The England Thread

[nightgoat]

It's like you haven't watched how turgid Dier has been for England lately? England have played three or four of the worst games I've seen, ever, with Dier plodding around in there. Honestly, if he wasn't a Spurs player you (and the others saying the same) would be slaughtering Dier and wouldn't want him anywhere near this team. Unless you used to praise Phil Jones's England CM performances too ?

Against a team like this, England don't need the kind plodding risk aversion Dier brings. I don't overly rate Henderson, but there's nothing he does worse than Dier in the context of a game like this and at least he's a bit more dynamic.

It's like you haven't noticed how turgid England have been in every game since Southgate became manager regardless of who the personnel is. Not surprising that as usual Dier is your scapegoat for everything.

 

[Colonel_Klinck]

80 mins that feels like 80 hours

 

[nailsy]

Our midfield options shouldn't be Winks, Dier or Henderson though. We should have more than three players to choose from.

 

[felmani26]

Seriously, what the fuck is Kane still doing out on that pitch?!

 

[thinktank]

Seriously, what the fuck is Kane still doing out on that pitch?!

**** southgate.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

It's like you haven't noticed how turgid England have been in every game since Southgate became manager regardless of who the personnel is. Not surprising that as usual Dier is your scapegoat for everything.

Sorry, I forgot we are only allowed scapegoats from other clubs. Because that's all you were doing. What does Dier do better than Henderson that would improve a game like this? Better movement ? More incisive passing ? Quicker tempo ? More dynamic ?

Calling for Dier to play instead of Henderson is nothing but childish Spurs bias, and it's tedious.

 

[nedley]

These are badly coached.

 

[mark87]

Defence has looked crap tonight. We're gonna get wrecked next summer.

 

[nedley]

Our midfield options shouldn't be Winks, Dier or Henderson though. We should have more than three players to choose from.

Noble?










*rolls around laughing

 

[WiganSpur]

Southgate is gonna pick 4 keepers for the WC isn't he

 

[WiganSpur]

These are badly coached.

Actually reminding me of the Sherwood days, and we all know what a lot of the Spurs players thought of him. Ask Vertonghen and Lloris.

 

[nailsy]

I agree with Hoddle there. We struggle to break most teams down so we need to learn to play a different way.

 

[Marty]

Southgate is gonna pick 4 keepers for the WC isn't he

Are you allowed to? I thought you had to have 3 keepers in the 23, no more no less.

 

[heelspurs]

Against a team like this, England don't need the kind plodding risk aversion Dier brings. I don't overly rate Henderson, but there's nothing he does worse than Dier in the context of a game like this and at least he's a bit more dynamic.

I feel that this is a reason for Dier. Henderson carries the conceit that he is in fact a footballer when everyone can see he is not. His 'dynamism' does not include passing that is incisive nor accurate. Dier would at least sit and give Winks the security to roam and take chances.

 

[Cornpattbuck]

It's like you haven't noticed how turgid England have been in every game since Southgate became manager regardless of who the personnel is. Not surprising that as usual Dier is your scapegoat for everything.

BC appears to have split his Walker hatred between Dier and Dele this year. Broken record.

 

[Col_M]

https://twitter.com/dreamteamfc/status/916040676713701376

 

[nailsy]

I feel that this is a reason for Dier. Henderson carries the conceit that he is in fact a footballer when everyone can see he is not. His 'dynamism' does not include passing that is incisive nor accurate. Dier would at least sit and give Winks the security to roam and take chances.

Didn't Henderson create the best two chances in the match? The knock down for Alli when he was fouled for the penalty and the cross for Dele's header that he put wide.

 

[WiganSpur]

I feel that this is a reason for Dier. Henderson carries the conceit that he is in fact a footballer when everyone can see he is not. His 'dynamism' does not include passing that is incisive nor accurate. Dier would at least sit and give Winks the security to roam and take chances.

Dier is very overrated in possession, especially on here. Wouldn't solve anything. Southgate is the problem i'm afraid. This is obviously not a terrible group of players.

 

[Ionman34]

Sorry, I forgot we are only allowed scapegoats from other clubs. Because that's all you were doing. What does Dier do better than Henderson that would improve a game like this? Better movement ? More incisive passing ? Quicker tempo ? More dynamic ?

Calling for Dier to play instead of Henderson is nothing but childish Spurs bias, and it's tedious.

Don't agree with you here BC. Dier offers more discipline centrally alongside Winks, allowing him to move into more telling areas where he could do more damage.
Henderson lacked any discipline, often running beyond the forwards and leaving big gaps behind him that Winks was forced to try and fill. Henderson effectively neutralised Winks' effectiveness.

 

[Sandros Shiny Head]

Dier is very overrated in possession, especially on here. Wouldn't solve anything. Southgate is the problem i'm afraid. This is obviously not a terrible group of players.

He's much better than Henderson though, and improvement is improvement