spursandbarca
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if we are top 4 at christmas i hope levy allows redknapp to sign 2 more quality players
The Lawro Thread
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Pinto
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Where do we need improving? Just wondering as I think our squad is pretty set except a backup for Palacios and replacments for whoever we let leave in Jan. (Pav comes to mind) Maybe a backup left back but then you might as well ship Bale out and I don't want to give up on him yet.
StartingPrice
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:up:
It looks like a central midfielder is already taken care of (cf Sandro).
Pav. may just be hanging around if he gets game time and he takes his chance by the scruff of the neck (two big 'ifs').
Not only would we have to buy back-up for BAE if we sell Bale, but I really do thinik it would be a serious mistake to sell him, in-any-case. He isn't a winger, so the whole basis for labelling him a flop is that he was played out of position for a team that was crashing badly, and then got injured.
ExpatFan
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Let's hope he's wrong again this week too!
Arsenal v Tottenham (1245 GMT)
Arsenal have been swotting teams at home and have a fantastic record at the Emirates.
Spurs would have wished this match came a month ago, the hiccup last week against Stoke left us thinking 'is this the old Tottenham?' With no Defoe and probably no Lennon there is a lack of cutting edge.
Verdict: 2-0
Arsenal v Tottenham (1245 GMT)
Arsenal have been swotting teams at home and have a fantastic record at the Emirates.
Spurs would have wished this match came a month ago, the hiccup last week against Stoke left us thinking 'is this the old Tottenham?' With no Defoe and probably no Lennon there is a lack of cutting edge.
Verdict: 2-0
while wenger is famous for his 'swotting up' of teams and being a student of football in general - surely Lawro means 'swatting' here -
unless of course it's a typo in which case apologies to all for mentioning the difference
actually maybe 'swatting' can also be spelt 'swotting' - wanders off to check dictionary
EDIT - well my trusty collins dictionary agrees with my initial view - lawro means 'swatting'
however dictionary.com does confirm 'swot' as a variant of 'swat' - but i reckon it's possibly an americanism creeping in here -
anyway - as an Englishman i was brought up that 'swotting' happened at school not to irritating flies
unless of course it's a typo in which case apologies to all for mentioning the difference
actually maybe 'swatting' can also be spelt 'swotting' - wanders off to check dictionary
EDIT - well my trusty collins dictionary agrees with my initial view - lawro means 'swatting'
however dictionary.com does confirm 'swot' as a variant of 'swat' - but i reckon it's possibly an americanism creeping in here -
anyway - as an Englishman i was brought up that 'swotting' happened at school not to irritating flies
ealingspur
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Dc boy is back!
WexfordTownSpur
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spursman85
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Nah, that few goals? I reckon they'll be at least 4, although this is genuinely the toughest match to predict every season. I don't think any pundit will get it right, but I'm expecting an own goal and a red card.
WhiteStripe
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I honestly think we will pull this one out of the bag and lose by only 1 goal.
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:rofl: nice one mate
guiltyparty
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Laughed out loud at that
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Wellspurs
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The thing to remember is that when I got into WHL 10 years ago I could not believe how bad the team were we was putting out!
We had injuries and such a poor team(cant remember who) but thanks to a Sherwood goal a sending off Domingues? we beat the Scum 2-1
We had injuries and such a poor team(cant remember who) but thanks to a Sherwood goal a sending off Domingues? we beat the Scum 2-1
ParkLaneSnoop
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I was in Magic Kingdom, Florida when I got texted this result. I won't tell you what happened when I saw a lad in woolwich colours....
It cracks me up how people take Lawro's predictions so seriously. Go to any broadcaster, radio station or website and there are plenty of pundits making predictions. Just chill out all of you! They are just giving an opinion ffs!
Dundalk_Spur
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Well spurs that was November 1999. Iversen and Sherwood for us Viera for them all first half.
Ljungberg and Keown sent off for them. Dominguez beat Keown once left him on the ground, stood on the ball waited and beat Keown again, who took him just under the knee sending him high into the air. Didnt even wait to see the card.
Here are the teams and a totally unbiased Scum view of the game, enjoy:
Result : Tottenham (2) 2 Arsenal (1) 1Scorers: Iversen 6, Sherwood 20 Vieira 37Arsenal: Seaman, Dixon, Winterburn, Keown, Adams; Petit, Vieira, Ljungberg, Overmars; Bergkamp, Kanu Subs: Suker (Kanu 72), Grimandi (Petit 77), Upson, Vivas, Manninger Booked: Petit, Bergkamp, Vieira, Keown, Dixon, Suker Sent off: Ljungberg (53 violent conduct), Keown (90 2 yellows)Spurs: Walker, Carr, Perry, Campbell, Edinburgh, Leonhardsen, Sherwood, Clemence, Ginola, Iversen, Armstrong Subs: Fox (Leonhardsen 87), Dominguez (Ginola 89), Baardsen, Vega, Young Booked: Edinburgh, Leonhardsen, Clemence, CarrAtt: 36085Ref: David Elleray (Harrow-on-the-Hill)
A North London derby yesterday which was somewhat more "full-blooded" than normal, though the game might more accurately be described as full of thud and blunder. The thuds came from a rather high count of reckless challenges, while the blunders came principally from the referee. Arsenal's mood following the defeat to their bitterest (and I use the word advisedly) rivals won't have been helped by the 2 red cards they incurred, and which will doubtless be more grist to the mill of Arsenal's detractors.
