senior at the club, have communicated their frustrations via their agents over the last few weeks to chairman Daniel Levy during a run of just one win from nine Premier League matches.

Goal.com understands they have complained about Redknapp's tactics and match preparation, with one enduring theme being that training during the week is providing little preparation for the weekend fixtures.

It is believed that senior Spurs figures have been so alarmed by the players' feedback and a catastrophic run of results that they would consider replacing Redknapp as manager at the end of the season, even in the unlikely event that he does not quit Tottenham to become the new England boss.

The club has abandoned plans to try and persuade the 65-year-old to stay at White Hart Lane and will not offer him the four-year £16 million contract they had prepared.

Although Goal.com has learned that Redknapp is far from at loggerheads with his entire squad – reports of a bust-up with Emmanuel Adebayor are wide of the mark - a significant number of players have questioned events on the training ground.

"The players feel they are not going into matches well enough prepared," a Tottenham source told Goal.com. "For instance, they will practice all week in a 4-5-1 formation and then play 4-4-2 at the weekend. Or vice versa.

"They also feel there is not enough attention to detail and tactics. One common complaint is little or no practice defending set-pieces. There are question marks about the coaching and how much the players are improving through the input of the staff."

The dressing room unrest is not just restricted to players affiliated with one particular agent who has involvement with a significant proportion of the Tottenham squad.

Some of the Spurs players are feeling the effects of a 49-match campaign in which Redknapp has tended to pick his strongest available XI for every league and FA Cup game, rather than juggle his resources.

Gareth Bale, Luka Modric, Scott Parker, Kyle Walker, Brad Friedel, Benoit Assou-Ekotto, Younes Kaboul and Adebayor have each started at least 28 of Spurs' 34 league matches, an unusually high proportion even though the club's involvement in the Europa League ended before Christmas.

"Some of the players are exhausted and, as a result, their standards have dropped," the source added. "If you look at Manchester United, Sir Alex Ferguson meticulously manages the entire season and keeps freshening up the team while relying on a core of regulars. Harry just picks the best XI and lets them get on with it."

Redknapp's January dealings, in which he sold Roman Pavlyuchenko and allowed Steven Pienaar, Sebastien Bassong and Vedran Corluka to leave on loan - replacing them with injury-prone pair Louis Saha and Ryan Nelsen - has also raised eyebrows.

Senior Spurs figures are coming to the conclusion that a parting of the ways with Redknapp is desirable following a run of five defeats and three draws in nine league games since beating Newcastle 5-0 on February 11, when Tottenham were third in the table and 10 points clear of fourth-placed Arsenal.

The 5-1 FA Cup semi-final humiliation at the hands of Chelsea has also been a key factor in the change of thinking at the top of the club.

Spurs will not try and change Redknapp's mind if, as expected, the FA make an official approach to the club to secure him as the next England manager.

http://www.goal.com/...anager-redknapp
 

Spurvert

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Didn't see that.

There's no smoke without fire.

I just can't imagine things would be allowed to get that bad.
 

$hoguN

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Didn't see that.

There's no smoke without fire.

I just can't imagine things would be allowed to get that bad.

While you are winning you don't questions things like that though, it is when things start to fall to pieces that you start questioning these sort of decisions
 

pablo73

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Is anyone actually surprised that players are questioning lack of tactics and match preparation? I'd be amazed if they weren't
 

wooderz

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Us fans have been questioning it for months, so surely those on the pitch are aware of it too?
 

jimbo

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If there's truth to some of these rumours, and it remains a decent-sized if, then it would seem desirable to shift Harry to England now rather than wait.

At least for us. Would it be desirable for the FA I wonder. Do they feel antagonised enough by any negotiations we may have already had with them that they might enjoy a chuckle at our plight, or are they watching the figure they would have to pay in compensation steadily reduce?

It doesn't seem to matter really. Whilst it might behove the FA to have their man in place before the 10th May there isn't really a significant enough break between games for us to change horses - based on my opinion that we're not the speediest of negotiators.

It's a tough situation but I think we as fans are just going to have to do our best to get on with it and support the team from now until the end of the season. We have to try and lift them for one final effort to chase down that 4th spot. In the estimable words of football philosophy heavy-weights Metallica 'Nothing Else Matters'.
 
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