What Our Opponents' Fans Are Saying About Us 21/22

[ButchCassidy]

It didnt do Skipp any harm though. He's still only 19 but to be fair I haven't followed him to know where he is with his development. I just don't think Ligue 1 is the best step before the Premier League. We don't have great history with players there. At least with the championship you acclimatise to the English game and he's capable of starting regularly which is what a young player needs. I'm not sure what PL club would start a 19 year old in their midfield.

He’s been playing for a team that’s beem struggling badly all year. We saw what a loan for a Championship contender did for Skippy’s confidence. Winning is a habit and going to a team expected to win each week could really help

I’ll leave it at this because we are getting pretty off-topic at this point. Oliver Skipp had played less than 300 minutes of PL football when we sent him to Norwich, often as a sub in the dying minutes. He needed to go somewhere consistently to adapt to playing consistently at the senior level against professionals, not youth players. Pape Sarr, though definitely a raw talent, has played two full seasons of senior football in one of the top 5 leagues in the world, against some of the best midfielders who exist. If he’s not ready for Spurs (which is very possible) he needs a loan like Sess or Gil to a better team in a better league. He’s at a very different stage of development than Skipp with different needs.

The Championship is a good level for youth players to adjust to playing against pros. It is not a magical place where you send technical, talented senior players to get hacked down at Stoke twice a week and then they somehow come back looking like Yaya Toure. If he needs strength, you put him on a diet and strength training plan. If he needs skill and development, you send him to the best team in the world where he will play consistently.

 

[SecretLemonadeDrinker]

Ah, the good old Where Our Players and Our Opponents’ Players Might Go On Loan thread……..

An SC classic.

 

[t79boy]

Deluded? Saka has 172 minutes per goal contribution this season. Kulusevski 109. And that's as a young player in a new league. Saka is great, but he's not better than Kulusevski, and there is no way he would start consistently over Kulusevski if they were in the same team.

Stats don't tell it all, of course, but Kulusevski fits our team and the way we play to perfection.

playing devils advocate , those stats are misleading IMO ..Saka plays in an worse attack than ours … they collectively score less … so his stats as a winger will reflect that …

 

[spurs9]

playing devils advocate , those stats are misleading IMO ..Saka plays in an worse attack than ours … they collectively score less … so his stats as a winger will reflect that …

Or do we collectively score more because of Deki?

After Deki - 38 in 17 (2.24 gpg)
Before Deki - 26 in 20 (1.3 gpg)
Before Deki Conte only - 17 in 9 (1.88 gpg)

Arsenal - 56 in 37 (1.51 gpg)

 

[AssaTM]

Sort it out please... ?‍

 

[Gb160]

Sort it out please... ?‍

Yeah ffs lads.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

OK, I think people have had enough now, so if you want to carry on discussing players, get over to that players thread and stop spamming this one please.

 

[ShelfWatcher]

If you enjoy reading sheer deluded nonsense about us, she wore a yellow ribbon latest is a cracker ?
It's available on News Now, Spurs on brink of crisis
I look forward to similar articles from him about why the French won the Battle of Waterloo and how Chemical Ali always told the truth ?

 

[SonicSarr]

If you enjoy reading sheer deluded nonsense about us, she wore a yellow ribbon latest is a cracker ?
It's available on News Now, Spurs on brink of crisis
I look forward to similar articles from him about why the French won the Battle of Waterloo and how Chemical Ali always told the truth ?

I read that and thought it must have been a parody ?

 

[BromleySpur]

Our issue was always inexperience under Poch and arsenal are facing the same issues. That's why I have been fairly confident that they won't finish the season strong with the pressure of top 4. They have too many young players they rely on to get over the line. Saka for example is already a key player but we saw in the penalty shootout he's not ready for the pressure yet. Barca for example have the likes of Pedri and Fati who are key players but they still have Pique, Alba, Busquets and even Alves is back. They've been there and done it all which makes the world of difference.

