US College Football thread

[Barmy_in_Palmy]

I guess choosing not to score with 5 minutes left could be considered rubbing it even more than scoring would.

 

[Barmy_in_Palmy]

UCLA could make the PAC-12 championship game with a 6-6 record, USC 21 Oregon 14.

 

[Barmy_in_Palmy]

31-14 Oregon are geting Oregoned.

Gutted USC lost to Standford, they could have been 9-1, would have been brilliant if they ended up top of the PAC-12 table without being able to play the championship game. Kiffins finally making a mark on the team after Carroll let it rust.

 

[LSUY]

UCLA could make the PAC-12 championship game with a 6-6 record, USC 21 Oregon 14.

With Arizona State already losing 14-0 it looks like UCLA will make it to the championship game as they have the head to head tie breaker over them.

 

[Barmy_in_Palmy]

Can UCLA sack Nueheisel at 6-6 if they play in the Championship game? insane really considering 2-3 weeks ago his job security was level with Nutts. Still don't see how 6-6 can buy him more time.

 

[Barmy_in_Palmy]

Fuck Yeah - FG misses

USC 38 - Oregon 35

fucking heart's going nuts

 

[Barmy_in_Palmy]

Oklahoma blow it with 8 secs left.

BCS Doomsday has arrived.

 

[ealingspur]

Revenge for '07 & '09.

It was a damned if you, damned if you don't moment. If LSU scored again then the media would be whining about Miles running up the score.



He'll take the job, it's his dream job. While at Utah and Florida he had a clause in his contract that would allow him to leave if Ohio State came calling.

He wont emulate what he did in Fl, because there is no tim tebow.

 

[ealingspur]

I cant believe I feel asleep during the first quarter of Oregon USC. Watching these games in paris is tough cheese for me.

but all in all - LOL.

 

[LSUY]

Robert Griffin III for Heisman. His passer rating, completion percentage, touchdowns, yardage and interceptions are all better than Andrew Luck.

Next week is going to be interesting. If Auburn beat 'Bama (which could happen as regardless of how bad Auburn are they will step it up in the Iron Bowl) and Arkansas beat LSU, we could have an Arkansas-Virginia Tech national championship game (assuming VT beats what will most likely be a ranked Virginia team & then wins the ACC championship game).

 

[Barmy_in_Palmy]

He wont emulate what he did in Fl, because there is no tim tebow.

He could always recruit a quarterback who knows how to throw the ball instead.

 

[ealingspur]

Robert Griffin III for Heisman. His passer rating, completion percentage, touchdowns, yardage and interceptions are all better than Andrew Luck.

Next week is going to be interesting. If Auburn beat 'Bama (which could happen as regardless of how bad Auburn are they will step it up in the Iron Bowl) and Arkansas beat LSU, we could have an Arkansas-Virginia Tech national championship game (assuming VT beats what will most likely be a ranked Virginia team & then wins the ACC championship game).

Arkansas are a great team. It's a shame that they have to play LSU and Bama in the season. As far as I'm concerned, it would be great to end the season with top 3 teams in the rankings being SEC.

I agree that if they beat LSU, they deserve the National Championship, and due to how late the loss would come in the season, it would probably discount LSU. You're right, Auburn could well step up on senior day, and that would be great to see, but to be honest, I can't see past an All-SEC match up for the BCS.

Virginia tech have only played 2 ranked teams, (21) Georgia Tech and (13) Clemson, and they lost one of them, where they were trounced. I dont think they are in the race at all.

It'll be hard to distinguish between bama, lsu and arkansas is ark win, as they would have all beaten each other and beaten everyone else.

Re: Heisman, RGIII is probably the best QB in the league, but I would give it to Mathieu. The guy is a beast, and Heisman is not an exclusively an offensive trophy (or is it? I'm not actually sure about this).

 

[ealingspur]

He could always recruit a quarterback who knows how to throw the ball instead.

Stupid point. Tebow's passing stats were great against SEC teams.

2007 - 3286
2008 - 2747
2009 - 2895

Andrew Luck against Pac 12 defenses.
2009 - 2,575
2010 - 3,338
2011 (so far) - 2,680

Talking out of your arse.

 

[LSUY]

I agree that if they beat LSU, they deserve the National Championship, and due to how late the loss would come in the season, it would probably discount LSU. You're right, Auburn could well step up on senior day, and that would be great to see, but to be honest, I can't see past an All-SEC match up for the BCS.

Virginia tech have only played 2 ranked teams, (21) Georgia Tech and (13) Clemson, and they lost one of them, where they were trounced. I dont think they are in the race at all.

It'll be hard to distinguish between bama, lsu and arkansas is ark win, as they would have all beaten each other and beaten everyone else.

Virginia Tech still have a chance, simply because they could be one of the few left standing as a one loss team. If LSU and Stanford slip up then I think VT is in.

