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tiger666

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Nah, genuinely not, I like Dier a lot, just not as a CM. I think he's hopefully got a big future as a Cb who's robust and tenacious, has a brain and can step out and play a bit, much like Alderweireld does now. I think he's also got leadership qualities.

I'd be very tempted to go for Lloris myself. Like all of our first team (lets say 12 inc. Son), I wouldn't actively push any of them out the door, but I think Lloris whilst being a very good keeper has some flaws and I don't actually think he's as good as some others do.

Obviously I'd actually chip in a few quid if we could offload Sissoko, but of the next group of players I really don't rate Davies much at all. I just don't think he's great in any aspect, even defensively.

Fair enough. In that case I'll go Dembele. Come at me.
 

danielneeds

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How very dare you!



Nah, genuinely not, I like Dier a lot, just not as a CM. I think he's hopefully got a big future as a Cb who's robust and tenacious, has a brain and can step out and play a bit, much like Alderweireld does now. I think he's also got leadership qualities.

I'd be very tempted to go for Lloris myself. Like all of our first team (lets say 12 inc. Son), I wouldn't actively push any of them out the door, but I think Lloris whilst being a very good keeper has some flaws and I don't actually think he's as good as some others do.

Obviously I'd actually chip in a few quid if we could offload Sissoko, but of the next group of players I really don't rate Davies much at all. I just don't think he's great in any aspect, even defensively.
I agree, that Lloris' performance these last two seasons has not been as high as his first two campaigns. Maybe it's easier for him to be a keeper in a worse performing team, being constantly busy..?

I think he's an important guy in the dressing room though. Professional, serious, intense. The sort of guy proper clubs are built on.
 

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I'd be very tempted to go for Lloris myself. Like all of our first team (lets say 12 inc. Son), I wouldn't actively push any of them out the door, but I think Lloris whilst being a very good keeper has some flaws and I don't actually think he's as good as some others do.

Obviously I'd actually chip in a few quid if we could offload Sissoko, but of the next group of players I really don't rate Davies much at all. I just don't think he's great in any aspect, even defensively.

We're definitely not in agreement when it comes to Lloris who I genuinely believe is a world class keeper but when it comes to Davies I agree wholehearteldy. I kind of cringe whenever he's on the ball or a player is taking him on as I feel he's a bit of a liability. I have to say he's improved a lot though over the last few months but I also think we should target someone who's a better fit for our system and a better player overall.
 

Spurrific

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How very dare you!



Nah, genuinely not, I like Dier a lot, just not as a CM. I think he's hopefully got a big future as a Cb who's robust and tenacious, has a brain and can step out and play a bit, much like Alderweireld does now. I think he's also got leadership qualities.

I'd be very tempted to go for Lloris myself. Like all of our first team (lets say 12 inc. Son), I wouldn't actively push any of them out the door, but I think Lloris whilst being a very good keeper has some flaws and I don't actually think he's as good as some others do.

Obviously I'd actually chip in a few quid if we could offload Sissoko, but of the next group of players I really don't rate Davies much at all. I just don't think he's great in any aspect, even defensively.

Lloris is one of the best in the league (second behind DDG (who also has his share of flaws) imo) and perfect for our style of play. There is no reason for us to even contemplate selling him when there is no way we'd sign a replacement that is fit to tie Hugo's shoelaces.
 

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Fair enough. In that case I'll go Dembele. Come at me.

Bingo, scrub Lloris (he's now 3rd), I'd go Dembele too. Completely forgot about him. I like the guy, but he's getting on, has constant injury issues, and with Wanyama there we need someone who zips the ball about and is more metronomic and incisive.
 

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Lloris is one of the best in the league (second behind DDG imo) and perfect for our style of play. There is no reason for us to even contemplate selling him when there is no way we'd sign a replacement that is fit to tie Hugo's shoelaces.

His decision making as a "sweeper" is fucking awful, every single game now he's making idiotic decisions and putting the defenders under pressure unnecessarily, we got away with so many of those this year.
 

SpartanSpur

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No I'm just saying it's a common trope that gets bandied out frequently. Even though it's pretty obvious that whenever someone says it they obviously have put zero thought into it.

It is a common trope, and I agree.

It is still what we need though, but for other reasons. I can remember Mane scoring in most of their big games. Breaking down defences is something we have really improved this year IMHO. It's just having players that can punish teams in the bigger games out of nothing, examples being Mkhitaryan, Mane and Sane in our away games. Someone that can do what Bale did a OT that time. Our players can do that to an extent, but having an extra option like that would really help us in away games and big games especially.
 

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Bingo, scrub Lloris (he's now 3rd), I'd go Dembele too. Completely forgot about him. I like the guy, but he's getting on, has constant injury issues, and with Wanyama there we need someone who zips the ball about and is more metronomic and incisive.

We have someone who fits that profile. Harry Winks.
 

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His decision making as a "sweeper" is fucking awful, every single game now he's making idiotic decisions and putting the defenders under pressure unnecessarily, we got away with so many of those this year.

He plays a risky game, but he definitely the best goalkeeper I can remember us having. After the likes of Ian Walker, Sullivan, Gomes and Robinson - we've gone from having incredibly average goalies to having one that is certified world class. He captains France and us, he is a vital piece of the Tottenham jigsaw, imo.

