Whats happening with Keane

[don1]

i cant believe the way people have turned against keane its unreal

 

[Legend10]

Seem to remember Defoe having a bit of stomp, kicking the odd water bottle, having a pop at Martin Jol?

But that doesn't get mentioned because he's everyone's golden boy!

The same golden boy that would have happily waited until his contract was down to zip before pocketing a fuckload of money. The same golden boy that handed in transfer requests at Charlton and West Ham at inextricably stupid times.

Not being funny, but I'd more concerned about JD's ability to turn and have a sulk than Robbie Keane's - who has in fact always come back from a so-called low with a huge run of goals and form.

Why people still doubt his ability to do this is beyond me.

What a load of nonsense!

Defoe handled himself far better than most when he was out of the side. Also his popularity with the other players has always been pretty evident. The way the players reacted towards him during the famagusta game is strong evidence of this. I think through all the times when he wasn't getting games I can only remember 1 reaction which when he was subbed against Boro (I think) when he was clearly the best player on the pitch and what he done as a kid at charlton and West ham is pre his Spurs days.

If he would have happlily waited until his contract had ran out, which you state, then why didn't he? Because he wasn't interested in doing that was he, otherwise he would have just done it.

Keane on the other hand behaved like a 3 year old spoilt brat at Birmingham, attacking a water bottle (about the only thing he would tackle) after being an unused substitute. From that moment on Jol lost all bollocks with him!

So you have a dig at Defoe for running his contract down to nothing which he didn't do! And in other threads you defend Keane for saying I'm Tottenham for life and then by all accounts behaving like a spoilt brat again a few weeks later to get a transfer. something he did do!

Its the thing that pisses me off the most about Keane, the load of bollocks that some people talk about him! Tottenham legend and all that, defending his blatant cowardice etc! if he's a Tottenham legend then fuck knows what our real legends of years gone by are?

He's an ok player who sulks like a brat and has a set of bollocks smaller than a couple of Birdseye garden peas!

If he stays then fine good luck to him and i hope produces the goods when called upon, if he goes then fucking good riddance, let him go and mince about running away from tackles for somebody else!

 

[Mr-T]

Really? Because that's just wrong.

As for the rest of it. I'm saying it's brought up about Keane 20 times as much as it is about Defoe. I'm not saying either are perfect, but one gets far more stick (unnecessarily) than the other.

2006/7 season Keane scored 22, Defoe scored 18 - yet Defoe was 2nd choice to Keane which ultimately led to Defoe leaving (yet he said himself he didn't want to leave).

I wouldn't say either are perfect too. However we all know that the Berba/Keane partnership was more valuable than the players were individually and I reckon (for better or worse) its Defoe and Crouch as our main pairing next season.

 

[Seanson]

I do hate how everyone blasts Keane for "sulking" or "shouting at players", it's called passion and it's something all good players have.

The one thing you get with Keane if he's benched is a man with fire in his belly, he'll sulk, kick up a fuss and do his best to get himself back on that pitch. And when he does he shows the manager just what they're missing out on (Villa Away 05/06).

I know the guy hasnt performed like the old Keano since his return but why not judge every player when pre-season is done and we get to see the new Redknapp Tottenham in the 2009/10 season?

:clap: Keane is here to stay and score.

 

[3Dnata]

All these posts about "pointy shouty bloke"completely miss the point.
Keane wouldn't get in trouble for that sort of behaviour it is why Harry took him back to Tottenham, Harry said as much himself.
He said we were too nice, at the moment Keane is the only person with that kind of aggresion/passion at the club,I can't imagine Harry after signing him, making him club captain would let him go without either replacing him as a striker and also replacing those features which so many on these boards don't like or understand.

 

[Bingy]

Keano is a better 'all round' player than Defoe...except he is not English...and 'wide boy Harry' does not appear to see beyond that fact? Crouch has never done anything of note...and his 'Bean pole' physique is well out of date. Pav is a better 'all round' player...and a full years pre-season should allow us to see just how good he is? I wait to be proved wrong...and, in the interests of the team, I hope that the bset men will win! COYS!

 

[Stoof]

What a load of nonsense!

Defoe handled himself far better than most when he was out of the side.

Not noticeably better or worse than Keane - but something Keane gets picked up on - probably by posters of your agenda/persuasion.

