Match Threads Spurs vs Liverpool - Match Day 7 - 30th Sept KO 5:30pm

[Misfit]

So they realised the mistake almost immediately but by that point the game has already restarted?

Nothing to see here. Just a mistake. Time to move on.

Yup. Change the rules to allow them to go back within a reasonable timeframe, regardless whether the game has restarted or not etc and problem solved.

And thank goodness we don't play Pool again for months. Their next few opponents will likely get rinsed in terms getting decisions.

 

[Spurs4CL]

I was expecting a lot more panic and swearing when they realised how big a a F**k UP had just occurred. They almost sound like there not fussed at all

Couldn't disagree more tbh. The guy who fucked up must have been crawling up his own arse with anxiety from the mistake he made , hence why he didn't say too much.

 

[oobaties]

I was expecting a lot more panic and swearing when they realised how big a a F**k UP had just occurred. They almost sound like there not fussed at all

I’d imagine the massive wave of nausea and the sudden urge to soil himself probably rendered him speechless.

 

[Misfit]

if you let a monkey hit the keys of a typewriter at random an infinite amount of times, eventually the monkey will type out VAR.

 

[SuperLuka]

if you let a monkey hit the keys of a typewriter at random an infinite amount of times, eventually the monkey will type out VAR.

And get the job it would seem

 

[max cady]

Hopefully this puts it to bed. It clearly a genuine mistake, yes a bad one but was not deliberate and hopefully protocol will now be put in place that it won't.happen again.

I think the scousers were expecting some kinda of deliberate drawing of the lines wrong or some other kinda of cover up.

They just have to suck it up.

However next week any foul on pool player anywhere on the pitch will result in a penalty to liverpool.

Several red cards will be issued to the opposition also

 

[GuytheGorilla]

Yup. Change the rules to allow them to go back within a reasonable timeframe, regardless whether the game has restarted or not etc and problem solved.

And thank goodness we don't play Pool again for months. Their next few opponents will likely get rinsed in terms getting decisions.

Only problem with that is say for example Spurs went straight up the other end and scored from the free kick as VAR are screaming "Stop the fucking game" in the Refs ear. What happens then? Chalk off the Spurs goal, allow both even though the restart wasn't a kick off? Nope, for me the laws are right, they need to get the protocol sorted so the correct decision has been made before the restart. Or get rid of VAR all together.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

if you let a monkey hit the keys of a typewriter at random an infinite amount of times, eventually the monkey will type out VAR.

Or start posting on SC

 

[Misfit]

Or start posting on SC

A monkey would be several evolutionary rungs up in my case.

 

[Metalhead]

Yup. Change the rules to allow them to go back within a reasonable timeframe, regardless whether the game has restarted or not etc and problem solved.

And thank goodness we don't play Pool again for months. Their next few opponents will likely get rinsed in terms getting decisions.

They aren't playing arsenal are they? Just asking for a friend.

 

[Tiberius Gracchus]

That's wrong that, Daz

 

[riggi]

 

[JW72]

Only problem with that is say for example Spurs went straight up the other end and scored from the free kick as VAR are screaming "Stop the fucking game" in the Refs ear. What happens then? Chalk off the Spurs goal, allow both even though the restart wasn't a kick off? Nope, for me the laws are right, they need to get the protocol sorted so the correct decision has been made before the restart. Or get rid of VAR all together.

That’s exactly the problem with the ‘recall’ idea and as others have accurately pointed out it’s really not needed at all if there’s simple guidance on communication. In this case the whole fiasco is caused by the VAR blurting out “check complete” a millisecond after the lines are drawn.

 

[XIIIMPC]

Only problem with that is say for example Spurs went straight up the other end and scored from the free kick as VAR are screaming "Stop the fucking game" in the Refs ear. What happens then? Chalk off the Spurs goal, allow both even though the restart wasn't a kick off? Nope, for me the laws are right, they need to get the protocol sorted so the correct decision has been made before the restart. Or get rid of VAR all together.

You chalk off the Spurs goal because we'd have scored from a free kick we shouldn't have had.

In fairness I'm not sure for how long they should be able to pull play back but the example here has to be short enough.

Scoring is the only thing in football that ultimately matters - Liverpool scoring one legitimately has to take precedence. As soon as they said "delay" or whatever it should have stopped. "Can't do anything" guy felt bound by the rules obviously, but they're bad rules.

 

[XIIIMPC]

Oh, but with all that said:

10-man Liverpool, with the game at 0-0, had a goal wrongly disallowed for offside. It would still have been given offside without VAR.

Before VAR this sort of thing happened all the time. There's two separate issues here. "Liverpool lost a goal to bad officiating", which is not at all unusual both pre and post-VAR, and "VAR screwed up big time and is not being particularly well-handled." There's a lot of conflating of the two I think. The degree of the incompetence needed to make a bad decision doesn't change the fact that is ultimately one bad offside decision. One.

VAR should be looked at, but the idea that this has cost Liverpool the title or any insane rants that overestimate the impact of one incorrectly disallowed goal (which happens all the time) are people getting badly carried away.

 

[tototoner]

Why is stuff like this only released for Liverpool, what is so special about them?

 

[Yid-ol]

Why is stuff like this only released for Liverpool, what is so special about them?

They asked for it. Doubt anyone else has asked before.

 

[XIIIMPC]

Replay operator knew immediately. Who is he?

 

[mil1lion]

They asked for it. Doubt anyone else has asked before.

Exactly, others would know they've made a mistake and move on. I'm really not sure what Liverpool were expecting from the audio. Like what was their best possible outcome from it and what could they possibly get out of it? This is just Liverpool doing Liverpool things. Like they think after 17 games unbeaten there was this sudden decision to screw them at the 18th.

 

[Mr Pink]

Replay operator knew immediately. Who is he?

I think there's always two of them reviewing footage in the VAR room