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JUSTINSIGNAL

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Whatever way you want to dress it up, Sandro is still being pushed down the pecking order.

Also my point still remains. The problem is not us buying players such as Parker and Pienaar it's that Harry has a phobia about rotating in league matches. Therefore as we are seeing now certain players will always end up unhappy and angle for a move as they feel they will never get a chance. It happened with Hutton and Huddlestone previously and now Kranjcar and Bassong.

If Harry was good at rotating and freshening up the squad as Fergie and Wenger seem to be able to then it would be okay to stockpile players as they would all be certain of getting a good amount of game time.
 

spursandbarca

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rather have marc van bommell than parker. he is tough tackler, has won the lot(bundesliga,la liga,champions league). would be much cheaper and a better short term solution
 

Bus-Conductor

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Parker would be a very good signing.IMO..

He is a little tiger,and more importantly,when he gets it,he gives it to someone with the same colour shirt as his......unlike wilson.

How anyone would doubt him is beyond me....... we need 3 players,Parker,a top CF and a top RB....PLEASE!

unload keane,bentley,pav...and wilson(unless he is willing to stay as cover)

For the record, Palacios and Parker have identical pass completion rates - 85% this season. Over the last three it's also almost identical Palacios 83%, Parker 84%.

Parker passes at a rate of 1.97 MPP, Palacios 2.43 MPP. Parker (successful) tackles 28 MPT, Palacios 30 MPT.

Parker also weighs in with a much better goals/assists rate.



A Parker/Jenas combination would give us two very dynamic CM's who both can tackle, both get goals and assists and get up/down and around the pitch really well.

Whilst it's clear that your "Parker gives the ball away less than Palacios" statement is factually wrong, those stats make interesting reading. I guess you have to balance out the fact that Parker is more likely to make more tackles as playing for West Ham he's been under more pressure for more of the time, and also that his age means his performance level is only ever goiung to get worse not better, whereas Palacios can go the other way, but combined with his ability to get forward and contribute offensively I wouldn't be pissing myself if we sign him.
 

Bus-Conductor

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rather have marc van bommell than parker. he is tough tackler, has won the lot(bundesliga,la liga,champions league). would be much cheaper and a better short term solution

I understand what you are saying, but the premiership is a fast league for a 33 yo, who's never exactly been super quick.

I'd rather we went after Cambiaso.
 

spursandbarca

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cambiaso wont leave inter though. van bomell has fell out with van gaal apparently and they wont offer him a new contract. hed cost 1 million euros max
 

spursandbarca

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we need winners and experience. last night again proved that much. a side with 4 or 5 been there and done that players would have strolled it last night
 

brett.spurs

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I'm all for winners with experience if they're better than the player they're replacing in the first team. Rafael Van Der Vaart is a winner with experience, Scott Parker is not.
 

spursandbarca

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scott parker hasnt won toss.

he is an england regular.

has played for 4 clubs already.

van bommell is all the things parker is not
 

Zimmy

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Van Bommel is slower than Hudd these days and he aint gonna get any quicker.

The arguments against signing Parker are cut from a similar cloth as the arguments against Harry being a good manager.

Good old fashioned English grit and know-how is never going appeal to some people, you need a fancy sounding foreign name and a suave hairstyle or else you just aint good enough.
 

spursandbarca

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Van Bommel is slower than Hudd these days and he aint gonna get any quicker.

The arguments against signing Parker are cut from a similar cloth as the arguments against Harry being a good manager.

Good old fashioned English grit and know-how is never going appeal to some people, you need a fancy sounding foreign name and a suave hairstyle or else you just aint good enough.


hes a winner, gives 100%, sometimes is too enthuastic. he has played and won for barcelona and bayern. parker played for charlton and newcastle. tin pot clubs in comparision. hes nowhere near an england shirt either.


harry needs to stop. think and say would this player(x signing) get in the chelsea, man utd or arsenil first 11 because thats who we are competing with
 

whatsappnin

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I spoke with Harry this evening and he mentioned nothing about Parker or Woodgate!

He's not Harry Redknapp though, just some fella down the booza called Harry.
 

jimtheyid

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Spoke to Harry Friday and although it's old hat in regards of the press doing the story, I can confirm Scott Parker will definitely sign for Spurs. I think we might let them loan a player or two from us although that has no bearing on the deal. If woodgate gets fit, it might be him that turns up at upton parkistan.

I find this offensive.
 

AngerManagement

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hes a winner, gives 100%, sometimes is too enthuastic. he has played and won for barcelona and bayern. parker played for charlton and newcastle. tin pot clubs in comparision. hes nowhere near an england shirt either.


harry needs to stop. think and say would this player(x signing) get in the chelsea, man utd or arsenil first 11 because thats who we are competing with


I know what you are trying to say

BUT it's not as simplistic as looking at an indivdual player and assessing whether or not he is good enough to play in our rivals teams.

Football is a team game and we need to buy the right players for US, to complete OUR puzzle. If it was just about having the best 11 individuals then Real Madrid would have won everything insight during the days of Zidane and the rest of the Galacticos.

So what Harry and our scouts need to assess is how a potential signing will fit into our team or squad, how he would complement and improve what we already have not waste type worrying about if the player could dislodge Rooney or Drogba.
 

StartingPrice

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I know what you are trying to say

BUT it's not as simplistic as looking at an indivdual player and assessing whether or not he is good enough to play in our rivals teams.

Football is a team game and we need to buy the right players for US, to complete OUR puzzle. If it was just about having the best 11 individuals then Real Madrid would have won everything insight during the days of Zidane and the rest of the Galacticos.

So what Harry and our scouts need to assess is how a potential signing will fit into our team or squad, how he would complement and improve what we already have not waste type worrying about if the player could dislodge Rooney or Drogba.

THIS.

Why is it, no matter how many times, and how clearly, this is stated, so many football fans just do not understand it:shrug:
 

FromTheLane

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THIS.

Why is it, no matter how many times, and how clearly, this is stated, so many football fans just do not understand it:shrug:

So so true. I think this misunderstanding can only come from people not having ever played any form of team game to any kind of standard. Whatever level a team is playing at, exactly the same principles and underlying ingredients are required in order for it to function and be successful. It goes without saying that you need different types of person in order to give the team the necessary dosage of leadership and passion; in the same way that that tough tackling, beer drinking and loutish lad was integral to the team spirit of your school team and constantly boosted morale by cracking jokes, a player with charisma who inspires people and lifts them is essential, whether this is through their will to win, bubbly nature, or sheer force of example. Note Chelsea's decline in recent weeks in the absence of Lampard and Terry as case in point.

It is obvious that there we still lack a vocal leader aside from Dawson, and especially in the middle of the pitch: Palacios, Huddlestone and Modric, for all their footballing quality, are hardly Churchillian types, and this shows at times when games are in the balance and organisation and initiative need to be taken but they are not.

This is why we need Parker specifically as opposed to another gifted foreign player with low influence.
 

mike_l

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I'd have to question Scott Parker's desire to join us though, given that he signs a new contract at West Ham every 6 months, and has passed up the opportunity to join us in favour of Newcastle and West Ham for his last 2 transfers.

I wouldn't be surprised to see himlinked with us all Jan, with frenzied speculation on the final day, culminating in a new bumper contract at WHam, to show the fans his "undoubted commitment to their cause" and "assure the fans of the clubs ambition".
 
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