Standing still while rivals improve

[Hercules]

I must say thus far Janssen has looked average.

I would go easy on him. Everybody should know I was against his signing for the reasons we are seeing. He is here now so I will cut him some slack for now.

 

[SpursDave88]

I'm kind of confused by our transfer policy at the moment...we signed needed back ups for Kane and Dier in Janssen and Wanyama. But suddenly half our squad have seemingly disappeared...Mason, Bentaleb, Carroll, Chadli, Son, Njie.

We are going to leave our squad paper thin at this rate. Not entirely sure I understand what the plan is here? Unless we have deals in place for some big names.

Eriksen was awful yesterday, and Son still didn't manage to get on the pitch.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Whilst I'd agree that it will be a monumental moment in the clubs history when the stadium is complete, it won't be that, that takes us to "the next level". Maybe 10 years ago. Gate receipts by all accounts aren't where the majority of cash flow in brought in by nowadays.

Arsenal have shown that having a new stadium doesn't necessarily mean that's the case.

Aren't Arseanal's gate receipts top of the list when it comes to money amassed by clubs capacity earnings? They've had money to burn for a while now, but Master Splinter simply refuses to spend it.

Their stadium has resulted in them being the 7th richest club in the world, with their 2014/15 revenue (€435.5mil) being some €178mil more than our own revenue (€257.5mil). They (Arseanal) earned almost £30mil more than Chelsea in match day revenue alone, topping the £100mil mark, with United making £86,7 mil from game days. To put that into context, Chelsea are currently planning to redevelop Stamford Bridge in order to compete with everyone else, with Liverpool (£57.1m from match days) following suit and Tottenham (£41.2m) building a new home next to their current ground.

Manchester City's £173.8m of commercial revenue sees them trump Arsenal on the money list, despite earning just £43.4m from match days......

I think it's really not unreasonable to suggest that a new/bigger stadium significantly increase both cash flow & the ability to pay wages to attract star players. Again, Arseanal's wage bill somewhat backs that up. Last season, Chelsea paid £215.6mil on salaries, Man Utd payed a total of £203mil, Man City paid £193.8mil with Arseanal not at all far behind them, with a wage bill of £192mil. Taking into account that 2 of those 3 clubs are funded by crazy amounts of oil money, whilst United are just an absolute Behemoth of a club, bringing in over 70,000 supporters every home game. It's surely yet another demonstration as to how having a bigger stadium can help to compete with bigger/richer clubs?

If you put our players salaries in there as a comparison, a figure of £110.5mil, I think it's not at all unfeasible to suggest/believe that our new stadium can/will be a real game changer when it comes to financial packages we will be able to offer to players we currently have little to no hope of signing, because we just get blown out of the water at the moment.

 

[Maske2g]

So you admit that there has been successful players from the Eredivisie yet you're wiling to cast judgement on a player after 3 matches and say he's turd..right

Your arguments are all over the place, do you genuinely have a point or are you just ranting?

My arguements are all pointing to the same point. Weve had the piss taken out of us again, by not properly preparing for a season, again.

When did I say VJ is Turd? Can you read? Did you jumble the words of the sentence up and make a new one? That league is trd. Their national team is turd. That is indisputable.

Yes, some players have come good from the Dutch league after scoring mountains of goals. 50% of them mentioned, hence the term, a gamble. Its literally like signing Ross McCormack for tearing up the championship.

You look at the rest of the great summer signings who have real winning pedigree

Zlat, we wont pay.

Mhkytarian. We wont pay.

Kante. We will take Wanyama please. Cheap at half the price.

batshuai, no thanks I will got to Chelsea they pay better

Even Mane, I would take him over Zaha all day long. No interest from us was there?

Bollasie goes for 30 and we offer 12 for Zaha What do we think this is? 2005?

I've seen the GKN dude in action. He is a sprinter in football boots. Has a touch like Peter Sutcliffe.

They are taking the piss!!

 

[Maske2g]

Why do you support Spurs?

Winning the league is odds against with the financial disparity but saying that good management team work and belief can negate this... So never say never.

You know what I asked myself that same thing last year and took a year out of going. I guess there is a blind hope that Levy might have to sell due to the rest of his investments going tits up and he has to sell thw clubs to someone with a pair of bollocks. I feel like I love spurs but Im supporting Enic.

 

[BSJ93]

I understand that Poch wants a small young squad, where players are dynamic in that they can play in numerous positions but yesterday's bench was a little worrying.

I love Poch and adore the fact that he puts his faith in our academy players, but I really hope that he's including them into the squad and team because he genuinely feels that they'll be able to push the team to the next level and not only because he knows that it'll win him brownie points.

We have a great academy but it's a very delicate balancing act between finding the right player that can improve our squad overall (within a limited budget) and going out and finding a player which he trusts in the market which our 'rivals' aren't looking at too.

 

[double0]

You know what I asked myself that same thing last year and took a year out of going. I guess there is a blind hope that Levy might have to sell due to the rest of his investments going tits up and he has to sell thw clubs to someone with a pair of bollocks. I feel like I love spurs but Im supporting Enic.

Do you not feel we've steadily progressed within our budget/perimeters? We have improved our training facilities, we're building a new 61k stadium we have CL and the youngest squad in the EPL.

There's a lot to be proud of I think. It's not all about how much you spend.

 

[double0]

I understand that Poch wants a small young squad, where players are dynamic in that they can play in numerous positions but yesterday's bench was a little worrying.

I love Poch and adore the fact that he puts his faith in our academy players, but I really hope that he's including them into the squad and team because he genuinely feels that they'll be able to push the team to the next level and not only because he knows that it'll win him brownie points.

We have a great academy but it's a very delicate balancing act between finding the right player that can improve our squad overall (within a limited budget) and going out and finding a player which he trusts in the market which our 'rivals' aren't looking at too.

