What the hell do we care

[striebs]

A few years back we went through a long Summer after the departure of David J Pleat .

I've got a lot of time for Pleaty and think he played his part in propelling us on our way .

Can still remember punching the air in my MkII Granada when the radio anounced that Spurs , managerless for about 5 months had just appointed Santini .

Then came Arneson and also Jol and the upwards curve got steeper .

With BMJ there was a certain magic of Spurs emerging from the Crysalis .

The rich clubs have gone off on a pointless unsustainable tangent which leads nowhere no matter how much hype Sky have got left to throw at it .

I am really happy we have recruited Souleymane Coulibaly and have some real talent coming through our academy .

Make no mistake about it , Sandro is not a one off , someone at Spurs (other than Harry and Levy) knows what they are doing .

Spending money we haven't got - what the hell do we care .

I would be ecstatic if we could become known as the No1 destination for talent .

 

[Spurger King]

Good post...though we're a bit of a way off being that. We've signed some great young players in the last few years, but we've also signed plenty of players that have vanished.

After Bostock we seem to have acquired a reputation in some sections of the media and the general public as being a bit of a black hole for up and coming young talented players.

Ceballos and Coulibaly could be fantastic for us, but unlike some clubs (such as the gooners) we don't tend to give those players as many opportunites in the first-team. We don't take as many risks, and in my opinion players at that age need to be given their chance in big games...and I don't mean 30 seconds in injury time.

We definitely seem to be on the ball and ahead of the pack when it comes to signing the latest 'next big thing' but the confidence of the scouts simply isn't being carried over to the management, and this, coupled with the amount of talent in the squad (strikers not included), makes it incredibly difficult for these players to get a chance to develop by being thrown in at the deep end.

 

[beats1]

Good post...though we're a bit of a way off being that. We've signed some great young players in the last few years, but we've also signed plenty of players that have vanished.

After Bostock we seem to have acquired a reputation in some sections of the media and the general public as being a bit of a black hole for up and coming young talented players.

Ceballos and Coulibaly could be fantastic for us, but unlike some clubs (such as the gooners) we don't tend to give those players as many opportunites in the first-team. We don't take as many risks, and in my opinion players at that age need to be given their chance in big games...and I don't mean 30 seconds in injury time.

We definitely seem to be on the ball and ahead of the pack when it comes to signing the latest 'next big thing' but the confidence of the scouts simply isn't being carried over to the management, and this, coupled with the amount of talent in the squad (strikers not included), makes it incredibly difficult for these players to get a chance to develop by being thrown in at the deep end.

Well this season thats going to change imo, especially after they see Caulker and co.

 

[stemark44]

On the one hand we can't afford the top players and its a great idea to bring in promising young players.
However with youth comes inconsistency and we need to be consistant to be successful.

 

[Azrael]

However with youth comes inconsistency and we need to be consistant to be successful.

I don't think anyone is suggesting we field 11 youth players every fixture. :roll:

 

[Spurz]

The seniors arent showing any consistency either so I dont see why we shouldnt use the younger players. At least they will be eager to proof and show no fear.

 

[StartingPrice]

Good post...though we're a bit of a way off being that. We've signed some great young players in the last few years, but we've also signed plenty of players that have vanished.

After Bostock we seem to have acquired a reputation in some sections of the media and the general public as being a bit of a black hole for up and coming young talented players.

Ceballos and Coulibaly could be fantastic for us, but unlike some clubs (such as the gooners) we don't tend to give those players as many opportunites in the first-team. We don't take as many risks, and in my opinion players at that age need to be given their chance in big games...and I don't mean 30 seconds in injury time.

We definitely seem to be on the ball and ahead of the pack when it comes to signing the latest 'next big thing' but the confidence of the scouts simply isn't being carried over to the management, and this, coupled with the amount of talent in the squad (strikers not included), makes it incredibly difficult for these players to get a chance to develop by being thrown in at the deep end.

I'm not sure that that is true, Spurg. The club have went out its way in creating new jobs, like this continuity thang, to ensure a smooth transition from academy right through to first team in order to maximize player potential. Daniel Levy has been establishing innovative club relationships strategically around the globe, and we have the state-of-the-art training facility under construction.

Levy is investing a huge amount of time and money on this. I believe that he identified our biggest single problem in regard to being competitive at the top - viz. we can't match the revenues of the top clubs, so we will never match them by spending alone. Indeed, as I am sure you will remember, we went through a whole cycle where we brought players of good quality, at a reasonable amount of expense, but just slightly past their best years, and filled the squad out with mediocrity because the funds were exhausted getting the good players in. Obviously, we neve matched the transfer fees of the top clubs, so we rarely acquired any top players in their prime. And we ended up with a team capable of the odd good game, but whose season was usually over by Christmas, if lucky (because sometimes we hovered dangerously the wrong side of mid-table).

By following his strict wage policy, Levy has ensured that even the lesser squad members are of reasonable quality, which means that even with injuries we maintain a standard of performance, and our average league position has improved considerably because of it.

But the lynchpin of his policy is in the identification, acquisition and advancement of young talent. Like I said, he has spent a great deal of time and energy on it. I really don't think he'll be happy if it isn't producing the players, or if it is clearly producing the players but the manager isn't giving them the chance.

Well this season thats going to change imo, especially after they see Caulker and co.

And this.
And let's not forget Danny Rose and his wondergoal against the Goons.
And, regarding John Bostock: I think the main problem is that Ramos/Comolli stated publicly that they were buying Bostock to integrate into the 1st team sooner rather than later. That gave unrealistic expectations about the lad. Whatever he is or isn't, he wasn't ready for the 1st team at that age. So, folk are discounting him because Ramos/Comolli raised expectations to a wholly unrealistic level, which has led to this belief that he has failed and disappeared. It is noticeably that no matter what 'Arry has done with him, he hasn't just got rid.
I still kinda hope he still has a future and will have an amazing break-out season soon :up:

 

[There's always next year]

Whoever is deciding the strategy, there appears to be a shift to developing youth. Bostock, Rose, Livermore, Caulker and Walker have all recently signed new longer term contracts. This coupled with Coulibaly and Ceballos signings point to developing youth at the expense of paying over inflated and unreachable fees for established stars.

 

[myhartlane]

"Can still remember punching the air in my MkII Granada when the radio anounced that Spurs , managerless for about 5 months had just appointed Santini "

Quality, I like it! If you tried that in a modern motor, you'd break your wrist!

I agree with your tribute to Pleaty. He seems to have had a lot of stick from people on the forum over the years but I think that his contribution is often underrated.

 

[stemark44]

I don't think anyone is suggesting we field 11 youth players every fixture. :roll:

Say what you see...........it's good but its not right!