If the bare facts are looked at, Arsenal lost this game in the opening 20 minutes, and there was some truth in that because the Gunners didn't start playing until they were 2 goals down. Spurs were much the sharper and more aggressive in the early stages, and dominated the first 20 minutes. The first goal came when a chip forward by Leonhardsen found Iversen beating the offside trap and neatly tucking a half-volley past Seaman from 12 yards. Dixon stood and watched when he might have cleared the ball had he followed it in, though he did have a case in that Armstrong in the middle who also chased the lob did appear to be offside.
Arsenal had more cause to feel aggrieved for the 2nd goal. Clemence clearly fouled Vieira a few yards outside the Arsenal area, and the ball ran on for Armstrong to collect and chase into the area. Petit tripped him just outside the box to earn the first booking of the day, and after Spurs had farted about for ages apparently deciding who would take the free kick, it was Sherwood who eventually hit the telling blow, curling a superb shot round the wall and just inside the far post.
Arsenal at last decided it was time to start playing, and pushed Spurs back for much of the rest of the half. Adams headed over from one Petit corner, and then got his head to another just ahead of Walker at the near post. The ball spun up and dropped right on the goal line, Kanu challenged for it and the ball crossed the line. The ref however blew up for a foul which only he could see, and ruled out what seemed to me a perfectly good goal.
A few minutes later though he couldn't deny Arsenal a goal. Bergkamp was fouled out on the right, Petit clipped in the free kick and found Vieira who had got free of his marker in the middle of the area. His header left Walker helpless as it hit the inside of his right hand post and bounced across just inside the side netting at the opposite post.
From thereon in, Arsenal looked the more likely winners. Early in the 2nd half a superb run by Vieira opened up the Spurs defence, and Bergkamp's flick seemed to have put Ljungberg through, but his touch allowed Campbell to get goal side and crowd him out.
The fun and games really started a few minutes later. Campbell fouled Bergkamp on the halfway line, the ref blew for a foul but Edinburgh carried on and went in studs up on Ljungberg. Not surprisingly the Swede took some exception to this and shoved Edinburgh in the chest, which caused the Spurs fullback to collapse dramatically to the ground clutching his face. Clemence and Armstrong then barged in to confront Ljungberg who was being restrained by Dixon. Meanwhile Keown was having words with Edinburgh who reacted by throwing a flurry of ineffectual (and somewhat effete) punches.
The ref meanwhile was standing back, apparently observing from a distance. His powers of observation however left a little to be desired because when the fracas died down he showed Ljungberg the red card, apparently telling other Arsenal players that it was for a head butt on Ginola. The Frenchman was apparently hit by an object thrown by a Spurs fan in the crowd during the melee, but he was several yards away from Ljungberg at the time. Edinburgh meanwhile got off scot free, and at the end of it all the ref bizarrely restarted the game by giving Spurs a throw-in.
Credit the 10 men of Arsenal then for completely dominating the rest of the game. They struggled to find clear paths through the Tottenham defence though, and on the one occasion they did, Walker denied them with a magnificent double save. Overmars burst through onto a loose ball in the area and fired in a shot which Walker beat out, and the keeper then somehow regained his feet to fling himself at Suker's attempt to force the rebound home. It looked a bad miss by the Croatian at the time, but after looking at the TV replay I think he was surprised by the ball gathering pace as it spun back off Walker, and he ended up having to dig it out from under his feet.
Suker forced another save from Walker some time later when he hooked a well struck shot goalwards from the 18 yard line, but it was straight at the keeper. Don't remember much else in the way of near things, possibly because of all the other things going on. Keown became the 2nd Arsenal player sent off, when he fouled the substitute Dominguez in injury time. Not much question about that one being a yellow card, but his first booking was for a perfectly good tackle on Ginola, which the ref interpreted as a tackle from behind.
Earlier Petit had been substituted after being dazed by a Sherwood elbow in the head which was clear from a hundred yards away at the back of the South stand. Needless to say the ref saw nothing wrong, though he did on several other occasions and ended up with 11 names in his book. I think he dug a hole for himself by letting several things go early on, and suddenly realising he was losing control of the game. At one point early on Leonhardsen shoved him in the chest (in a similar but more aggressive manner than the "push" on Durkin which earned Petit a red card a couple of years ago), without being punished.