Seriously what was worrying about our bench?

 

[SpursDave88]

Seriously what was worrying about our bench?

It was so poor that Eriksen managed to play most of the match despite putting in a shocking performance. That we didn't seem to have anyone to come on and turn the game in our favour...

 

[DIEHARD]

I'm kind on confused by our transfer policy at the moment...we signed needed back ups for Kane and Dier in Janssen and Wanyama. But suddenly half our squad have seemingly disappeared...Mason, Bentaleb, Carroll, Chadli, Son, Njie.

We are going to leave our squad paper thin at this rate. Not entirely sure I understand what the plan is here? Unless we have deals in place for some big names.

Eriksen was awful yesterday, and Son still didn't manage to get on the pitch.

I was about to come on here and post something similarly now that i read Son's rumours.

Its quite disconcerting to read that mason, chadli, son, bentaleb are going/gone and in all honesty we already have a squad that barring the first 11 to 14 we lack experience.

As mentioned previously there is such a vast difference between developing them and having to rely on them to step in and win us games.

As it stands if we get rid of those aforementioned in other threads and rumours etc we will be needing about three or four players in the next three days.

 

[Spurger King]

Seriously what was worrying about our bench?

It was pretty mediocre.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

We haven't been standing still. We've already brought in 2 to strengthen our weak spots and a third is as good as done.
Liverpool, Man U and Chelsea have bought far more players and expensive players because a) they can and b) because frankly they were all utter shite last season.
We were not so don't need wholesale changes.
We were missing our world class goalkeeper and Dembele who bosses the midfield. Any team will not be as good with those missing.
Add to that Walker not being fit and going off.
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Off topic, so I'm sorry but, to be fair, had Walker not gone off, I highly doubt we'd have had the (necessary) excellent cross that Dier provided for the goal on Satuday. We lost Walker's pace down the right, no doubt about it, but we gained an end result as a direct result of Walker having to be withdrawn.

Speaking of which, any news on the injury?

 

[dontcallme]

Off topic, so I'm sorry but, to be fair, had Walker not gone off, I highly doubt we'd have had the (necessary) excellent cross that Dier provided for the goal on Satuday. We lost Walker's pace down the right, no doubt about it, but we gained an end result as a direct result of Walker having to be withdrawn.

Speaking of which, any news on the injury?

I thought it was reported that he was ill rather than injured like first thought

 

[slartibartfast]

Bench is going to look weaker when your missing your keeper, rb and cm. The bench was on the pitch.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

I thought it was reported that he was ill rather than injured like first thought

Cheers for that. I never knew anything about it, and heard the commentators say "Walker is struggling & has a problem", so just assumed it was an injury. Thanks again

 

[Hercules]

Do you not feel we've steadily progressed within our budget/perimeters? We have improved our training facilities, we're building a new 61k stadium we have CL and the youngest squad in the EPL.

There's a lot to be proud of I think. It's not all about how much you spend.

Please my friend whom I have never met. Please do not go on about facilities and youngest squad, and all the rest. Just what our board loves to hear. Their propaganda, manipulated and controlled by the club. We sign 2 then you hear we have to shift first. Some have really been duped.

 

[slartibartfast]

Anyone tell me if Trippier is injured or why he wasn't on bench?
Makes no sense if poch knew walker was unfit.
Weirdness

 

[Maske2g]

Do you not feel we've steadily progressed within our budget/perimeters? We have improved our training facilities, we're building a new 61k stadium we have CL and the youngest squad in the EPL.

There's a lot to be proud of I think. It's not all about how much you spend.

No I dont.

We had planning permission for a ground a very very long time ago. We procrastinated and scrimped, as per normal. Not building during the recession has alledgedly put not tens, but hundreds of millions on to the cost of the ground.

Was last year progress? Depends how you measure it. Better football sometimes, not our best pts total in the end. It would have been if we were prepared for the season.....

We were pretty much as you were while others had bad years. If we struck while others around us faltered who knows what would have happened. Maybe we would have given leicester a game at home, and been 6 points closer in the run in. Maybe we would have won more of those games we dominated but didnt have the quality to finish off. Alas, our club motto isnt adhered to.

Einstein said the Definition of madness, is doing the same things over and over and expecting different results. That is us to a tee.

 

[Maske2g]

Bench is going to look weaker when your missing your keeper, rb and cm. The bench was on the pitch.

A champions league side, in the richest league in the world, should have quality all over their bench and more.

All this, "he can play in 3 positions" nonsense is a joke.

Dier looked like he had never played football before when he moved positions yesterday.

 

[slartibartfast]

No I dont.

We had planning permission for a ground a very very long time ago. We procrastinated and scrimped, as per normal. Not building during the recession has alledgedly put not tens, but hundreds of millions on to the cost of the ground.

Was last year progress? Depends how you measure it. Better football sometimes, not our best pts total in the end. It would have been if we were prepared for the season.....

We were pretty much as you were while others had bad years. If we struck while others around us faltered who knows what would have happened. Maybe we would have given leicester a game at home, and been 6 points closer in the run in. Maybe we would have won more of those games we dominated but didnt have the quality to finish off. Alas, our club motto isnt adhered to.

Einstein said the Definition of madness, is doing the same things over and over and expecting different results. That is us to a tee.

Well aint you just a ray of sunshine lol.
We're not Man U, Citae or Chelski and never have been.
We CANNOT compete with their finances so why get upset when we don't?
Not sure what you think Spurs should do differently.
We've had 3 top 4 finishs in recent years, have a fantastic state of the art training ground and a new 61,000 capacity stadium on the way but you're still not happy.
We're 3 games in ffs. The window is still open and we've CL football to look forward to.
Just not good enough is it