If he would have happlily waited until his contract had ran out, which you state, then why didn't he? Because he wasn't interested in doing that was he, otherwise he would have just done it.

Well, it was either rot in the reserves or be sold. And fair play to Levy on that one.

Keane on the other hand behaved like a 3 year old spoilt brat at Birmingham, attacking a water bottle (about the only thing he would tackle) after being an unused substitute. From that moment on Jol lost all bollocks with him!

Oh another one of the Centre Forward Keane Doesn't Tackle brigade! How very boring! That bastard Gomes doesn't score enough fucking goals either. And I can't believe that Chimbonda didn't save all those penalties.

So you have a dig at Defoe for running his contract down to nothing which he didn't do! And in other threads you defend Keane for saying I'm Tottenham for life and then by all accounts behaving like a spoilt brat again a few weeks later to get a transfer. something he did do!

There's nothing to say he acted like a spoilt brat, unless you believe everything you read on the most anti-Keane site on the web (FTL).

Its the thing that pisses me off the most about Keane, the load of bollocks that some people talk about him! Tottenham legend and all that, defending his blatant cowardice etc! if he's a Tottenham legend then fuck knows what our real legends of years gone by are?

He's an ok player who sulks like a brat and has a set of bollocks smaller than a couple of Birdseye garden peas!

An OK player!!?!? Fucking hell. He's the Premier League's ALL TIME 9th top scorer, for a club like us?!?! Scored over a hundred goals for us. And still you treat him like he's some **** rag you've found on the floor.

If he stays then fine good luck to him and i hope produces the goods when called upon, if he goes then fucking good riddance, let him go and mince about running away from tackles for somebody else!

Yeah I love those Pavlyuchenko, Defoe and Bent sliding tackles.

Funny, I prefer Keane's goals and assists. But that's just silly ol' me.

I wasn't trying to say that Keano's past is completely clean, but certainly doesn't deserve the hideous vitriol from his own fans especially when Defoe is made out to be this God.

It's fucking ridiculous the lack of respect mate. And for someone who's obviously a bit more advanced in years I'm really surprised.

 

[defoe18]

Your fighting a losing battle mate...

 

[Marty]

Your fighting a losing battle mate...

He shouldn't be, I agree with everything he says, but ... yea, the haters won't be converted any time soon. It's best to just ignore them.

 

[defoe18]

He shouldn't be, I agree with everything he says, but ... yea, the haters won't be converted any time soon. It's best to just ignore them.

Yeah very true.

I can never understand why some people choose to hate certain players from their OWN team...:bang:

 

[southlondonyiddo]

i cant believe the way people have turned against keane its unreal

Yeah cant believe it. Fucked off to Liverpool and left us in the shit. Came back with his tail between his legs after being a total flop at one of the big 4Eek

 

[cockerel downunder]

from a purely tactical (and not personal) point of view i think tnhat having both keane and defoe is a bad thing as it limits us to 442 as at least one of them has to be on the pitch at all times. since they have both been back, defoe has looked the better player, so i would not be unhappy to see keane sold, despite his great history with the club, as i think it would leave the squad with a better balance and tactical felxibilty. if we cant sell him i think harry will try and find another captain so that he can play defoe as much as he wants. buying keane to save us from trelegation wasnt necessarily a mistake, but making him captain was.

 

[mattstev2000]

I get tired of the Keane bashers. They hide behind the 'he's shit', 'he's not going to fit with our style of play', 'he is disruptive in the dressing room' crap, but when it comes down to it it's all to do with the fact that he broke their precious little hearts when he went off to play for the scousers.

Robbie Keane is a 100+ goals Spurs legend, a great leader, the current club captain, still in his prime and has been a consistently better striker than any of the others we currently have on the books. Anyone who says otherwise has still got their girly little knickers in a bunch because he dared to leave us. Grow a pair.

 

[Chris12345]

...or cos he was one of our best players, said he loved us and whatnot... then suddenly he was a massive Liverpool fan, would like nothing better to play for them, then started disrupting our preseason to force a move... went there, was total shite, came crawling back, and rather holding his hands up and saying he went to his 'boyhood' club and failed, he blamed everyone but himself, told everyone he never wanted to leave, and then has been total shite since arriving back, and again has blamed everyone but himself, and is now AGAIN, sulking? :shrug:

 

[Legend10]

Afraid not,

Some of us were actually glad when he left, it was resigning him that fucked us off!