Overall it was a bad day for the Gunners. Apart from the loss of 3 points to local rivals, the fallout from discipline problems seems likely to continue. Apart from the first 20 minutes, Arsenal controlled the match and played well enough, if lacking in real penetration, to have won on another day in different circumstances. The crucial thing is going to be the reaction over the next few weeks, particularly in the Vieira-less league games.
Seaman 6.5 Hard to judge him as Spurs only had 2 shots on target all game. Unfortunately they both went in.
Dixon 7.5 Had a fairly good game overall, though he might be held culpable for the 1st goal.
Winterburn 7.5 Typically Nutty performance.
Adams 8.0 Superb as ever.
Keown 7.5 As beligerently committed as ever. Might benefit from a more considered approach at times though.
Petit 7.5 Still looked a little short of match fitness at times though still had a good game, apart from being too easily wound up.
Vieira 8.5 Another great game from the midfield maestro, the only blemish being the yellow card for saying too much to the ref which is his 5th and means an extra match to add to his ban. Apart from that he seemed the coolest head on the pitch.
Ljungberg 7.5 Did a reasonably good and busy job as usual, but then reacted to the provocation.
Overmars 6.0 As poor as normal this season.
Bergkamp 6.5 Still not playing as smoothly as normal and getting overly frustrated as a result.
Kanu 7.0 Struggled to cope with Campbell's marking for much of the game, though ironically I thought he was coming more into it just before he was subbed.
Suker Put himself about a bit, and a bit unlucky with 2 efforts.
Grimandi Did pretty well again in the short time he was on.
Ljungberg and Keown sent off for them. Dominguez beat Keown once left him on the ground, stood on the ball waited and beat Keown again, who took him just under the knee sending him high into the air. Didnt even wait to see the card.
Here are the teams and a totally unbiased Scum view of the game, enjoy:
Result : Tottenham (2) 2 Arsenal (1) 1Scorers: Iversen 6, Sherwood 20 Vieira 37Arsenal: Seaman, Dixon, Winterburn, Keown, Adams; Petit, Vieira, Ljungberg, Overmars; Bergkamp, Kanu Subs: Suker (Kanu 72), Grimandi (Petit 77), Upson, Vivas, Manninger Booked: Petit, Bergkamp, Vieira, Keown, Dixon, Suker Sent off: Ljungberg (53 violent conduct), Keown (90 2 yellows)Spurs: Walker, Carr, Perry, Campbell, Edinburgh, Leonhardsen, Sherwood, Clemence, Ginola, Iversen, Armstrong Subs: Fox (Leonhardsen 87), Dominguez (Ginola 89), Baardsen, Vega, Young Booked: Edinburgh, Leonhardsen, Clemence, CarrAtt: 36085Ref: David Elleray (Harrow-on-the-Hill)
A North London derby yesterday which was somewhat more "full-blooded" than normal, though the game might more accurately be described as full of thud and blunder. The thuds came from a rather high count of reckless challenges, while the blunders came principally from the referee. Arsenal's mood following the defeat to their bitterest (and I use the word advisedly) rivals won't have been helped by the 2 red cards they incurred, and which will doubtless be more grist to the mill of Arsenal's detractors.
If the bare facts are looked at, Arsenal lost this game in the opening 20 minutes, and there was some truth in that because the Gunners didn't start playing until they were 2 goals down. Spurs were much the sharper and more aggressive in the early stages, and dominated the first 20 minutes. The first goal came when a chip forward by Leonhardsen found Iversen beating the offside trap and neatly tucking a half-volley past Seaman from 12 yards. Dixon stood and watched when he might have cleared the ball had he followed it in, though he did have a case in that Armstrong in the middle who also chased the lob did appear to be offside.
Arsenal had more cause to feel aggrieved for the 2nd goal. Clemence clearly fouled Vieira a few yards outside the Arsenal area, and the ball ran on for Armstrong to collect and chase into the area. Petit tripped him just outside the box to earn the first booking of the day, and after Spurs had farted about for ages apparently deciding who would take the free kick, it was Sherwood who eventually hit the telling blow, curling a superb shot round the wall and just inside the far post.
Arsenal at last decided it was time to start playing, and pushed Spurs back for much of the rest of the half. Adams headed over from one Petit corner, and then got his head to another just ahead of Walker at the near post. The ball spun up and dropped right on the goal line, Kanu challenged for it and the ball crossed the line. The ref however blew up for a foul which only he could see, and ruled out what seemed to me a perfectly good goal.
