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tdk101

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Berahino's agent should just tell Peace what Dembele's agent from Fulham is doing. That he's going to run down his contract and sign with a foreign club. No tribunal fee. That will get Peace's attention.
 

SEANSPURS1975

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This is Pochettino's methods, he doesn't want just anyone in the team, he wants someone he can trust and someone who will buy into his ethos. This is the way it's going to be from now on and I'm afraid you're going to have to get used to it.

If you only have ONE striker in your squad you make sure you and your recruitment team go out and find one. It's their job right?
 

MkYid

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On the related stuff, oh Saido Plz?
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Off topic but that gif is fucking amazing
 

hakano

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This is Pochettino's methods, he doesn't want just anyone in the team, he wants someone he can trust and someone who will buy into his ethos. This is the way it's going to be from now on and I'm afraid you're going to have to get used to it.

I hope he does show some flex in his thinking. Some have a proven track record of being a problem such as Balotelli and Osvaldo for example and it would be easy to stay away from those but for all other players globally (and with recruitment in all walks of life) there will always be a question mark and there is no way you can get rid of that question mark - there are no guarantees that someone he trusts will fit in at Spurs with the current squad. I just don't buy there is no one out there that is affordable and can come in and do a job - if that is the case then there is a major flaw in the whole setup / process.
 

Shadydan

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I hope he does show some flex in his thinking. Some have a proven track record of being a problem such as Balotelli and Osvaldo for example and it would be easy to stay away from those but for all other players globally (and with recruitment in all walks of life) there will always be a question mark and there is no way you can get rid of that question mark - there are no guarantees that someone he trusts will fit in at Spurs with the current squad. I just don't buy there is no one out there that is affordable and can come in and do a job - if that is the case then there is a major flaw in the whole setup / process.

I think you just need to trust him, with what he's done at this club ever since he's come in I tend to believe he knows what he's doing.

If there was someone out there who we could realistically get who fits into the managers philosophy then he would be at Spurs by now, whether you buy that or not you have to accept it.
 

WalkerboyUK

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I hope he does show some flex in his thinking. Some have a proven track record of being a problem such as Balotelli and Osvaldo for example and it would be easy to stay away from those but for all other players globally (and with recruitment in all walks of life) there will always be a question mark and there is no way you can get rid of that question mark - there are no guarantees that someone he trusts will fit in at Spurs with the current squad. I just don't buy there is no one out there that is affordable and can come in and do a job - if that is the case then there is a major flaw in the whole setup / process.

Agree - but it's also about the price.
£20+ million is a lot to pay if it's not a player the manager doesn't really want/believe in.
Then you look for a cheaper option, who may not have the same abilities.
Swings and roundabouts.

Also - Poch has now said things in press conferences recently that Berahino will have read/heard, and that already may be putting the player himself off the idea of the move.
 

hakano

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What if they can't find one they can trust or someone who isn't up to the job?

I agree with this absolutely, don't buy for the sake of buying but there has to be someone out there and they need to do more to find that person.
 

Dazza86

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Hard to buy in January, bla! No player in the whole world fits the profile, bla bla!! The right players not available, bla!
We are currently in the race for the TITLE. A top signing or 2 would give us an unbelievabley great chance of actually winning the Premier league this season. We are short in some positions. I cannot comprehend why we wouldn't go for it. If now is not the time, when? We have the money and ultimately money talks. You make a bid that the selling club cannot refuse. It's not rocket science. Signing a striker should be the absolute bare minimum. If not Berahinho then someone else.
If we do nothing, which sadly is what I think we'll do, we will look at this as another opportunity missed. Who knows when we'll be in such a position again. Few days to go and hopefully we have players lined up. To dare is to do...

Personally, I'd like us to buy as well if we can but you're only looking at the potential upside of a transfer, whereas what I think Poch is teaching all us right now is that there are real potential negatives to making a signing as well.

I'm sure it's easy for the club to 'just buy someone' but that signing could also derail our season if we get it wrong.

Surely it's all about risk/reward, as with every purchase. The risk isn't just we continue as normal. The risk could very well be we spend too much money or buy the wrong player and it goes against us. Be that expectations go through the roof and disrupt our young squad, or we get a player who acts different or destroys the ethos we have.
 

yankspurs

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Uhh quick question. Why in the world is this thread still active? I'm really not sure how many times Poch needs to spell it out here. All his comments for the last 2+ weeks basically confirm that we are no longer interested in Berahino. ITK's have gone dead silent on him. Even Trix who was always giving us updates on him.
 

