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lukespurs7

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With all the rumours flying around about so many of our players leaving it left we wondering who as fans we'd like to see stay and who we'd like to see go. Candidates:

Robbo-GO-Used to love him and even though he's recoved his form slightly, you always worry about him and he is too error-prone.

Chimbonda-STAY-Quality player, Hutton is fantastic to keep Chimbo out the team but if Chimbo is happy to stay and fight he'd be an excellent player to keep, strong in the air, fast and versetile. Keep if we can

Dawson-STAY-I think the boy has talent, both him and Kaboul are not near Woody and Kings class but they are however both quite young (under23) and have a long time to mature in top class CB's. I'd give Daws at least 1-2 more seasons to develop. Wenger leaves alot of his players to bed in, some looking shite for 2 seasons even before you see them turn into something special.

Kaboul-STAY-See Dawson

Assou-Eketto-GO-Too injury prone, fairly average and we have Bale and Gilberto.

Jenas-GO-regretably, it's either him or Zokora and at what they do, Zokora is arguably better. If we got a world class CAM along side Zoko that'd be best for everyone(tiago)

Zokora-STAY-just about willing to give him 1 more season

Lennon-STAY!!!!-Fucking papers why the fuck would be want to sell him. So his delivery could be improved a bit, on his day he is a class act and still very young. Must be coached but def stay!

Malbranque-GO-Love his effot, commitment etc as a RM i'm sure he'd be fine, but he's not going to get in ahead of Lennon and won't want to stay and fight for a place with him. As a LM he just isn't effective enough and if we had a natural left footer with pace, it'd be better.

Huddlestone-STAY-anyone who can pass a ball as well as he can is worth keeping. Seriously though, he's still young and has fantastic ability need to keep to see how he turns out.

Bent-STAY-He is a proven goalscorer and under-rated by our fans who have massive expectations of a player who rarely starts and so finds it hard to get rhythm,form,confidence etc. Again, also young so worth keeping.

So yea out of all the players rumoured to be leaving i actually don't want to many to leave but a few big names who need improving for the top4 i.e robbo and jenas is probably nesseccary, otherwise we do actually have a great squad already just massively bad start to season especially defensively. Sorted that out a bit with woody and hutton, get in a new GK and mabye CB then perhaps a new LM or/and CM and keep most the rest of the squad and we'll be laughing.

I'm assuming the following will leave:
Cerny
Gardener
Stalteri
Rocha

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Bulletspur

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Good post. I wont argue with your choices of who should or should not go given the various reasons you have stated.

I would keep either Robbo or Cernny as no2 keeper providing they would want to e stay. I know they might not be the best and are low in confidence but we still need some sort of continuity where keepers are concerned.

You didnt mention Lee. I love the guy but he is not very much liked and is underated by the majority of posters on this forum. Like Chimbonda I would keep him if Assou-Ekotto had to go. That would mean we would have cover for both full back positions.
 

lukespurs7

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Good post. I wont argue with your choices of who should or should not go given the various reasons you have stated.

I would keep either Robbo or Cernny as no2 keeper providing they would want to e stay. I know they might not be the best and are low in confidence but we still need some sort of continuity where keepers are concerned.

You didnt mention Lee. I love the guy but he is not very much liked and is underated by the majority of posters on this forum. Like Chimbonda I would keep him if Assou-Ekotto had to go. That would mean we would have cover for both full back positions.
cheers bud and yea good shout with lee. I quite like and rate him but may well be heading back to PSV. Suppose with Chimbo he is like nearly 30 or 29 at least so he may well just be the type of person to accept being a squad player and picking up his 20k a week. If so that'd be awsome because he'd not really sulk that much and we'd have a player who could come in at RB,CB or LB and do a fantastic job.
 

eddiebailey

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Who goes depends a lot on who comes in.

I would like to see three experienced players competing for every two outfield places, plus eleven quality youngsters who do not expect to start every game, but are ready to push for a place.

So:

GK: Robinson, vacancy; vacancy
FB: Hutton, Chimbonda, vacancy; Gunter, Bale
CB: King, Woodgate, vacancy; Kaboul, Dervitte
CM: Jenas, vacancy, vacancy; Huddlestone, O'Hara
WM: Lennon, Malbranque, vacancy; Taarabt, vacancy
ST: Berbatov, Keane, Bent; vacancy, vacancy

Hopefully Gilberto will be the player to fill either the FB or WM vacancy, the remainder of the season will tell. So that means filling five first team vacancies, plus recruiting four quality youngsters, unless someone such as Rose or Pekhart emerges before the end of the season.

Out would be: Cerny, Alnwick, Stalteri, Lee, Assou-Ekottu, Gardner, Dawson, Rocha, Zokora, Tainio, Ghaly and Boateng. It is probably also the end of the line for older reserves such as Mills, Daniels, McKenna and Barcham.
 

sparx100

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Go:

Robbo, Cerny, Lee, Gardner, Stalteri, Rocha, Jenas, KPB,

In:

Some Players
 

frodo

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I think we should get rid of:
Robinson (Unreliable. I am sure he will regain some form at another club but we can't afford to piss around with him. Out)

Chimbonda (Only if we can get good money from him. Bad attitude)

Gardner

Stalteri

Y P Lee (Good but not good enough. Back to PSV)

Dawson (Newcastle will overpay on this one big time for sure)

Malbranque (I have never seen an attacking player look so uncomfortable with a football in all my life. Love his work ethic though)


We definitely need to keep, beyond the obvious (King, Berba, Keane etc.)

