Tottenham Supporters' Trust condemns 'sign on' chants at Liverpool

[CoopsieDeadpool]

And please don't use the "Y" word at The Lane we're upsetting Chelsea supporters , oh what a shame!!

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That prick at it again ?

He was fine with this, though ?‍

****!




Or 1 minute 50 seconds into this, where he's joking about living in a Jewish household & purposely dressing his young daughter up, making her hair look like Hitlers ?‍




Or here, talking about looking like a Pikey, and how his 3 year old daughter dresses like an Eastern European Prostitute ?‍




As I said. ****!

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Amazes me that people take this kind of thing so seriously, it’s just a bit of light hearted banter. The world we live in where people can’t take a light hearted dig is so so dull!

I always turn to this little clip of Steve Hughes when people go on about being offended.

He really does absolutely nail it.

 

[Flobadob]

I always turn to this little clip of Steve Hughes when people go on about being offended.

He really does absolutely nail it.

Never seen this. Quality! Haha

 

[mark87]

I always turn to this little clip of Steve Hughes when people go on about being offended.

He really does absolutely nail it.

Love this clip.

 

[IfiHadTheWings]

I find it properly riles up the Everton fans, was at Goodison one year and the song started up and some fella in a Barbour jacket got his wallet out and was furiously flashing it at us.

Still tickles me now.

 

[knowlespurs]

Seems to be kicking off on twitter as one of the trust members tweeted a few years back about scousers eating cats out of the bin, Martin cloake accused them of photoshopping but it's real, lot of pious fuss over nothing

 

[McFlash]

Seems to be kicking off on twitter as one of the trust members tweeted a few years back about scousers eating cats out of the bin, Martin cloake accused them of photoshopping but it's real, lot of pious fuss over nothing

As has been said, we've all said stupid and ignorant stuff in the past, stuff that we'd be embarrassed about today. It's human to learn and grown.
We were just lucky that there wasn't a permanent record of every brain-fart we had! ?

It is funny though, when it happens to someone who's climbed on their mighty steed of righteousness about something. ?

 

[Tucker]

Do people really want our atmospheres in our stadiums to be like the US? Trust me, you don't. The most edgy song you'll get there is "we're better than you", as they don't want to be 'mean'. People around the world love the atmosphere of teams from the UK. Enjoy it while it lasts. This ridiculousness of a minority of over privileged people dictating to us what we can or can't sing has to stop.

But I guess it all comes under the attack on free speech we see now. People will pretend to be offended about absolutely anything.

I do think the needle between fans is an important factor in the atmosphere of football, but there’s a line surely?

People making hissing noises for example, or chanting about Hillsborough, or Munich, I guess that’s just free speech too?

I don’t think the sign on chant is particularly offensive. There’s unemployment everywhere, and like the trust says, London has some of the worst poverty in the country. It does make it feel a little bit rich though, I’m not sure rates of benefit claims are any higher in Liverpool than in London.

I think it’s just word play at the end of the day, but it does all feel a bit out dated and stick in the 80s.

 

[Tucker]

The Supporters Trust are right to condemn this chant. I do not like the fact that it offends Liverpool fans but what is more galling is that it offends a number of our own fans and many of the residents of Tottenham. It should never be forgotten that without Tottenham our club is nothing. It is the area we represent and this chant does the fans no credit.
Liverpool is not the place it was in the 1980s and the poverty in it is no worse than that in some areas of London. There are affluent areas in and around Liverpool and many of the Liverpool fans at the game will have been better off than a lot of our fans. In this context the chant is ridiculous.

Especially all the ones from Surrey.

 

[yiddopaul]

I do think the needle between fans is an important factor in the atmosphere of football, but there’s a line surely?

People making hissing noises for example, or chanting about Hillsborough, or Munich, I guess that’s just free speech too?

I don’t think the sign on chant is particularly offensive. There’s unemployment everywhere, and like the trust says, London has some of the worst poverty in the country. It does make it feel a little bit rich though, I’m not sure rates of benefit claims are any higher in Liverpool than in London.

I think it’s just word play at the end of the day, but it does all feel a bit out dated and stick in the 80s.

You can't compare the the chant about the 'scousers signing on' to a chant say aimed at Hillsborough etc. Not even in the same stratosphere. It's banter. Stop sanitizing the sport. Do you want us all to just politely clap and say 'jolly well done'. As mentioned, people will find something to be offended about whatever happens. It's what these people do. Comedy clubs have been watered down because of them. Thank goodness they didn't exist years ago, else we'd never have heard of Monty Python, Pink Floyd, Sex Pistols (and a thousand other bands and comedians). Some things are offensive of course (anti semetic chanting, hissing, Hillsborough etc) and we'd all agree on that, but that's not what this cult(ure) are trying to do. They dissect every joke, every banter and analyze the shit out of it as if the person(s) that said it actually believed what they were saying, rather than context.

It must be miserable being them. To go through life, joyless, annoyed that others are having fun.

