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KingNothing

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Analysis: How Spurs perfected Pochettino plan - Jermaine Jenas
"The way Tottenham beat Premier League leaders Manchester City on Sunday was a huge statement of intent by boss Mauricio Pochettino and his players.

It was not just the result that was impressive, it was how they got their 2-0 win. Right from the start, the intensity of their play was frightening, and they carried out Pochettino's game plan to perfection.

I cannot say I was surprised to see how good Spurs were, though.

As I said in my BBC column before the game, I already had them as being title contenders - this was a performance that just gave me more proof that they have got what it takes.

One of the reasons I predicted Tottenham to beat City was because of the timing of the fixture.

Spurs are notoriously slow starters to the season under Pochettino, because he works them so hard early in the campaign to get their fitness levels up.

They always seem to click a couple of months in, however, when that work starts to pay off and that was the case against City.

Seven outfield players that started against City were starting their third game in eight days, including a long midweek trip to Moscow, but they looked fresh because they have entered the phase of the season where they are up to speed.

Tottenham covered more distance on Sunday than they had in any other Premier League game this campaign, and made more sprints than any other top-flight team in 2016-17.

You could tell from the tempo Spurs set from the off that they were going to make it a tough afternoon for City, and another part of the reason they could do that was down to the crowd.

The atmosphere at White Hart Lane was incredible, and it had exactly the effect I would expect.

I have played there when the ground has been buzzing like that, and you feel unstoppable. The fans are so close to the pitch and they help you so much - from some of the post-match tweets I've seen from Spurs players, it made a big difference against City too.

Wanyama a warrior in midfield
Dele Alli said afterwards that Tottenham's plan was to get in City's faces to stop them playing, and they definitely did that. It was the right plan too.

I don't know whether the Spurs players saw Celtic do the same to City in the Champions League on Wednesday, but I watched that game and thought it was the way for Tottenham to go.

Tottenham pressed City not only with intensity, but from the right angles. They forced them into corners to make mistakes, and always had players backing each other up to make sure they won the ball back.

As fit, strong and fast as Spurs are, they still got to a stage in the game where they could not keep it up and City started to find a way through.

All that pressing costs you but despite the fact they were tiring, Spurs held out and became the first team to stop City scoring under Guardiola, as well as being the first team to beat them.

We already know the Tottenham back four is hard to break down, because of their record over the last couple of seasons.

But another sign of how their team is developing was how well summer signing Victor Wanyama played against City.

In his first couple of games for Spurs, I was not convinced by him. I thought he was decent back-up for the existing central midfielders, Eric Dier and Mousa Dembele, nothing more.

Against City, he was immense, and not just for his tackling or the amount of ground he covered.

He was also composed on the ball in the areas where Spurs needed it, and disciplined too. It was the performance Tottenham fans have been waiting for.

Wanyama got a yellow card after half an hour and with Dier on the bench, I would have been tempted to take him off in the second half.

But Pochettino obviously had a conversation with Wanyama, who was sent off three times for Southampton last season, and trusted him enough to keep him on. In itself, that tells you how much he believes in him as a player.

Dembele has only played 74 minutes of Premier League football this season, and he would usually be a huge miss to any team. It is the same for Harry Kane, who is currently sidelined too.

But Spurs showed they have got the squad to cope without them against City. They are only a point behind them at the top of the table now, and after a performance like that, they will believe they belong there."

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/37537378
 

spursfan77

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Forgot to mention. I'm assuming those of you in the ground noticed that the clocks on the Megatrons weren't on. A thought struck me halfway through the first half. Did Pochettino have them turned off on purpose so the players didn't know how long they'd been playing? It's the kind of thing he'd do to prevent them from slackening off.

Then with 20 minutes left of the game I saw vertonghen asking the lino how long was left. So they obviously look at the clocks during the game.
 

