Spurs squad demanding heart screenings

[bjholmem]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...rice-Muamba-collapse-during-FA-Cup-clash.html

This suggests that this type of screening is not part of the regular routine for the players, contrary to what was suggested in the Stoke Postponement thread. I have also heard that some of the conditions that can make the heart more vulnerable to cardiac arrest are difficult to spot (this was the case with Norwegian footballer Carl Erik Torp, who collapsed with cardiac arrest during a Norwegian Premier League game in the autumn of 2011) and that a very thorough testing procedure is required to spot these very rare conditions.

 

[jimbo]

It's understandable that they would want to be checked out. I hope that it would give them some piece of mind but I'm not convinced it will.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...rice-Muamba-collapse-during-FA-Cup-clash.html

This suggests that this type of screening is not part of the regular routine for the players, contrary to what was suggested in the Stoke Postponement thread. I have also heard that some of the conditions that can make the heart more vulnerable to cardiac arrest are difficult to spot (this was the case with Norwegian footballer Carl Erik Torp, who collapsed with cardiac arrest during a Norwegian Premier League game in the autumn of 2011) and that a very thorough testing procedure is required to spot these very rare conditions.

I'm not sure how you drew that conculsion :shrug:

The article states: Sharma said he was already due to test "one or two players" at Tottenham today, but added that now "the players have all demanded cardiac screening."

So if he was due to perform tests on one or two players wouldn't that actually confirm the suggestion that such testing is routine? I doubt its the kind of testing that's done to all of them in one go anyway, a few here and a few there, as the dates for their retests come up, they would get tested.

IMO whats happened here is that after the events of the other night the players are wanting some sort of reassurance by having the test now, sooner rather than later.

That's how it looks to me anyway :shrug:

 

[kaz Hirai]

wonder if our players will want to over work themselves now, it would certainly be on the back of my mind. maybe not chase down everything...you know just in case.

hopefully they are more proffesional and less paranoid than me!

 

[mil1lion]

Cardiac screening is something they have right in Italy. Here's a little piece showing 89% reduction in sudden cardian arrests in young athletes (under the age of 35). Professional sportsmen and women are to undergo tests anually.

http://www.johnsom.com/johnsomauroo/Athletic_Cardiac_Screening.html

This icident is a true eye opener, not just for footballers but sports men and women a whole. I think it's common to think that athletes are all in supreme shape and I think that's one of the reasons why it was sucha shock to see this happen to Muamba. However, heart problems can really affect just about anyone.

Although this is a very rare incident, it isn't the only time this has happened. Obvious comparisons have been drawn to the Marc-Vivien Foe tragedy. There was also the loss of Daniel Jarque more recently. Not to mention the young Sevilla player Antonio Puerta who had multiple cardiac arrests and brain damage which lead to his death.

Ruben De La Red also had heart problems but thankfully was able to recover. Although he's no longer a player but instead a coach. Lilian Thuram also was forced into retirement with a rare heart disorder.

I can certainly imagine a lot of players are thinking about taking these tests now, especially in England.

 

[Misfit]

Not to mention Cassano's heart probs either.

 

[wooderz]

As good intentioned as the Italian screening is, many people have been banned from competing because there is a possibility they may have something of a defect...so while it could be a step in the right direction, it's definitely not perfect

 

[gilzeantheking]

Interesting article from the BBC from a Cardiologist. (He is the one who does the screening at Spurs)

It would seem that the screening is only accurate at the time it is actually done.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-17429446

 

[markiespurs]

I can fully understand the players wanting the re assurance of a heart screening in the wake of Saturdays tragic events.

However, everyone needs to realise that heart screenings are not 100% accurate and are certainly no gurantee that what happened to FM won't happen again.

As callous as it might sound, sometimes shit just happens, no matter how many tests and screenings are done.

 

[markiespurs]

Interesting article from the BBC from a Cardiologist. (He is the one who does the screening at Spurs)

It would seem that the screening is only accurate at the time it is actually done.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-17429446

Yeah, from what i've read and seen on the telly, it's a bit like an MOT in that it becomes virtually useless as soon as the test is finnished.

