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$hoguN

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Neither Parker nor Pienaar improve the 1st team, they barely even improve the squad, just spending(wasting) money for the sake of it.

Thats a vast over statement, Parker has performed consistantly for the last two years at a shit club, and would provide us with some more grit in the centre of the park while Palacios is struggling to regain his best form. Pienaar would offer us pace either to cover for the absence of Lennon or Bale or too bring on as a game changing substitute. They both would add more quality to our squad despite neither probably being good enough to displace one of first choice players
 

Mr Pink

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Neither Parker nor Pienaar improve the 1st team, they barely even improve the squad, just spending(wasting) money for the sake of it.

Harry has done that all along hasn't he? Just wasted money and spending for the sake of it?

Definite improvements to our squad given that Bentley and Kranjcar dont really get any games. You think Harry is going to replace squad positions with more players who he isn't going to play? - that would be a waste of time and Harry hasn't got us fourth by being that stupid.

He's not comfortable playing the aforementioned - he wants a different type of a player so he can use his squad more effectively. Pienaar makes total sense to me, its his versatility to cover right across midfield that will see him get plenty of games and Harry can make changes more often without weakening us too much.

Parker and Pienaar are real team players and good players at that. Parker has been nothing short of a revelation for the Pikeys...begrudgingly I always admired his never say die attitude.
 

brett.spurs

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Yeah so you think Sandro is going to be happy twiddling his thumbs for 3 or 4 years while Parker is here? He'd be going the same way as Gio unfortunately.
 

FromTheLane

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Yeah so you think Sandro is going to be happy twiddling his thumbs for 3 or 4 years while Parker is here? He'd be going the same way as Gio unfortunately.

Sigh. Sandro is a difficult kettle of fish from Gio, he's a professional footballer as opposed to being simply someone who is paid to very occasionally play football.

Going to be huge for us, but that doesn't mean he is ready to just be cavalierly thrown in at this moment in time-it is obvious to anyone that we lack a grab the game by the scruff of the neck leader in the middle of the park.
 

brett.spurs

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So when exactly is Sandro going to play ahead of Modric, Huddlestone, Jenas, Palacios and Parker? I know we're good for a few injuries but even in our case that'd be pushing it, Sandro will get no more chances than Gio has had, will be a waste of massive potential, a 21yr old Brazilian international being marginalised because we want to bring in an average 30yr old journeyman who after a decade of Premier League football has only just started to look out of place at a beyond terrible West Ham side, well I'm convinced.

I was slated for being against Joe Cole signing and I'll be slated again here. Hopefully Parker will turn us down(AGAIN) because he can make an extra 5k at Villa or somewhere.
 

FromTheLane

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So when exactly is Sandro going to play ahead of Modric, Huddlestone, Jenas, Palacios and Parker? I know we're good for a few injuries but even in our case that'd be pushing it, Sandro will get no more chances than Gio has had, will be a waste of massive potential, a 21yr old Brazilian international being marginalised because we want to bring in an average 30yr old journeyman who after a decade of Premier League football has only just started to look out of place at a beyond terrible West Ham side, well I'm convinced.

I was slated for being against Joe Cole signing and I'll be slated again here. Hopefully Parker will turn us down(AGAIN) because he can make an extra 5k at Villa or somewhere.

Are we a football club trying to win things or a socialist sports charity?
 

Misfit

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It is indeed interesting about Sandro. Let's say Parker is brought in, unless 2 of Wilson, Jenas and O'Hara say tatty bye bye in the summer then do we just accept he's an Ok player but not what we thought? Because, sure, I can understand the first yr here is a settling in period etc - different culture and all the usual guff. But if his second full season doesn't see him start to push for a starting spot more regularly against the likes of Parker (not saying a sure starter but pushing for regular games) then really - did we sign a dud?

There's no fucking way Parker is as good as some are making out. He's gone from Chelsea to Noughtcastle to Spam for a reason.
 

Boots22

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Ouch. Thats a pretty fatal oversight by myself there. Naturally I would play Van Der Vaart ahead of Lennon in the same sort of role that Silva plays for City (who, incidentally, have been awesome in recent weeks and are really getting it together-tactically, Mancini is brilliant). Then we would really be Barca-lite, and would have an absolute shit load of creativity in midfield.

On Pienaar, obviously we only know we are interested in him in as much as we know we are interested in any player (i.e. we don't really, and can only specuate based on a reasonable estimation of what broadly we need allied to what we read in the papers). But he is a top top player, no question about it. Cahill in my opinion is massively over-rated because he scores so many headers, while we don't realistically need Rodwell when we have Huddlestone and he would be unattainable in any case. Pienaar in my opinion is the closest thing that exists to Iniesta that exists in the Premier League and one of the few who can rival Modric for technical ability and drop of the shoulder brilliance.

Furthermore, he is certainly an upgrade on Kranjcar due to his greater workrate (he covers a huge amount of ground and is always pressing and harrying), mobility, team-ethic, versatility and consistency-the only thing we would be missing from Niko really is his goal threat, and thats where the burden obviously falls on the striker/ Van Der Vaart to make up the shortfall.

:clap: Top post mate...Pienaar is a quality quality player, I cant believe people on here are against signing him. Evertything that Everton do well goes through him and Baines down their left hand side, them 2 have a great little partnership. I think both he and Parker would improve the squad massively
 

FromTheLane

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Articles from 2 and 7 years ago, yes, egg well and truly on my face here.

Well your point was that such is Parker's mediocrity, no top club with money has ever held anything even approaching an interest in his services. Which could not be more wrong, as shown by the articles. Their date is wholly irrelevant.
 

brett.spurs

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I said nothing about "ever"

You said we're a club loking to win things, well so are Arsenal/Chelsea/Utd/City, but do you see them clamering over eachother other to sign Scott Parker? I'm going to hazard a guess and say no.

Erm the dates of the articles you supplied are completely irrelevant, just going to stop this now if you actually believe that, we wanted to spunk silly money on Downing 5 years ago, does that mean we should do it now?

As misfit has said; Chelsea -> Newcastle -> West Ham, that not tell you something? Didn't get a look in at Chelsea, did nothing of note at Newcastle and only now at West Ham is he starting to "stand out"
 

jamesc0le

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fuck me if we can bring in parker and pienaar and offload the likes of jenas/keane/bentley that would represent massive f progress. sandro and ohara can go on loan but they should be kept on the wage bill as they should go onto become important players for us in the future.
 

tooey

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I said nothing about "ever"

You said we're a club loking to win things, well so are Arsenal/Chelsea/Utd/City, but do you see them clamering over eachother other to sign Scott Parker? I'm going to hazard a guess and say no.

Erm the dates of the articles you supplied are completely irrelevant, just going to stop this now if you actually believe that, we wanted to spunk silly money on Downing 5 years ago, does that mean we should do it now?

As misfit has said; Chelsea -> Newcastle -> West Ham, that not tell you something? Didn't get a look in at Chelsea, did nothing of note at Newcastle and only now at West Ham is he starting to "stand out"


Top post. A lot of people are buying into the hype. He has downgraded again and again and again. And now he is at a small club filled with shite he looks good. Anybody remember wayne routledge......
 
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