 

[Tucker]

You can't compare the the chant about the 'scousers signing on' to a chant say aimed at Hillsborough etc. Not even in the same stratosphere. It's banter. Stop sanitizing the sport. Do you want us all to just politely clap and say 'jolly well done'. As mentioned, people will find something to be offended about whatever happens. It's what these people do. Comedy clubs have been watered down because of them. Thank goodness they didn't exist years ago, else we'd never have heard of Monty Python, Pink Floyd, Sex Pistols (and a thousand other bands and comedians). Some things are offensive of course (anti semetic chanting, hissing, Hillsborough etc) and we'd all agree on that, but that's not what this cult(ure) are trying to do. They dissect every joke, every banter and analyze the shit out of it as if the person(s) that said it actually believed what they were saying, rather than context.

It must be miserable being them. To go through life, joyless, annoyed that others are having fun.

It’s almost like you didn’t even read what I’ve written.

 

[slartibartfast]

 

[popstar7]

Thank goodness they didn't exist years ago, else we'd never have heard of Monty Python, Pink Floyd, Sex Pistols (and a thousand other bands and comedians).

That’s some pretty exalted company you’re bracketing with a generic chant from the 80s that every London club has thrown at scousers for decades.

I don’t see it as offensive because I can’t imagine any 2022 Liverpool supporter doing anything beyond rolling their eyes when they hear it.

I’m all for needle at games and getting at other supporters. But the idea that this is doing the job is a fucking joke. As is the idea that it’s some kind of free speech issue. Shit, worn out ‘banter’ is just that - shit and worn out.

 

[yiddopaul]

It’s almost like you didn’t even read what I’ve written.

Oh i read it. You dissecting something that is clearly banter and talking about poverty in Liverpool/London and elsewhere. It's not meant to be taken literally. An old tired chant? Probably.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

I guess chanting to tell the referee he's particularly poor at his job must surely have an effect on his self esteem. That needs to stop? I saw a few Liverpool fans giving the Villa Fans the wanker sign after they scored. It's offensive, it's a gesture that's been around for donkeys years and it's time it stopped. There's nothing wrong with masturbating in Birmingham, it's a thriving scene.

So, i'm not allowed to walk alone, I can't bash one out at Villa Park and god knows what else is coming around the corner

We could play this game all night long. I'll even get Lionel Richie in to help.

This is all much ado about nothing, it really is a fuck-all chant, it's sung, lasts literally a few seconds, the scousers probably think 'that again, you cockney* ****s' and everyone moves on to the next chant. But no, the Trust flap their great big gums and the offence soldiers all saddle up. Over this. There's a million and one more pressing issues in football that put this so far in the shade you come back out part Mole.

*fucking offensive

All kidding aside though, we don't live in a perfect world, there's always going to be someone finding a degree of 'offence' with pretty much anything these days. There's a lot of really bad chants that deserve criticism, i'm just not sure that to this degree, this is one of them.

 

[Dennism]

Get off of your soapbox.

Some people, seriously.....

You seriously need to get a grip on reality. If you are quite happy chanting stuff that makes you look like a fool then go ahead and do it. I don’t suppose you have ventured north of the Watford gap ever apart from attending away games. In fact, going by your attitude to poverty, I suspect you haven’t seen much of Tottenham apart from the stadium.

 

[spursfan77]

Seems to be kicking off on twitter as one of the trust members tweeted a few years back about scousers eating cats out of the bin, Martin cloake accused them of photoshopping but it's real, lot of pious fuss over nothing

It was obvious they came out with it because they want to buddy up with other team’s supporters groups and Liverpool’s is one of the most prominent. With usefulness and intelligence levels they should stick to dealing with sausage rolls. Things like this don’t help them at all. No wonder Levy and the club give them such short shrift.

 

[mark87]

Found the only songs that the trust will deem acceptable.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

You seriously need to get a grip on reality. If you are quite happy chanting stuff that makes you look like a fool then go ahead and do it.

haha, I reckon around half of football chants make people look like fools because they are generally behaving in a way that family members and the people they work with wouldn't believe when they are at a game. People can behave like dickheads at football matches. They sing stupid songs, they sing songs to get under opposing fans or players skins, if they go too far, like the racism stuff, it gets acted on and it changes. I'm not sure this is one of those things.

 

[CantSmileWithoutYou]

You seriously need to get a grip on reality. If you are quite happy chanting stuff that makes you look like a fool then go ahead and do it. I don’t suppose you have ventured north of the Watford gap ever apart from attending away games. In fact, going by your attitude to poverty, I suspect you haven’t seen much of Tottenham apart from the stadium.

Au Contraire Blackadder...

My family are from Tottenham and I live in Cheshunt...

My work takes me to wonderful places around the country like Liverpool, Manchester, Burnley , Leeds, Stockton, Birmingham, Cardiff, Glasgow, Edinburgh, York, Scarborough and has done for the past 20 years, all north of the Watford Gap as you put it.

And I am from a working class family and would class myself as such, so don't be so condescending.

I am happy singing songs like that as its banter.

You really need to get off on one and stop being such a lefty social prick.

Ps hope you're not going tomorrow just in case any chants offend you whilst you're sitting eating your prawn sandwich.