Gb160

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Forgot to mention. I'm assuming those of you in the ground noticed that the clocks on the Megatrons weren't on. A thought struck me halfway through the first half. Did Pochettino have them turned off on purpose so the players didn't know how long they'd been playing? It's the kind of thing he'd do to prevent them from slackening off.

Then with 20 minutes left of the game I saw vertonghen asking the lino how long was left. So they obviously look at the clocks during the game.
yeah i noticed that too, i just presumed they were broken due to the fact that they look about 100 years old.
Interesting as i didn't consider it could've been done on purpose.
 

TottenhamLegend

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Forgot to mention. I'm assuming those of you in the ground noticed that the clocks on the Megatrons weren't on. A thought struck me halfway through the first half. Did Pochettino have them turned off on purpose so the players didn't know how long they'd been playing? It's the kind of thing he'd do to prevent them from slackening off.

Then with 20 minutes left of the game I saw vertonghen asking the lino how long was left. So they obviously look at the clocks during the game.
Just assumed they were broken, but an interesting thought. Unlikely IMO, but who knows!
 

hughy

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It annoyed me to hell. I wear a watch 99% of the time but forgot it yesterday. I had to keep sliding my phone out of my pocket every 3 minutes in the second half hoping it was already 4pm...
 

diamondlight

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In the absence of evidence to the contrary, perhaps we're all wrong to assume that one of the two players went against Poch's instructions. Perhaps his instruction is: whoever fancies it takes it.

If that's the case, then we saw two players desperate to take responsibility, desperate to help the team, and desperate to get themselves picked next game. They didn't fall out, and no harm was done. The team strode onwards as though it hadn't happened.

When I think back to some of the shrinking violets spurs have had in their lineup over the years, today's incident doesn't seem so bad.
Looks like this confirms my theory: http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/footbal...no-plays-down-son-lamela-argument_282512.html
 

slartibartfast

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If we are in a title race near the end and we're top with about 7 games to go I hope whoever is behind us has to play AFTER us every bloody game and then inexplicably gets 3 Monday night ko's on the fkin bounce.
No I wont stop bringing it up lol.
That fkin stank of a fix. Stank of it.
I don't think that'll ever happen again, certainly not if its 2 of skys favorites up there.
 

RichieS

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Most baffling was how Otamendi lasted more than half an hour. Two deliberate handballs, two more fouls on Alli and he stamped into a 'tackle' on Son when it was still at 1-0.
Only saw MOTD2, but I thought the one on Alli for which he was booked could have been a red itself. I was surprised they didn't analyse that one afterwards.
 

KILLA_SIN

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Forgot to mention. I'm assuming those of you in the ground noticed that the clocks on the Megatrons weren't on. A thought struck me halfway through the first half. Did Pochettino have them turned off on purpose so the players didn't know how long they'd been playing? It's the kind of thing he'd do to prevent them from slackening off.

Then with 20 minutes left of the game I saw vertonghen asking the lino how long was left. So they obviously look at the clocks during the game.

It's like covering a treadmill with a towel
 

guiltyparty

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F365 winners, four separate mentions:
http://www.football365.com/news/premier-league-winners-and-losers-41

"Winners
Mauricio Pochettino, Victor Wanyama, Toby Alderweireld and every other Tottenham player too
I wrote plenty of words right here, so go read them. The combination of young players, exciting manager, exact strategical plan, high-intensity football and a solid defensive unit is unlikely to produce bad football, but we never quite dreamed it would be this good.

Tottenham and another way?
I found myself re-realising on Sunday afternoon that Tottenham have never paid more than £30m for a player; Manchester City have done so five times in the last 14 months. The Premier League’s full pockets might create shop-a-holic clubs, but throwing huge sums of cash at a problem doesn’t have to be the only way to succeed.

Only four of Tottenham’s 18-man squad cost £13m or more; four of that Manchester City back five did. The difference was staggering.