 

[lillywhites61]

At the very least it may put some of the players minds at ease. They will have it all explained to them I am sure, and possible it will become more frequent, I mean the money these guys earn they could go do it privately I am sure if they really wanted to as often as they like.

But like some above have said, sometimes you cannot foresee everything and stuff happens tht you cannot stop.

 

[Real_madyidd]

Interesting article from the BBC from a Cardiologist. (He is the one who does the screening at Spurs)

It would seem that the screening is only accurate at the time it is actually done.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-17429446

Isn't that obvious? Mwamba was obviously in good health in the past, he has have enough medicals.

 

[striebs]

Isn't that obvious? Mwamba was obviously in good health in the past, he has have enough medicals.

Some people with a predisposition to arhythmias are asymptomatic and the even tests such as ECG , cardiac echo , x-ray do not detect a problem .

I've got a defibrilator implanted in my chest to hopefully shock my heart back into a normal rhythm if a life threatening arhythmia does not stop within a few seconds . My arhythmia's are due to a heart muscle condition known as dilated cardiomyopathy .

There is no excuse for not at least carrying out an ECG on athletes at all levels at least once a year or fitting them with a holter monitor to record their heart beat over 24 hours . I'm really surprised this isn't done at all levels of sport in the UK .

Parents get your kids checked ! The C.R.Y. charity has information about this on their website .

Not sure what should happen if an adult player is diagnosed as being predisposed to arhythmias . Doubt clubs would want to sign them . Not sure whether it is right to take the nanny state approach of blanket banning an adult from doing what they love if there predisposition is not quantifiable .

That Erik Edman incident turned out outwardly OK mercifully but whenever I've seen him on TV since he seems like his character was changed by that sickening clash of heads .


God be with you Fabrice .

 

[Dan Yeats]

I can understand the reaction, but it doesn't actually make much sense. They're just as likely to drop dead from a brain aneurysm (which can also go undiagnosed, sometimes for a lifetime), or any number of other things. It's not practical or sensible to screen people for everything possible. For one thing, many of these diagnostic tests are 'bad' for you in themselves, and shouldn't be performed unless necessary. In addition, they can pick up minor things that are highly unlikely to ever cause any real problems, but once spotted will cause the patient unnecessary anxiety and result in them receiving unnecessary surgery - dangerous in itself. The breast screening program is an example of something that's much criticised by a lot of medics for this very reason.

 

[striebs]

Interesting article from the BBC from a Cardiologist. (He is the one who does the screening at Spurs)

It would seem that the screening is only accurate at the time it is actually done.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-17429446

Gilzeantheking ,

Because the heart muscle has a teriffic supply of blood it can grow very in a matter of days . Thus it can become atrophied and thickenned like poor Daniel Yorath's heart (hypertopic cardiomyopathy) .

I don't know what the reliability of an ECG test is at spotting electrical signals which make someone predisposed to arrythmias but have been told by cardiologists that it isn't 100% .

 

[Damian99]

wonder if our players will want to over work themselves now, it would certainly be on the back of my mind. maybe not chase down everything...you know just in case.

Some of them don't bother anyway.

 

[whatsappnin]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001243/

This is the beast, I know because my mrs has this condition. It was spotted when at 23 she was feeling anxious and getting anxiety attacks quite often. It was a simple test that confirmed her heart disease and simply listening to her heart beat. There was a murmer present, an abnormal heart beat. She takes bisoprolol now (10mg) daily and thank god is pretty fit and healthy.

 

[cabinfever]

wonder if our players will want to over work themselves now, it would certainly be on the back of my mind. maybe not chase down everything...you know just in case.

hopefully they are more professional and less paranoid than me!

They don't have to be "chasing back".
My 18 year old son died in his sleep, it can happen any time.

 

[whatsappnin]

They don't have to be "chasing back".
My 18 year old son died in his sleep, it can happen any time.

Im very very sorry to hear that mate.