The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 13th July 2015

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Is there anyone decent at Olympiacos that we may be interested in?

If there is we could probably buy them for the price of a pack of Space Raiders.

 

[codspur]

If there is we could probably buy them for the price of a pack of Space Raiders.

like it topical !!!.....
But

Don't bring pickled onions in to a confused cabbage thread[/QUOTE]

 

[yankspurs]

Is there any actual itk in the last 30 pages? Nothing in the itk ro but usually some titbits still flying around in here.

Ta

You mean other than there bejng a 3rd cabbage?

Hertyid, i believe, said on one of the other forums that the club expects Lloris to be fit by the beginning of the season, which is music to Van Gaal's ears as he wont have to use Valdes as Lindegaard as his keeper and will be able to play Lloris.

 

[BuckeyeSpurs11]

Given the link, surely it's Olympique Marseille that's being referred to?

Batshuyi plays for Marseille...brussel = Belgian? He checks a lot of those boxes

 

[yankspurs]

Batshuyi plays for Marseille...brussel = Belgian? He checks a lot of those boxes

At what point do we worry about a belgian clique being created though? We already have 4. 5 would be a bit much, me thinks.

 

[sam1972]

At what point do we worry about a belgian clique being created though? We already have 4. 5 would be a bit much, me thinks.

Why? How many British players are in the team? Are you worried about a British clique?

 

[Luka Van der Bale]

God people do worked up over what appears to be nothing. Jj confirmed that the other is the better one and be happy with. Considering he said we have been after huge potential all summer I really can't see it being Hernandez. Come on with Evans really that ain't a feesible link just cause he is a CB and we signed alderwierald you are all ffs chill out! My wife doesn't get in hissy fits like this!

It's been confirmed that the Alderweireld signing ruled one of the cabbages out.

 

[EnfieldYiddo]

You mean other than there bejng a 3rd cabbage?

Hertyid, i believe, said on one of the other forums that the club expects Lloris to be fit by the beginning of the season, which is music to Van Gaal's ears as he wont have to use Valdes as Lindegaard as his keeper and will be able to play Lloris.

Don't you ever bore yourself

 

[SpartanSpur]

I wish my cabbage cryptic roundup could be stickied somehow...

Same with the solution to the third cabbage, which can be found if you read the thread.

And yet people still make contradictory guesses.

 

[thebetamaxboy]

Darren Lewis - isn't he usually fairly decent? At least among Mirror writers... Looks like this window he's called Ogbonna to West Ham, Alderweireld to us, Martina to Soton, Falcao to Chelsea...

I can see the batman & superjan t-shirts already : )

 

[WhiteStripe]

You mean other than there bejng a 3rd cabbage?

Hertyid, i believe, said on one of the other forums that the club expects Lloris to be fit by the beginning of the season, which is music to Van Gaal's ears as he wont have to use Valdes as Lindegaard as his keeper and will be able to play Lloris.

Is there a "twat" rating? There has to be a "twat" rating. Or at least a "twat" smiley. Either way posts like this deserve one.

On a side note. I'm not sure using Valdes as Lindegaard is a great plan. They look nothing alike. It'll have nobody fooled.

 

[DiamondLites]

I'd be delighted with N'jie and Batshuayi, here's hoping

 

[Bus-Conductor]

So was Alex Song not a new link from the goat? Cameroon - Olympics etc... Njie, Song both suggested.
Only I've just seen he's been valued at only £5m by barca, a position we need to fill, experienced in PL as well as Europe, and still got good years ahead of him.

Completely agree, said this a month ago.

 

[jakuba]

Maybe the players are bums off the seat in that fans will be leaving the stadium. Fits in with the Evans and Hernandez theories.

 

[yankspurs]

You mean other than there bejng a 3rd cabbage?

Hertyid, i believe, said on one of the other forums that the club expects Lloris to be fit by the beginning of the season, which is music to Van Gaal's ears as he wont have to use Valdes as Lindegaard as his keeper and will be able to play Lloris.

I see this didnt go down well. Oh well. Onwards and upwards.

On the road to 1,000!

 

[Bus-Conductor]

. It's people like me, not experts, who get inordinately impressed by very clever mathematicians explaining their toys to you,

That happened to me too, walked funny for days and I still break out in a cold sweat when I see a slide rule extended.

 

[SelbYido]

On the black-box bollocks. It's almost certainly a misreporting of an approach by journalists don't really understand.

A blackbox is something like a neural network where you shove a whole load of variables into the mix and ask a bit of software to come up with an optimum outcome, where you set what that benchmark is. It's a black box because the human doesn't actually understand how it works, it's opaque, just that it comes up with an answer.

Like most alchemical myths it doesn't really work as it should, not on something as immeasurable as an optimum team dynamic anyway; how can the computer test all the counter-factuals? It can't.

In something like the betting game - my area of expertise - you can at least rerun matches ad infinitum and look at the bottom line, or have some kind of model score. Even then it's hard to beat something designed by humans using their experience and judgement, but tested on the same data, I can't imagine how it would work on something like player recruitment. What I do know is that companies like mine start out hugely excited by the potential, and seeming pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, only to find out it's usually a croc of shit. It's people like me, not experts, who get inordinately impressed by very clever mathematicians explaining their toys to you, and we get led astray. That's why I'd be extremely worried about football clubs getting seduced by the hocus pocus.

Anyway there won't be any magical black box, at best there will be football experts using some sophisticated analytics to help them home in on particular aspects, thus focusing their thoughts and decision making. That's what we should hope Mitchell and his team are doing.

That's exactly what I was about to say!

 

[Amnesiac503]

You mean other than there bejng a 3rd cabbage?

Hertyid, i believe, said on one of the other forums that the club expects Lloris to be fit by the beginning of the season, which is music to Van Gaal's ears as he wont have to use Valdes as Lindegaard as his keeper and will be able to play Lloris.

I must be exhausting living in a vortex of negativity.

 

[yankspurs]

I must be exhausting living in a vortex of negativity.

Being miserable and treating other people like dirt is every New Yorkers God-given right!

 

[rawhide]

Is there any actual itk in the last 30 pages? Nothing in the itk ro but usually some titbits still flying around in here.

Ta

Goat cryptic which Rob has sort of confirmed is Clinton N'jie from Lyon. (Regardless of which we are still getting guesses).