Summer 2022 Window Scouting Thread

[allpaths]

Very quick, nimble, athletic, good on the ball and can hold it under pressure in tight spaces, can drive the team forward with ball carrying and a sharp passing ability, along with being defensively very good because of previously mentioned athleticism and reading of the game. He’s basically a wirey version of Dembele in my opinion, just not as good defensively but probably better on the ball and going forward (not enough goal contributions but he progresses the ball better). I don’t think he’s anything like anyone we currently have and would be a perfect Conte style all action midfielder in a 2 or a 3 man midfield

He's quality no disputing that, but I dont see a big enough upgrade on Bentacur or Skipp to justify him. First of all Skipp and Bentacur are both extremely athletic, can cover a lot of pitch and are better defensively. We also haven't seen the very best from Bentacur yet, since he's still adapting to the league and playing through injections.

To me Bissouma's does not bring enough of a creative element to our side that he'd help us against the low block sides that have given us so much trouble.

As you can see his passing stats and actions leading to shot in general r underwhelming to say the least.

It's why Eriksen on a free is so crucial for me.

 

[ralphs bald spot]

Yeah, I've want that type of player, we should go for Sangare. The only issue is he has only played in weak leagues and would he be able to transfer those performances to the EPL. Bissouma was able to, but you never know. I think he has more chance of being able to than Ndombele or Soumare though.

he was excellent at the African Nations arguably the player of the tournament

 

[Japhet]

I am oddly calm about this summer. There is not a single player that I would classify as “must have”. I trust Paratici implicitly to identify players that fit Conte’s remit, are affordable, and are prepared to play in this league.

I don’t care who the players are - I trust the team. (It’s been a while since I thought that).

Me too. There seems to be an abundance of realistic targets out there and I'm sure we'll actually sign some that haven't even been mentioned yet. With Paratici running the show I'm confident we won't waste weeks chasing some huge marquee signing, only to get blown out of the water last minute as per, and even then, we have a much bigger draw with Conte (and hopefully CL) to get any such pursuit over the line. I wouldn't see us getting deJong for example, but would be very pleased with any of Phillips, Bissouma, Sangare, Seko Fofana, MacKennie etc who should be relatively attainable.

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

The player we need is Aurelien Tchouameni, but the sweepstakes for him this summer are going to be between Liverpool, Madrid, and maybe City/Chelsea if they can stump up the cash.

I haven't been as sure that a midfielder is going to become world class in years. He has everything a midfielder could ever want, elite athleticism and tackling, great vision, advanced dribbling/passing, and he can strike a ball incredibly well on top of that.

Sucks that we'll likely see him in red.

He’s quality, and only 22. But as you say, he’s probably Real or City bound. Not even sure the Chavs could afford him now

 

[Ron Burgundy]

I am oddly calm about this summer. There is not a single player that I would classify as “must have”. I trust Paratici implicitly to identify players that fit Conte’s remit, are affordable, and are prepared to play in this league.

I don’t care who the players are - I trust the team. (It’s been a while since I thought that).

Totally agree. When you think about the players we could be looking at/need:

- a LCB - definitely a few options around, and ultimately in Ben Davies we have an excellent incumbent
- a CB - Dier looks better than ever, maybe if we want to bolster it, great
- a LWB - only if we sell Reggie, if not, no issue, and Sess will be first choice
- a RWB - probably our most needed first team player, we need to get that right in fairness

- one or two CMs - loads of options available, including the likes of Eriksen, and at the very least, we're BADLY off there, it could just do with bolstering. Skipp, Bentancur, PEH, Sarr - some good players there

- a winger - we have two pretty shit hot first teamers, so it's about support really. Again, there'll be options. I'd favour some young, quick players.

- a back up striker - no worries

So really, as long as we (1) sort outgoings and fees for them, and do it early and (2) nail the RWB buy....there are loads of options for the rest.

I think we look well placed....IF, we get at least our point at Norwich

 

[fecka]

I was under the impression that Tchouameni is THE signing for Real this summer? Even ahead of Mbappe etc?
I doubt that anyone could compete with them for his signature if they're that keen on him.

 

[Rosco1984]

Controversial one, but...

Eddie Nketiah.

His contract is up next month and apparently he's going to leave the Goons.

We can't offer him a First XI guaranteed start, but we can offer him pretty much everything else he'd want.

For us he ticks a lot of the boxes, although whether or not he'd want to burn his bridges with Arsenal is another thing.