 

[TheBigMatch]

I get tired of the Keane bashers. They hide behind the 'he's shit', 'he's not going to fit with our style of play', 'he is disruptive in the dressing room' crap, but when it comes down to it it's all to do with the fact that he broke their precious little hearts when he went off to play for the scousers.

Robbie Keane is a 100+ goals Spurs legend, a great leader, the current club captain, still in his prime and has been a consistently better striker than any of the others we currently have on the books. Anyone who says otherwise has still got their girly little knickers in a bunch because he dared to leave us. Grow a pair.

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

You said it.

The vast majority of fans will still be singing "Keano" this season.

As for the Defoe Keano thing. If they continue to score their usual amount of goals from the one small striker position (did they combine to even outscore Henry?) I don't care if they never click together. But it would be great to see them working well and scoring together. The stats don't support it though.

 

[TheBigMatch]

..... then suddenly he was a massive Liverpool fan,..../quote]

SUDDENLY ???????? What planet have you been on for the past decade?
Sunday Mirror, Jan 18, 1998 by HUGH O'REILLY

IRISH starlet Robbie Keane celebrates the biggest break of his career every month - by laughing all the way to the bank.
Keane is the precious teenage talent who two years ago refused to sign for the team he'd always supported - Liverpool.
Dispatched to Anfield by Noel McCabe, the Irish scout who discovered Roy Keane (below right) for Brian Clough, he didn't like what he saw and left.
Now the sweet 17-year-old striker promises to be just as successful as his famous namesake at Manchester United, as the outline of a big career with Wolves begins to come into focus.
"My dad told me that just because I supported Liverpool didn't mean that I had to sign for them - and he was right.
"I was over at Anfield for a week and got to meet all the players I had worshipped on the telly, people like Ian Rush and Robbie Fowler.
"Everybody at the club was nice to me but I still didn't accept when they asked me to sign. Somehow I had this feeling that it would be better to build my career elsewhere.
"That's not to say that I wouldn't go back to Liverpool at some point in the future if I got the chance and I thought it was a good career move.
"But Anfield just wasn't for me at that particular time. I reckoned I could do better elsewhere and I think I've been proved right! If I'd taken Liverpool up on their offer I don't think I'd be as far forward as I am now."
Liverpool weren't the only club alerted to the prodigious talent on Liffyside. Harry Redknapp (top right) took him on trial to West Ham - and promptly sent him back to Dublin a fortnight later.
Nottingham Forest offered him a contract but thanks to the persuasive talk of Graham Taylor and the friendship of Wolves' scout Eddie Corcoran, he eventually set down at Molineux.
At 17, Robbie has already shown that he possesses the flair of superstars.

:shrug:

 

[Stoof]

...or cos he was one of our best players, said he loved us and whatnot... then suddenly he was a massive Liverpool fan, would like nothing better to play for them, then started disrupting our preseason to force a move... went there, was total shite, came crawling back, and rather holding his hands up and saying he went to his 'boyhood' club and failed, he blamed everyone but himself, told everyone he never wanted to leave, and then has been total shite since arriving back, and again has blamed everyone but himself, and is now AGAIN, sulking? :shrug:

Dude. I love you as a fellow Chris.

But you've not hit one fact there, aside from "he was one of our best players, said he loved us".

 

[Coyboy]

Seem to remember Defoe having a bit of stomp, kicking the odd water bottle, having a pop at Martin Jol?

But that doesn't get mentioned because he's everyone's golden boy!

The same golden boy that would have happily waited until his contract was down to zip before pocketing a fuckload of money. The same golden boy that handed in transfer requests at Charlton and West Ham at inextricably stupid times.

Not being funny, but I'd more concerned about JD's ability to turn and have a sulk than Robbie Keane's - who has in fact always come back from a so-called low with a huge run of goals and form.

Why people still doubt his ability to do this is beyond me.

How can something be inextricably stupid?! I understand where you are coming from, but I don't understand why so many posters are either Defoists or Keaneists- both are pretty equal and have their faults. I can't believe some are deconstructing a water bottle kicking incident in April 2005. And to be fair, re Keane leaving, Levy did hint he had been sulking or being 'disruptive' which was the word always used to describe my behavior in music classes.

 

[defoe18]

Hey i love them both (despite my username...)