I think we've entered a point now where we have the experience with players who have grown with the club. Players who have got top 4 multiple seasons, played a CL final, Carabao Cup final and challenged for the league title. Having Lloris, Dier, Davies, Son and Kane around still is so valuable. Sure you need to look after the future too but we've had to develop the experience because we've neglected experienced signings too much. It means we've had to wait for players we signed (or developed in the case of Kane) to gain that experience with us. The thing that's really missing is a couple of players who have won titles. Get a couple of signings like that along with some more young talent and I think we can win things under Conte.

Wenger did great at arsenal but he did inherit an experienced defence which was rock solid. He started out with counter attacking football built off that defence. He wasn't able to rebuild that defence as they retired though. His biggest weakness was building a solid defence which started to catch up with him. He also struck gold with some world class French players at a time when France dominated world football. Once they went he really struggled, particularly in central midfield where they lacked physical presence. I still see that soft centre under Arteta and lack of leaders. I mean they stripped Xhaka of the captaincy at one point, stripped Auba and sold him and have Xhaka captain again. He's not exactly the most dependable person for the job though.

We have the better balance of the 2 clubs. We still have early to mid 20s players , late teens to early 20s on loan along with the late 20s to 30s players. I'm sure Levy will want to continue to spend on younger players but hopefully he gets (or allows Paratici to get) the winners Conte needs too. I do feel there's some of those either out of contract or running down their contracts this summer though. I'm sure he'll be happy to sign off on them if they're not too expensive. Spend the biggermoney on more players like Romero, Bentancur and Kulusevski but pick up some experience too along with them.

Lauren, Campbell, Toure and Cole wasn't a terribly bad defence to replace Dixon, Adams, Bould/Keown and Winterburn.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

If you enjoy reading sheer deluded nonsense about us, she wore a yellow ribbon latest is a cracker ?
It's available on News Now, Spurs on brink of crisis
I look forward to similar articles from him about why the French won the Battle of Waterloo and how Chemical Ali always told the truth ?

 

[djhotspur]

Jesys, has anyone seen the article written by an arsenal fan saying we are in crisis mode, that we have zero money and that our squad is too old and 4th just papers over the cracks

 

[King of the Lane]

Jesys, has anyone seen the article written by an arsenal fan saying we are in crisis mode, that we have zero money and that our squad is too old and 4th just papers over the cracks

Nope. Nobody mentioned it 4 posts above yours so this is brand new information ?

 

[djhotspur]

Nope. Nobody mentioned it 4 posts above yours so this is brand new information ?

Lol my bad wasn’t reading

 

[jurgen]

It’s a stretch to call that an article. Poorly researched blog post by an author with limited critical thinking skills, yes - article, no.

 

[gio747]

HELP (and I appreciate there's a thread for it, though I've looked, failed ?‍)

What advertiser in their ridiculously overpaid job, along with their equally overpaid executives, looked at this advert and thought "yep, that's good & not at all a bit Jimmy Saville"

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What’s wrong with you?

 

[Col_M]

HELP (and I appreciate there's a thread for it, though I've looked, failed ?‍)

What advertiser in their ridiculously overpaid job, along with their equally overpaid executives, looked at this advert and thought "yep, that's good & not at all a bit Jimmy Saville"

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what an I missing here?

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

What’s wrong with you?

Science hasn't yet advanced to a point where this can be answered.

what an I missing here?

My messed up mind, Colonel. In the picture, the little girl is reaching up with her right arm.

But the angle the pic is taken from, looking downward. It looks like someone else's forearm &, well, they've got something in their hand (but it's the little girls lapel on her top, which I didn't realise until now ?)

 

[McFlash]

Science hasn't yet advanced to a point where this can be answered.




My messed up mind, Colonel. In the picture, the little girl is reaching up with her right arm.

But the angle the pic is taken from, looking downward. It looks like someone else's forearm &, well, they've got something in their hand (but it's the little girls lapel on her top, which I didn't realise until now ?)

More to the point, clear your fucking notifications man!
219? That would really mess with my brain. ?

 

[tommyt]

More to the point, clear your fucking notifications man!
219? That would really mess with my brain. ?

Showing off his likes the ****