A few minutes later though he couldn't deny Arsenal a goal. Bergkamp was fouled out on the right, Petit clipped in the free kick and found Vieira who had got free of his marker in the middle of the area. His header left Walker helpless as it hit the inside of his right hand post and bounced across just inside the side netting at the opposite post.
From thereon in, Arsenal looked the more likely winners. Early in the 2nd half a superb run by Vieira opened up the Spurs defence, and Bergkamp's flick seemed to have put Ljungberg through, but his touch allowed Campbell to get goal side and crowd him out.
The fun and games really started a few minutes later. Campbell fouled Bergkamp on the halfway line, the ref blew for a foul but Edinburgh carried on and went in studs up on Ljungberg. Not surprisingly the Swede took some exception to this and shoved Edinburgh in the chest, which caused the Spurs fullback to collapse dramatically to the ground clutching his face. Clemence and Armstrong then barged in to confront Ljungberg who was being restrained by Dixon. Meanwhile Keown was having words with Edinburgh who reacted by throwing a flurry of ineffectual (and somewhat effete) punches.
The ref meanwhile was standing back, apparently observing from a distance. His powers of observation however left a little to be desired because when the fracas died down he showed Ljungberg the red card, apparently telling other Arsenal players that it was for a head butt on Ginola. The Frenchman was apparently hit by an object thrown by a Spurs fan in the crowd during the melee, but he was several yards away from Ljungberg at the time. Edinburgh meanwhile got off scot free, and at the end of it all the ref bizarrely restarted the game by giving Spurs a throw-in.
Credit the 10 men of Arsenal then for completely dominating the rest of the game. They struggled to find clear paths through the Tottenham defence though, and on the one occasion they did, Walker denied them with a magnificent double save. Overmars burst through onto a loose ball in the area and fired in a shot which Walker beat out, and the keeper then somehow regained his feet to fling himself at Suker's attempt to force the rebound home. It looked a bad miss by the Croatian at the time, but after looking at the TV replay I think he was surprised by the ball gathering pace as it spun back off Walker, and he ended up having to dig it out from under his feet.
Suker forced another save from Walker some time later when he hooked a well struck shot goalwards from the 18 yard line, but it was straight at the keeper. Don't remember much else in the way of near things, possibly because of all the other things going on. Keown became the 2nd Arsenal player sent off, when he fouled the substitute Dominguez in injury time. Not much question about that one being a yellow card, but his first booking was for a perfectly good tackle on Ginola, which the ref interpreted as a tackle from behind.
Earlier Petit had been substituted after being dazed by a Sherwood elbow in the head which was clear from a hundred yards away at the back of the South stand. Needless to say the ref saw nothing wrong, though he did on several other occasions and ended up with 11 names in his book. I think he dug a hole for himself by letting several things go early on, and suddenly realising he was losing control of the game. At one point early on Leonhardsen shoved him in the chest (in a similar but more aggressive manner than the "push" on Durkin which earned Petit a red card a couple of years ago), without being punished.
Overall it was a bad day for the Gunners. Apart from the loss of 3 points to local rivals, the fallout from discipline problems seems likely to continue. Apart from the first 20 minutes, Arsenal controlled the match and played well enough, if lacking in real penetration, to have won on another day in different circumstances. The crucial thing is going to be the reaction over the next few weeks, particularly in the Vieira-less league games.
Seaman 6.5 Hard to judge him as Spurs only had 2 shots on target all game. Unfortunately they both went in.
Dixon 7.5 Had a fairly good game overall, though he might be held culpable for the 1st goal.
Winterburn 7.5 Typically Nutty performance.
Adams 8.0 Superb as ever.
Keown 7.5 As beligerently committed as ever. Might benefit from a more considered approach at times though.
Petit 7.5 Still looked a little short of match fitness at times though still had a good game, apart from being too easily wound up.
Vieira 8.5 Another great game from the midfield maestro, the only blemish being the yellow card for saying too much to the ref which is his 5th and means an extra match to add to his ban. Apart from that he seemed the coolest head on the pitch.
Ljungberg 7.5 Did a reasonably good and busy job as usual, but then reacted to the provocation.
Overmars 6.0 As poor as normal this season.
Bergkamp 6.5 Still not playing as smoothly as normal and getting overly frustrated as a result.
Kanu 7.0 Struggled to cope with Campbell's marking for much of the game, though ironically I thought he was coming more into it just before he was subbed.
Suker Put himself about a bit, and a bit unlucky with 2 efforts.
Grimandi Did pretty well again in the short time he was on.
Vecellio
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I haven't read this thread but..people do? Just looking at his scores week after week he does not do well. This week just gone: 2/10. I'm beginning to think one could do quite well betting on the polar opposite of his predictions.
ggibbs1971
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Lawro says we will win 3-1!! Probley will be a 1-1 draw now. Luckily all those around us last week didn't make up much ground.
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