Oklahoma are out of it but they still should beat Oklahoma State because their offense is slightly better. If LSU lose they will probably get discounted due to it being such a late loss & with missing out on a Championship game they will be forgotten, just like Michigan were a few years back. 'Bama can't overtake LSU because LSU has the head-to-head tie breaker so the BCS can't invite the 3rd best team in the SEC West. Stanford didn't look great against Oregon and Cal & still have Notre Dame and then a PAC-12 championship game, they could lose either game.

That leaves Virginia Tech, Boise State and Houston. The Cougars won't go because they play in the Conference USA and haven't played a ranked team. Boise State shouldn't go because they lost to TCU, who Baylor and SMU showed are woeful and they've only played one ranked team in Georgia. If Virginia Tech beats what will be a ranked Virginia team and then a still ranked Clemson in the ACC Championship game then I can't see anyone else getting the nod.

 

[Barmy_in_Palmy]

Stupid point. Tebow's passing stats were great against SEC teams.

2007 - 3286
2008 - 2747
2009 - 2895

Andrew Luck against Pac 12 defenses.
2009 - 2,575
2010 - 3,338
2011 (so far) - 2,680

Talking out of your arse.

Your the one talking out your arse, if you anything about Florida other than Tebow played their you would know that Urban Meyer went unbeaten with Utah and had they not been in a non BCS AQ conference they would have been ranked #1 and play for the National Championship. The only difference between Utah and Florida was the conference they played in.

Secondly Meyer made Tebow more than Tebow ever made Meyer. Meter has a history of creating a system where quarterbacks play above themselves and look better than they are. On Florida it was Tebow on Utah it was Alex Smith. If he goes to Ohio State it will be someone else.

 

[Barmy_in_Palmy]

Boise State can't play in it because they can't win the MWC.

Houston won't because of their conference.

Whoever wins the SEC West still has to play Georgia in the Georgia Dome, now if God forbid, Georgia won then Georgia would go to the Sugar Bowl and then only one team from the SEC West could qualify and would most likely not be the team that won it.

Now if Clemson won the ACC title game then I think that could let back in Oklahoma state as long as they won the rest of their games.

 

[ealingspur]

Your the one talking out your arse, if you anything about Florida other than Tebow played their you would know that Urban Meyer went unbeaten with Utah and had they not been in a non BCS AQ conference they would have been ranked #1 and play for the National Championship. The only difference between Utah and Florida was the conference they played in.

Secondly Meyer made Tebow more than Tebow ever made Meyer. Meter has a history of creating a system where quarterbacks play above themselves and look better than they are. On Florida it was Tebow on Utah it was Alex Smith. If he goes to Ohio State it will be someone else.

My comment "you're talking out of your arse" was to your "get a qb who can pass".

I know all about Meyer's success, and not just that Tebow played "their". I said, however, that he will not be able to emulate what he did for the gators (win 2 national championships and a couple of bowl games), because he won't have Tebow. I think that's a fair statement to make, when you have a player that is widely regarded as at least one of the best college football has ever seen, and then around him, a team of SEC quality such as Reggie Nelson etc. Ohio state are not on that recruiting level. The Big Ten don't have that pulling power, that conference depth etc, at least not anymore.

Sure, Meyer is a great coach (who quit for health reasons, so all this is more likely than not a moot argument). I also note that the season after Tebow left was a disaster for Urban.

In any event, I hope he does take the Ohio State job. I think he is a great asset to CFB, he's teams are great to watch.

Btw, BiP, I'm sure you've mentioned it before, but who do you follow?

 

[ealingspur]

Boise State can't play in it because they can't win the MWC.

Houston won't because of their conference.

Whoever wins the SEC West still has to play Georgia in the Georgia Dome, now if God forbid, Georgia won then Georgia would go to the Sugar Bowl and then only one team from the SEC West could qualify and would most likely not be the team that won it.

Now if Clemson won the ACC title game then I think that could let back in Oklahoma state as long as they won the rest of their games.

I wonder who Houston will get in their bowl game. Your point about what would happen if Georgia won is very valid, and pretty interesting.

I think the fact that Oklahoma state lost to Iowa state hurts them. It's who you lose to also.

 

[Barmy_in_Palmy]

USC

As much as I like to think we are back, we have yet to take the hit for loss of scholarships yet, Barkley will be back next season but it will be the next two seasons in which we will suffer recruiting wise which will keep us down.

I would go as far as saying historically Ohio State and Michigan would be bigger than Florida and have the same pull as them. With Meyer thre they will be able to recruit nationally and I think Meyer will be able to recruit the state of Florida well because of his success he had with Florida.

Personally I thought Ohio State had a lot of hype under Tressel and while I think the SEC is a little overrated (still strongest conference) I think the Big 10 is really overrated and would be weaker than the PAC-12 and the Big 12.

 

[Barmy_in_Palmy]

My terrible and far to early guess at BCS matchups

National Championship - LSU vs VT
Rose Bowl - Oregon vs Michigan State
Fiesta Bowl - Oklahoma State vs Alabama
Sugar Bowl - Houston vs Oklahoma
Orange Bowl - Stanford vs Louisville


Which is why the Big East will lose their right to a BCS game, they have no ranked teams.