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Here's my completely unrealistic preferred line-up...
Friedel
Walker Bassong Kaboul Benni
Parker Sandro
Modric
VDV Bale
Adebayor
would be my first choice tbh!
Here's my completely unrealistic preferred line-up...
Friedel
Walker Bassong Kaboul Benni
Parker Sandro
Modric
VDV Bale
Adebayor
Last season he created as many scoring chances as VdV and Modders. It wasn't his fault that only a couple were converted.
Let's just write him off, shall we?
Agree. Lennon is nowehere near in as deep a shit period of form as some on here will have you believe.
Who didn't look shit against United? I don't remember Bale looking anything like good anyway, if anything Lennon had more impact in the first two games than him.
Would be good to give Gallas a little run out, maybe 45mins to build him up slowly.
Matter of opinion but one game isn't enough to judge this, plus we've won every game that Parker and Modric have played together in midfield.
All this is for a lot of people is getting Sandro, everyones favourite in the team. Its thinly veiled as some tactics debate but really this is the essence of it.
You write so much and quite a lot of rubbish in my opinion, your diagnosis is incredibly wrong, United play a 4-4-1-1,we play a 4-4-1-1 most of the time, this stupid talk as if there is any difference between a 4-2-3-1 and a 4-4-1-1 is barmy.
Formations are irrelevant anyway, basically it comes down to whether you want two defensive midfielders in the team instead of one. Sometimes the answer will be yes but most of the time its a no and Tottenham will need to get as many aggressive players on the pitch as possible and Modric being able to hold his own in central midfield is a massive plus because it allows us to get an extra attacker on the pitch.
Well, I could have permed it to leave out Lennon and play Bale right or left. I should have thought the point was pretty obvious—that a change of formation is (or should be) very straightforward to bring about, especially when you know that substitutes are going to be used anyway, and that it is no more difficult for a manager to influence things with a 4-4-2 than it is with a 4-2-3-1 or anything else.
We know that virtually every team will line up with four men at the back; the only question there is how the FBs are employed. We also know that one at least of the FBs will be used in an attacking role. You've got six men to sort out, and your permutations are not only limited but overlap; 4-4-1-1 can as easily be a 4-4-2 or a 4-5-1, depending on how far forward or how far back your withdrawn forward plays.
This, I'm afraid, is what gets me about the Sandro love. As soon as some of those who are raving about him now see signs of fallibility, they'll turn on him. Huge potential, but he's appeared in barely 20 games and people would prefer him to Parker? Stroll on. He's got a lot to learn.
You simply couldn't imagine the attacks on Defoe we get now a few seasons ago (and one has to ask, why did it take so many people so long to realise he was a good but not outstanding striker?). Same with Lennon.
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Good news from Harry this morning - Steven Pienaar, William Gallas and Ledley King could all be available to face QPR on Sunday.
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Good news from Harry this morning - Steven Pienaar, William Gallas and Ledley King could all be available to face QPR on Sunday.
Still reckon bassong may end up starting. Gallas won't start ahead of him having been out for so long. Just a question of whether Ledley makes it
I agree there's a blurring of lines and it's silly to get too hung up over whether it's 4-2-3-1, 4-4-1-1, 4-4-2 or whatever.
And you're quite right it does in the first place simply boil down to whether you want two tough tackling, ball-playing CMs at the base of your midfield rather than one.
You feel that it's more attacking having Modric share the defensive work-load playing slightly deeper, but having an additional attacker like Lennon on the pitch, we argue that this isn't the case.
In essence you feel we can win the ball more than adequately with a two man centre midfield including Modric against most opposition. We argue that in fact we can't.
More than that we think that if you can press high up the pitch, get in the oppositions faces and win the ball back quickly and aggressively this is a platform which means your primary attackers, albeit five rather than six (inc Walker) are seeing more of the ball and seeing more of it in the final third.
The alternative is you contain more than press, you only close up the space as they approach our defensive third, you wait for them to make an error as much as try to force the issue, so that you win the ball back less frequently, you allow them more of a platform to attack us in our half of the pitch, but you do hit them with counter-attacks from deep where you hope having the extra attacker and speed on the flanks will mean you're more likely to damage them when you do.
I think both are viable options, each depends on the quality of player you have available to you, but I would prefer to more often start with the plan A we had against Newcastle, but switch to the plan B (4-4-2) if it isn't working.
Sure, you can switch - though the formations describe the qualities of the players in each role as much as the simple position they play on the pitch; to illustrate the point with an extreme example, you could put Friedel in CM and Modric in goal and play 4-2-3-1, but you'd have missed the point of what you're trying to describe - but my argument is that the efficacy of the switch is greater switching one way than the other.
So lectures SC's very own paragon of balance and fair-mindedness :rofl:
Still reckon bassong may end up starting. Gallas won't start ahead of him having been out for so long. Just a question of whether Ledley makes it