Tottenham’s fitness
Finally on Tottenham, for it really was a supreme performance, it’s worth taking your hat off once again to the fitness levels they demonstrated against City.

On Wednesday, Celtic harried and hassled Guardiola’s side during the first half, but effectively ran out of steam after 50 minutes. There is no shame in that, but the eventual result relied on some good fortune and wasteful finishing.

Twenty-four hours earlier, Tottenham were winning 1-0 in Moscow. Given the intensity of the work demanded by Pochettino, that the same five midfielders (Erik Lamela, Christian Eriksen, Dele Alli, Heung-Min Son and Victor Wanyama) from Tuesday also played so brilliantly against City is astonishing. Lamela, Eriksen and Wanyama played 90 minutes in both games, for goodness sake.

On Sunday, Tottenham players made 666 sprints, the highest in any Premier League game this season. Their total distance covered was the fifth highest this season, only 1.7km behind top spot. Pochettino might want to buy his conditioning coaches a pint (of green tea, or something, I dunno).

Christian Eriksen
Finally finally on Tottenham, a little point but an important one. Against Middlesbrough last weekend, Christian Eriksen played 89 minutes and covered more ground than any other player on the pitch. On Tuesday, Eriksen played 90 minutes in the Champions League, a competition in which only two players have covered more ground this season. On Sunday, Eriksen played 90 minutes and covered more ground than any other player on the pitch. Don’t let looks be deceiving, this is a player determined to become the complete Pochettino attacking midfielder."
 

wiggo24

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Not a fan of that.

Son is best playing off the left - thought we'd established that.
Janssen would've bullied Stones.
What has Sissoko done to warrant starting this game?
No Dembele.


This could go very wrong imo.

Well I'm clearly a fucking idiot.

Trust in Poch.
 

dagraham

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I'm on holiday and was in the air during the game. Were we as good as everyone is saying?

Also, was Ali playing alongside Wanyama or was Sissoko playing through the middle?
 

Vincent30

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I'm on holiday and was in the air during the game. Were we as good as everyone is saying?

Also, was Ali playing alongside Wanyama or was Sissoko playing through the middle?

Basically Poch told Wanyama to sit there like the great wall of China and don't let anything through whilst the other 5 attacking players pulled a Lance Armstrong and went full power mode. It was beautiful, but the only downside is we will now expect this every week.... Damn you football and the expectations that come with you!!
 

Mr Pink

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I'm on holiday and was in the air during the game. Were we as good as everyone is saying?

Also, was Ali playing alongside Wanyama or was Sissoko playing through the middle?
Sissoko was on the right, Alli more advanced through the middle, Eriksen was deeper.

And yeah, it was an absolutely uber performance, pressed the shit out of them. Wanyama was magnificent.
 

Shadydan

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Awful line up.

Despite not scoring Janssen would battle from the front and bring others in.

Son won't be nearly as effective leading the line.

Not sure what Poch's approach is here. Very surprised Sissokohas got the nod again.

Almost seems like Poch is happy to cede possession and play on counter

Oh dear.
 

slartibartfast

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Was nice to see Ian Wright on MOTD2 praise us up. Could see it stuck in his throat lol.
He is pretty good to be fair.
 

Gaz_Gammon

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I'm on holiday and was in the air during the game. Were we as good as everyone is saying?

Also, was Ali playing alongside Wanyama or was Sissoko playing through the middle?


All of the above, all over the pitch, and mainly rinsing the fuck out of Citeh.
 

spursfan77

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Well I'm clearly a fucking idiot.

Trust in Poch.

You're not the only one though. Lots of times I've thought, what's he up to with this team selection but then we win and it's, oh yeah, he knows what's up. It's got the the point where I dare not question it, because when i don't, we don't win.

If you think about it, he adopts something different each game for a player. It's why he's a superb manager and growing in confidence and ability by the month. He's willing to chuck little tactical changes in which really make such a difference to the result of the game.
 
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