Kaboul - Some serious potential here and whilst we don't need to sell players he is definitely worth keeping for a while longer

Prince Boateng - Am convinced we haven't seen what he is fully capable of yet and am sure he is someone worth waiting for

Lennon - Having a bad season but come on guys he is young and has exceeded expectations incredibly. Keep and let improve.

Huddlestone - Sell him and we will regret it massively 5 years down the line. True story

Zokora - Personally I love the guy. Love his engine, his driving runs, his enthusiasm. I know he is yet to live up to his 8 million pound price tag but I think come next season, playing alongside real quality he may perform better

Jenas - Why sell him? Are we reall going to recoup that much for him. I can't see any club playing more than 7 million pounds for him which isn't worth settling for in my opinion. Granted he has gone off the boil in the last few games but it wasn't so long ago he was the man who dictated our league cup winning team. Consistency is what he needs to improve on but he is still young and can still improve.

Bent - Very, very important we don't sell him (at least not for anything less than what we paid for him). I am sorry but there are only a hanful of footballers in the world who I think I would break up the Keane - Berbatov strikeforce for. He has hardly had a chance and lets be honest when we signed him we knew he would have to wait for his chance before he got a regular run in the games. Undoubtedly talented. Keep. He will come good.
 

alfiespurs

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Its the clear out sale at the Lane ! Robbo,Dawson( will miss this guy),Lee,Jenas ( hit or miss),Chimbonda,Teemu (hate to say that !)...
 

Beni

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Good Post, although I don't agree with some of your choices of players to go, its all about opinions etc

I think we should want all our players to stay, as all of them contribute being in a squad. Having a good squad is vital in having a successful season.
We obviously need to strengthen in certain areas, which will allow players to be offloaded in areas that are sufficiently covered.

Players that I think will be sold are:-

Stalteri
Ghaly
Cerny (Released)
Rocha
Gardner
Dawson
Tainio (Released)
Lee
Chimbonda
 

Snuzzy

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Out: Robinson, Lee, Stalteri, Gardner, Rocha, Chimbonda, Ghaly, Tainio(sadly), Boateng

and Cerny because he'll be out of contract
 

Lanh

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I'd get rid of Chimbonda first and foremost. Secondly I'd keep Malbranque.

Whereas I was one of Steed's biggest detractors last season, I disliked him more than I disliked Chimbonda, I think he has been our most improved player this season and he has won me over with his performances.

Pascal on the other hand just keeps getting worse and worse. Get rid ASAP.

The people saying BAE is too injury prone, he's had ONE injury has he not? He is not yet back from that injury which was a serious one. Before the injury he showed MASSIVE promise, he should be given the chance to see if that promise is still there and if it is, if he can live up to it.
 

sidford

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out: zokora, chims, kaboul, BAE, rocha, boateng & gardner

players with one last season to prove themselves:

dawson, lennon, robbo & hudd
 

Kendall

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Hudd has 1 season to prove himself? for god sake man, come on. he pisses on O'Hara and he's younger.
 

KeaneIsKeane

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Why do people suddenly want to get rid of Jenas and keep Zokora, this board is so fickle. I'm not saying its the wrong call, but come on. We were all over Jenas's nuts after this performances against Arsenal. I personally think we need a top quality CAM to move forward and I don't think Jenas is that, but he's a good player. I'd love to see him played on the right.
 

sidford

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Hudd has 1 season to prove himself? for god sake man, come on. he pisses on O'Hara and he's younger.

your having a laugh? hudd is too immobile and wont mix it in midfield. ohara has been more effective in games then hudd has would much rather sell hudd then ohara
 

Kendall

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I don't think you're watching the same game as me mate, but fair enough.

O'Hara's distribution is nothing compared to Hudd's, his tackling isn't as good, his shooting isn't as good. Hudd is improving all the time and he's still just a kid.
 

sidford

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I don't think you're watching the same game as me mate, but fair enough.

O'Hara's distribution is nothing compared to Hudd's, his tackling isn't as good, his shooting isn't as good. Hudd is improving all the time and he's still just a kid.

hudds shooting is shocking. he can strike a ball so cleanly but you only have to look at his scoring record to see for all the ability he has he doesnt score near enough. hudd cant/wont tackle which for a centre mid just isnt good enouh. granted his range of passing is great but thats his only asset. as a centre mid he doesnt have the speed, mobility or athleticism to be a top player. not saying ohara is going to be world class but he has some pace, creativity and a good engine which we need more then we need hudd
 

Kendall

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pace, creativity & a good engine? you just described O'Hara as having the attributes as Jenas, although he's clearly not as good as the latter.

I'd question O'Hara's creativty compared to Hudd's aswell. Huddlestone is clearly the more gifted footballer and is younger to boot.
 

sidford

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hudd is a central mid with no pace, cant tackle, head or get up & down the pitch so my argument for giving him one last season purely because of the fact he is young & he has natural ability when on the ball but that doesnt come through nearly often enough.
as for ohara he doesnt have hudd's natural passing range or natural ability on the ball but as an overall player he is faster, gets forward better & can clearly defend as he has shown so i would rather him then hudd. neither is up to be a regular in top 6 side but ohara is a better choice of the bench then hudd as he can play in more positions & is a better goal threat
 

Kendall

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Agree to disagree but I think you're nuts. O'Hara has shown that he has some good attributes in his sparing appearences, but I don;t think he can touch the Hudd to allround talent & I do think Huddlestone's tackles and breakup play are often overlooked.
 
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