Hoopspur

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Uhh quick question. Why in the world is this thread still active? I'm really not sure how many times Poch needs to spell it out here. All his comments for the last 2+ weeks basically confirm that we are no longer interested in Berahino. ITK's have gone dead silent on him. Even Trix who was always giving us updates on him.

Err quick answer, because there's quite a few paper stories saying we're going in with a new bid over the next 48 (now 36!) hours... Probably more to this than the rest of the other crap stories out there?
 

Nigel Spinal

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Berahino's agent should just tell Peace what Dembele's agent from Fulham is doing. That he's going to run down his contract and sign with a foreign club. No tribunal fee. That will get Peace's attention.

English footballers aren't adventurous enough to move abroad. Everyone knows that
 

Lou3000

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If you only have ONE striker in your squad you make sure you and your recruitment team go out and find one. It's their job right?

Let's think of Pochettino's preferred attributes. 1. Young. 2. Fits our player profile (hard working, dynamic) 3. Is preferably already adapted to European football. We've already signed one foreign striker that was outside of that profile, N'Jie, and he's unfortunately injured.
 
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Berahino's agent should just tell Peace what Dembele's agent from Fulham is doing. That he's going to run down his contract and sign with a foreign club. No tribunal fee. That will get Peace's attention.

English footballers aren't adventurous enough to move abroad. Everyone knows that

Spot on. I remember when Zeki Fryers went to Standard Liege, got homesick after 6 months and had to come back to the UK.

I'm sure the same would happen if Berahino left WBA for free to go abroad... :sneaky:
 

DogsOfWar

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Uhh quick question. Why in the world is this thread still active? I'm really not sure how many times Poch needs to spell it out here. All his comments for the last 2+ weeks basically confirm that we are no longer interested in Berahino. ITK's have gone dead silent on him. Even Trix who was always giving us updates on him.

Part of what he said was they wouldn't pay £20 million+ unless it was a top class, proven, talent.
You could take that as we are not buying Berahino.
But, that could just mean we won't pay that price for Berahino, we will only go to £15-18 million.

I find it hard to believe we have just stopped wanting him (just because he's agitating for a move to come to us), especially considering he was the only player on our striker list in the summer.
Levy's MO is also for late window deals when there is less opportunity for a transfer 'auction' to push the price up.

I still think we'll put in a late offer for him hoping Peace will just cut his losses and give up on the over-inflated price he has previously wanted.
 

Pellshek

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What has changed since we bid for Berahino in the summer? Has Poch suddenly realised he might be a bad egg?

That does not at all sound like the way we conduct our transfer policy these days, nor the way Poch thinks about his squad. You don't bid £20m+ 5 months ago and then suddenly go all meh after a bit of tabloid and message board tittle-tattle.

Much more likely is that Berahino was carefully assessed for compatibility last year, and Poch knows his strengths and weaknesses very well, including possible disciplinary issues, and is happy to press ahead. Poch's statements about him in recent weeks are likely to have been about keeping Peace's price expectations in check/hinting we have other options, and not upsetting our own squad. I'd be pretty sure on balance that we're back in for him.

I'm also pretty sure all this bad attitude stuff is wildly overblown. Sounds like grumpy teenager more than anything. Besides, it's a whole different ball game at Spurs to West Brom. If you think about it, the idea a 22 year old is going to come in and derail the focus of 25 senior pros is kinda ridiculous. Much more likely Berahino will fully comprehend the opportunity he's being given and knuckle down.
 

dagraham

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What has changed since we bid for Berahino in the summer? Has Poch suddenly realised he might be a bad egg?

That does not at all sound like the way we conduct our transfer policy these days, nor the way Poch thinks about his squad. You don't bid £20m+ 5 months ago and then suddenly go all meh after a bit of tabloid and message board tittle-tattle.

Much more likely is that Berahino was carefully assessed for compatibility last year, and Poch knows his strengths and weaknesses very well, including possible disciplinary issues, and is happy to press ahead. Poch's statements about him in recent weeks are likely to have been about keeping Peace's price expectations in check/hinting we have other options, and not upsetting our own squad. I'd be pretty sure on balance that we're back in for him.

I'm also pretty sure all this bad attitude stuff is wildly overblown. Sounds like grumpy teenager more than anything. Besides, it's a whole different ball game at Spurs to West Brom. If you think about it, the idea a 22 year old is going to come in and derail the focus of 25 senior pros is kinda ridiculous. Much more likely Berahino will fully comprehend the opportunity he's being given and knuckle down.

Great post. Totally agree and think he'd do well with us. Don't think we'll be successful in a last minute bid for him though unfortunately.
 
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