Having strikers who have a point to prove to those muppets hasnt worked out too bad for us lately as well.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

I was under the impression that Tchouameni is THE signing for Real this summer? Even ahead of Mbappe etc?
I doubt that anyone could compete with them for his signature if they're that keen on him.

Liverpool or Real for him I would guess - he's top table stuff, never going to happen for us sadly. Would be amazing, obviously

Separately, there haven't been any noises about Jesus - personally I think he would be a good buy, if he was prepared to fight it out with our incumbent three up top...which he might not be.

Good player though

 

[Tottenham_God]

Liverpool or Real for him I would guess - he's top table stuff, never going to happen for us sadly. Would be amazing, obviously

Separately, there haven't been any noises about Jesus - personally I think he would be a good buy, if he was prepared to fight it out with our incumbent three up top...which he might not be.

Good player though

Jesus always looks like he's taking a humongous shit.

Pardon the pun.

 

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

He's quality no disputing that, but I dont see a big enough upgrade on Bentacur or Skipp to justify him. First of all Skipp and Bentacur are both extremely athletic, can cover a lot of pitch and are better defensively. We also haven't seen the very best from Bentacur yet, since he's still adapting to the league and playing through injections.

To me Bissouma's does not bring enough of a creative element to our side that he'd help us against the low block sides that have given us so much trouble.

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As you can see his passing stats and actions leading to shot in general r underwhelming to say the least.

It's why Eriksen on a free is so crucial for me.

Couple of things on this.

Firstly, for Brighton Bissouma has the main defensive responsibility in their midfield and so has to sit deepest and do the core deep defensive work on his own. For us he’d be in more of a balanced pair.

Secondly I feel like a lot of people are misunderstanding the roles of our CMs in the 343. They aren’t there to be creative and playmakers, they are there to be strong defensively, mobile and to move the ball quickly when they win it to transition play. Our 2 CMs are part of the defensive block of 5.

In Conte’s 343 the creativity is meant to come primarily from the 3 forwards and 2 wing backs. Having a playmaker like Eriksen as an option is definitely needed (he can play inside forward or cm in an alternative 343 shape) but make no mistake, our CMs core attributes need to be defensive strength, mobility, athleticism, technical ability to take the ball in tight spaces and transition play under pressure.

Bissouma fits this role to perfection and would mean we have 4 players perfect to rotate in the CM positions as all can play that role Conte wants.

 

[danielneeds]

Couple of things on this.

Firstly, for Brighton Bissouma has the main defensive responsibility in their midfield and so has to sit deepest and do the core deep defensive work on his own. For us he’d be in more of a balanced pair.

Secondly I feel like a lot of people are misunderstanding the roles of our CMs in the 343. They aren’t there to be creative and playmakers, they are there to be strong defensively, mobile and to move the ball quickly when they win it to transition play. Our 2 CMs are part of the defensive block of 5.

In Conte’s 343 the creativity is meant to come primarily from the 3 forwards and 2 wing backs. Having a playmaker like Eriksen as an option is definitely needed (he can play inside forward or cm in an alternative 343 shape) but make no mistake, our CMs core attributes need to be defensive strength, mobility, athleticism, technical ability to take the ball in tight spaces and transition play under pressure.

Bissouma fits this role to perfection and would mean we have 4 players perfect to rotate in the CM positions as all can play that role Conte wants.

I agree with you here. Conte is primarily looking for a double pivot with incredible defensive solidity. There is a chance that if he really trusts the defence and we get the right upgrades there that he would countenance a midfielder who can go box to box in there like Barella did, but whoever we get to upgrade Winks needs to protect the defence first and foremost.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Jesus always looks like he's taking a humongous shit.

Pardon the pun.

He does! It's a valid point

What's the pun though?

 

[spids]

Totally agree. When you think about the players we could be looking at/need:

- a LCB - definitely a few options around, and ultimately in Ben Davies we have an excellent incumbent
- a CB - Dier looks better than ever, maybe if we want to bolster it, great
- a LWB - only if we sell Reggie, if not, no issue, and Sess will be first choice
- a RWB - probably our most needed first team player, we need to get that right in fairness

- one or two CMs - loads of options available, including the likes of Eriksen, and at the very least, we're BADLY off there, it could just do with bolstering. Skipp, Bentancur, PEH, Sarr - some good players there

- a winger - we have two pretty shit hot first teamers, so it's about support really. Again, there'll be options. I'd favour some young, quick players.

