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Lilbaz

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Not sure why you feel the need to keep replying in that case.

Is the figure in the tweet the net value of transfer fees? What about wages paid to players?

I answered because you asked me a question. If you want to know where our spare money has gone in the last 10 years here:

 

Naj

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I answered because you asked me a question. If you want to know where our spare money has gone in the last 10 years here:



What spare money? We were supposed to have a -ve net spend? It seems like you agree with me after all.
 

Lilbaz

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What spare money? We were supposed to have a -ve net spend? It seems like you agree with me after all.

Money not used in the day to day running of the club. It might help if you read it.

I never disagreed with you. Although you are wrong that because we have borrowed we have a net spend as the last financials showed that we had more money in the bank than what we owed in loans hence no net spend.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jun/06/premier-league-finances-club-guide-2016-17

Net debt Stated as a positive, £15m more cash in the bank than the bank loans of £185m
 

Naj

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Money not used in the day to day running of the club. It might help if you read it.

I never disagreed with you. Although you are wrong that because we have borrowed we have a net spend as the last financials showed that we had more money in the bank than what we owed in loans hence no net spend.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jun/06/premier-league-finances-club-guide-2016-17

Net debt Stated as a positive, £15m more cash in the bank than the bank loans of £185m

So tell me, where is this £26.25m surplus represented?
 

Lilbaz

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So tell me, where is this £26.25m surplus represented?

You seem to be arguing about something i've not said.

All i said was that i think that the tweet was meant to be regarding player transfers. This is because people on the internet often use net spend when refering to how much the club has spent on players. It was used so often on here that people got the hump with it.

Now i don't care about the tweet as it is meaningless. My posts have just been to try and give you a better understanding. As my last post showed at the end of our last financial year we had £200m in the bank. £15m more than we have borrowed from the banks. £100m was probably used to pay off some outstanding debt that was due in december the rest has most likely been used to build the stadium but we wont know for sure till the next financials.

Do yourself a favour, stop trying to argue with people. If you ask a question read the answer the person has given. It might save you a lot of greif.
 
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jt hotspur

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It's not an exact science.

Look at our first 11 or 15 and what we paid for them and what they are worth now. Look what we bring in from our failures. We don't lose a lot on our failures and our successes are all bought for around £12-£25m and now worth quadruple that and more. Lloris, Trippier, Alderweireld, Son, Eriksen, Vertongen... need I continue?
They are worth nothing unless u sell them. Levy's plan is to move every one on at some point. Spurs is a business first.
 

southlondonyiddo

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I answered because you asked me a question. If you want to know where our spare money has gone in the last 10 years here:




So since 2008 we have paid out 20% in dividends (profits to shareholders) as opposed to 11% on strengthening the 1st XI

To a supporter like me that split doesn't add up especially when you open the trophy cabinet
 

Lilbaz

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So since 2008 we have paid out 20% in dividends (profits to shareholders) as opposed to 11% on strengthening the 1st XI

To a supporter like me that split doesn't add up especially when you open the trophy cabinet

Look again we paid 1% in dividends. 20% to increase cash balance (in preperation for the start of the stadium build).
 

nailsy

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Just seen we are getting £3.4m compensation for players in World Cup and £15m for the international champions cup. That’s a handy £20m for the kitty. One could say we are coining it in.

Have you got a link to that?

Not sure why you feel the need to keep replying in that case.

Is the figure in the tweet the net value of transfer fees? What about wages paid to players?

Most people talking about net spend in reference to football will be talking about transfer fees.
 

coys200

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Have you got a link to that?



Most people talking about net spend in reference to football will be talking about transfer fees.

Not got a link but both were quite widely reported on twitter yesterday. If you do a search sure they will come up.
 

shelfboy68

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So since 2008 we have paid out 20% in dividends (profits to shareholders) as opposed to 11% on strengthening the 1st XI

To a supporter like me that split doesn't add up especially when you open the trophy cabinet
Football is such a global business now that our board and owner are only interested in the sound and smell of cold hard cash, so opening up a empty trophy cabinet is of secondary concern to people in their position and most clubs are like that now.
 

Neon_Knight_

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So we still pay the lowest wages as % of turnover (42%). Do we expect this % to increase or stay roughly the same over the coming years?
 

am_yisrael_chai

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Where is the stadium naming rights deal ? If Levy haggles so much he doesn’t get a sponsor then I can understand why we are having problems with transfers. Get the right deal and it should pay for most of the stadium which would mean all of that extra matchday revenue is available for the squad. Given there has been no announcement yet my read is that means either Levy hasn’t snagged a sponsor (criminally incompetent for a CEO) or he has landed such an amazing deal that we can’t announce it because selling clubs will know we are mega flush.
 

coys200

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Not sure how most naming rights are structured. But unless they pay a lump sum then £15-20m really ain’t making much difference a year. Of course it’s a tidy sum but we are nearly making same off pre season tour. It’s been stated many times the naming rights is not crucial for financing stadium. So why rush make sure you get the best deal if it’s lasting 20 years. As said unless they are plonking down a lump sum it will have minimum impact. You also have no idea how it may be tied in with future plans to sell. What if Zuckerberg rolls up in 2 years and wants to call it Facebook stadium. Maybe levy wants to keep his options open as it could devalue a future sale.Also find it really weird how desperate some people are to give our name away.
 

RichieS

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Not sure how most naming rights are structured. But unless they pay a lump sum then £15-20m really ain’t making much difference a year. Of course it’s a tidy sum but we are nearly making same off pre season tour. It’s been stated many times the naming rights is not crucial for financing stadium. So why rush make sure you get the best deal if it’s lasting 20 years. As said unless they are plonking down a lump sum it will have minimum impact. You also have no idea how it may be tied in with future plans to sell. What if Zuckerberg rolls up in 2 years and wants to call it Facebook stadium. Maybe levy wants to keep his options open as it could devalue a future sale.Also find it really weird how desperate some people are to give our name away.
I agree with you that it's not crucial but if we get a deal for say £20m per year for 20 years, that's £400m of guaranteed income against the loan repayments.
 

Lighty64

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Grealish has more potential than Richarlison IMO. Richarlison barely got a goal or an assist in the second half of the season.
Grealish was arguably the best player in his league in the same period.

Why would you prefer Richarlison? Because he is Brazilian?

the thing is, and I used to get angry with the Paulinho abuse. When a player joins any club from Brazil, they join at the end of their football season. so they usually join after a gruelling season to then start a different league, a different culture and to be honest do well to still be fit by Xmas.

if Richarlison isn't a hit this season, I really expect him to be the season after. Paulinho suffered with all that was going on with AvB and hardly played, and when he did he never played in the same position. I expect he also struggled to climatize in England which should be taken in to consideration.
 

Sp3akerboxxx

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Where is the stadium naming rights deal ? If Levy haggles so much he doesn’t get a sponsor then I can understand why we are having problems with transfers. Get the right deal and it should pay for most of the stadium which would mean all of that extra matchday revenue is available for the squad. Given there has been no announcement yet my read is that means either Levy hasn’t snagged a sponsor (criminally incompetent for a CEO) or he has landed such an amazing deal that we can’t announce it because selling clubs will know we are mega flush.

You've contradicted yourself in the first two lines mate. You say Levy "haggles so much he doesn't get a sponsor", and then say "Get the right deal and it should pay for most of the stadium". So you want Levy to get the "right deal" but not negotiate too much? That seems like a borderline oxymoron to me.
 
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