People would like us to sign Pickford, Heaton or one of the next upcoming English goalkeepers, but none of them will ever be as good as Hugo. I am delighted that we have him and hope we keep him for as long as he is happy to stay. Yes, occasionally his rushing out backfires but it doesn't far more often than it does. It's not a case of "getting away with so many" - every team would be punished if it kept making the same mistake, we just cover ourselves adequately in case Lloris' outward ventures end up putting us under pressure, which is part and parcel of the sweeper keeper game.

The best sweeper keeper in the world is caught out a fair amount during his jaunts towards the halfway line. I remember Stankovic banging in a volley from 45 yards against Neuer because he was fannying about. It happens. I'm sure Lloris would be one of the last players Poch would want to cash in on.
 

danielneeds

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Lloris is a quality goalkeeper but he really does put the defence under pressure with his distribution, it is appalling.
Christ how many times do we have to go through this?

It's the way we play. Poch wants us to play out of tough spots and trust our talent, rather than lump the ball up field and play percentages. So Lloris gives the ball to the centre halves and full backs even though they have people closing them down, trusting them to play out of trouble. And we do it time and time again.

We may get into trouble on the odd occasion, but there is a reason we've faced the least shots in the whole league. We don't just boot the ball down field and give teams the chance to launch hopeful attacks.
 

alfie103

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Christ how many times do we have to go through this?

It's the way we play. Poch wants us to play out of tough spots and trust our talent, rather than lump the ball up field and play percentages. So Lloris gives the ball to the centre halves and full backs even though they have people closing them down, trusting them to play out of trouble. And we do it time and time again.

We may get into trouble on the odd occasion, but there is a reason we've faced the least shots in the whole league. We don't just boot the ball down field and give teams the chance to launch hopeful attacks.

I understand we want to pass it out from the back, The fact is he barely plays a decent pass to our centre backs and never seems to have the ball under control. His footballing skills are pretty poor. Fantastic goalkeeper though.
 

tiger666

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His decision making as a "sweeper" is fucking awful, every single game now he's making idiotic decisions and putting the defenders under pressure unnecessarily, we got away with so many of those this year.

Who do you think we should replace him with?
 

danielneeds

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I understand we want to pass it out from the back, The fact is he barely plays a decent pass to our centre backs and never seems to have the ball under control. His footballing skills are pretty poor. Fantastic goalkeeper though.
I think that's a gross misrepresentation. He doesn't always radiate confidence with the ball at his feet, but his short passing is usually very accurate. His longer passes are generally out wide to the fullback, they generally go to the target or out for a throw, which means we have a chance to get back into our defensive shape. There's a plan to it all. Just look at our defensive record the last two years. Speaks for itself really.
 

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I don't come on here much so maybe I'm missing the joke so I feel I should check, are people being serious about Lloris and Dembele?

They've stuck around and believed in this project even when it looked like it was going tits up and put in excellent performances for us but you want them gone? They're showing the kind of loyalty we all want to see from our players and frankly you should all be banned from here for suggesting such nonsense. If I had my way that kind of talk would get you handcuffed to a seat in the Emriates with a nob tattooed on your forehead.

Replace Lloris and Dembele? Fuck off :banghead:
 

tiger666

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I don't come on here much so maybe I'm missing the joke so I feel I should check, are people being serious about Lloris and Dembele?

They've stuck around and believed in this project even when it looked like it was going tits up and put in excellent performances for us but you want them gone? They're showing the kind of loyalty we all want to see from our players and frankly you should all be banned from here for suggesting such nonsense. If I had my way that kind of talk would get you handcuffed to a seat in the Emriates with a nob tattooed on your forehead.

Replace Lloris and Dembele? Fuck off :banghead:

Never said I wanted him gone. The question was:

Lets say, according to general consensus that Walker was most people's first choice of "who to sell if we have to sell one", who would everyone's second choice be ?
 

SargeantMeatCurtains

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His decision making as a "sweeper" is fucking awful, every single game now he's making idiotic decisions and putting the defenders under pressure unnecessarily, we got away with so many of those this year.
Not saying you're referring to last night, but his decision to come out and sweep before they scored was absolutely the right decision.

For whatever reason, the linesman failed to give Vardy offside, despite him being a yard ahead of any of our players so Lloris had to react. A series of deflections and slips followed and we were unlucky to concede.
 

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Imminent Spurs Signing Barkley on brink of move away

Spurs are bracing themselves for a bid for Ross Barkley as the player prepares to join the North London club.

The 23 year old has 22 England caps and sees Pochettino's style and training regime as the perfect way to boost his career.

But Spurs know they cannot hold onto their star players and bids from Man Utd, Chelsea and Man City are likely to be too tempting to hold onto the midfield star.

A close source to the player said: "Ross is very excited about his move to Tottenham as soon as the transfer window opens. But by the end of the transfer window he expects to move to a bigger club."

This will be a tough blow to the North London club who have guaranteed 2nd in the Prem as a host of stars including, Harry Kane, Alli, Alderweireld and Eriksen are all expected to leave this summer.


Source - The Dontcallme Express, the internets only bi-annual, one story publication.
 
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