- a back up striker - no worries

So really, as long as we (1) sort outgoings and fees for them, and do it early and (2) nail the RWB buy....there are loads of options for the rest.

I think we look well placed....IF, we get at least our point at Norwich

I would have agreed with you until recently. But I do not think saying we are ok for wingers and just need backup is right. We need players who are as god as our current players if not better. Let's look to add players like Martinez and Dybala to have a front 5 to be scared of. Let's look to give Dier and Davies proper competition with ball playing defenders - Gvardiol and De Vrij - to add to our existing 3. Reguilon is not suited to being an attacking LWB as he lacks composure int he final third. Sessegnon has it, let's buy a player that he can be backup to like Kostic. In CM, we have 3 good'uns. Let's buy a 4th that is an upgrade on Winks (and will push to start over Højbjerg and bentancur), and also throw Eriksen into the mix as well to give us options for a 3 man CM when needed. RWB - we need a first team player upgrade with Doherty back up. If we have CL next season, 2 games a week, the WBs and WFs will be rotated on a weekly basis and if we want to actually win these trophies we need 2 players of equal quality in each position, not simple backups.

 

[Yiddo1982]

He's quality no disputing that, but I dont see a big enough upgrade on Bentacur or Skipp to justify him. First of all Skipp and Bentacur are both extremely athletic, can cover a lot of pitch and are better defensively. We also haven't seen the very best from Bentacur yet, since he's still adapting to the league and playing through injections.

To me Bissouma's does not bring enough of a creative element to our side that he'd help us against the low block sides that have given us so much trouble.

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As you can see his passing stats and actions leading to shot in general r underwhelming to say the least.

It's why Eriksen on a free is so crucial for me.

Solid research, thanks. However, I wouldn’t be too concerned about passing actions leading to shots. I don’t think we can quantify just how bad Maupay and Welbeck are in comparison to who he’d be feeding at Spurs.

I still think Bissouma will end up at Liverpool. It will be one of those signings they announce out of the blue. Ruthlessly efficient.

 

[lincspurs]

Apologies if mentioned elsewhere, but do we know if Bissouma’s case is going to court & if so what the timeline is?

 

[elfy]

Apologies if mentioned elsewhere, but do we know if Bissouma’s case is going to court & if so what the timeline is?

There's very little real info I can find, but it looks like he is on bail pending charge.

If hes charged with the state of the court system I'd expect it to be a year or two before he goes to court.

I think the decision whether or not to charge him will determine if he is a viable target. That could be sorted in a week, it could drag for months. It all depends on the evidence and if the police/CPS feel there is a case to answer.

 

[roy@SC]

Bissouma's miles ahead, but isn't he kinda of similar to what we already have at the club.

No, he is exactly what we don't have.

 

[Flobadob]

He's quality no disputing that, but I dont see a big enough upgrade on Bentacur or Skipp to justify him. First of all Skipp and Bentacur are both extremely athletic, can cover a lot of pitch and are better defensively. We also haven't seen the very best from Bentacur yet, since he's still adapting to the league and playing through injections.

To me Bissouma's does not bring enough of a creative element to our side that he'd help us against the low block sides that have given us so much trouble.

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As you can see his passing stats and actions leading to shot in general r underwhelming to say the least.

It's why Eriksen on a free is so crucial for me.

Yeah I don’t think I’d be bringing him in for his creativity and I agree signing Eriksen would be a great idea. I think he’s very much a middle third dominator with his play in the mould of Dembele and I believe if we get some more creative wingbacks, sign Eriksen, so we can switch to 352 if needed, he would be exactly the kind of player we need. I’d say the same of Phillips and to a lesser extent Neves. Though Neves would go a long way to fixing the creativity problem while still being solid enough defensively

 

[longdistancespursfan]

i dont think levy will want any player where they have been investigated, bailed etc, fair or not i think levy will see it as a risk not worth taking.

cant see us signing bissouma.

 

[Flobadob]

i dont think levy will want any player where they have been investigated, bailed etc, fair or not i think levy will see it as a risk not worth taking.

cant see us signing bissouma.

Everyone understands the issues with his potential off field problems, but this is the scouting thread and people are discussing his ability as a player and whether he’d be a good fit in the team. Obviously no one wants a player convicted of sexual assault but it’s innocent until proven guilty and no one is suggesting we sign him until he’s cleared of all charges, assuming he is. If he isn’t then his football career would effectively be over