Why Harry Redknapp is no longer the manager to take Spurs Forward

[sark]

re your 'Longevity' paragraph... firstly you have no idea if he'll be manager come the start of next season, there is every chance he will.

So you are saying his style of putting an arm around players and then clearly getting the best out of players which has taken us to the quarter finals of champions league can't work any further? of course it can, it's highly successful man management that has clearly worked elsewhere.

The problem is Harry not being allowed to grow the team as he wants, Levy is dictating the transfer policy. Harry took a team of players to be fair not world class and overachieved in taking us the champions league quarters. He'd love to push us forward with big stars and win the league, he's said that. He needs though to be given total control of the club to achieve this.

Levy has done a great job in stabilising the club and moving us forward from a horrendous 20 year period where everyone else apart from Spurs fan would argue the claim that Spurs is a big club. Now though those of you that argue that Harry has done well but cannot take us further need to consider making that point about Levy.

Or maybe we simply cannot afford to play with the big boys, the game has been decimated by billionaires using the most popular sporting league in the world as their play thing and paying wages of £200+ per week just to say ooh look I won!

Look at just one example of many, Harry clearly wants Diarra and has done for some time, Levy has been negotiating but cannot convince him to come because we can't or won't pay him what he wants... How is this Harrys fault? It's clear if you look back over the last 3 years that's we have missed out on many top tranfers target due to money, wages etc.... we're are club in a good financial position due to Levy but then maybe we have to accept our level unless Joe Lewis is going to throws billions at it or we are brought out by an Abu Dhabi billionaire who wants a little north London plaything.

 

[minimike]

This whole forum has turned into a depressing place and Rednapp has been the scapegoat for everything:

1. I think with the Modric situation noone could even forsee this would happen. Everyone thought he would just get back to the job as soon as the transfer window ended, but he's done the opposite. I think you can only blame this on hindsight rather than Redknapp. Even as fans I'd say half of us wanted Levy to show strength and not listen to any Chelsea fans at all, the other half wanted us to sell and bring in a couple of players that would improve the squad- everyone can't have their cake and eat it. In addition, a lot of people on the forum even commended Levy for his hard approach with regards to Modric.

2. With regards to transfer targets and outgoings its clearly obvious that our subdued transfer activity is because of our inability to shift the deadwood out. I think this could possibly be blamed on Levy because of his sturboness and tough negotiation skills. I for one am gutted that Diarra looks like it won't happen and think that its fairly obvious that things have broken down because of wages- the biggest factor in being unable to attract top class players.

As much as I defend Harry 100%, there are only 2 problems I have with him: 1. His big mouth with regards to the media and 2. Choice of formation... It was clearly the 4-4-2 formation which undoubtedly launced us into the Champions League, and as much as I admire VDV, we should have stuck to it. Alternatively, the formation of 4-2-3-1 has been mentioned a lot. I for one think if we signed another decent DM aka Diarra (at worst Parker), it would tighten up our defence with 2 players just infront of the back four, thus allowing the fullbacks to get more forward- perfect for Walker.

Other than those two concluding points, it is unnecessary to blame Redknapp for everything.

 

[paddy30]

Villa away in the League was the last really good performance in the League for me.

What about Liverpool away did we not play well there...When Harry does go its only then we will realise what he done for us were getin as bad as arsenal fans must be something in the air in North London give the man a break

 

[paddy30]

When will people realise what Harry has done for the club and still can do a lot more,hes getting the blame for the modric situation which is ridiculous,modric is a tosser for the way he is behaving that aint Harrys fault plus he doesnt pay the wages it aint him that has the salary cap in the club hence the reason he cant get in world class players,he has taking us to a Champions League QF what more do we want from him,its the obsession with him been an ex westham manager that people are turning against him even tho a lot of people wont admit it,get over it hes with Spurs and is doing a fantastic job,2 games in and its all doom and gloom be happy with what we have cause if he goes any time soon we will then realise the grass is not always greener we played some of our worst football under Jol but he gets more praise than Harry unreal the way some people act....Rant over

 

[TheDutchMaster]

People just wanna keep banging on about reaching the CL QF! Whats the big deal, teams are doing it every year.. not a one season wonder!

 

[Mr Pink]

What about Liverpool away did we not play well there...When Harry does go its only then we will realise what he done for us were getin as bad as arsenal fans must be something in the air in North London give the man a break

We did play well there, what are you getting all worked up about...I was only passing comment. Some people are just as sensitive as Harry :wink:

 

[Goldman]

Did he really say this...
Spurs “won’t have a better season [than last year] for the next 20 years.”

Absolutely shocking, if true.

Yes he did, and yes a shocking comment.

Good article on the whole. The tic tac line made me laugh

 

[RichSpur58]

Redknapp is out of ideas.

We need a centre back, lets buy Cahill or Samba.
Midfield needs reinforcing....PArker
Winger...Bellamy
Full back .... Neville

Can only see asfar as his nose. HR isout of his depth now.

 

[jonathanhotspur]

I get the impression that the management departures (John Alexander + Paul Barber) have not been adequately replaced and that it has lead to Levy taking an active roll in things which are outside his area of expertise .

Not just the building of the brand but also on the football side - it seems Levy did not ditch the D.O.F. system when Commoli went and has become the de-facto DOF himself .

What sort of people is he surrounding himself with at the moment , surely not just yes men flunkies like Donna Cullen ?

Almost every manager in the league will have been told by the board at one time or other that they must/must not pick a particular player .

Did Harry pick Luka Modric because noone else was available or because the board told him to ?

When people were still saying everything was rosy between Levy and Redknapp, I was saying otherwise. I am certainly of the opinion that Levy has assumed the role of unofficial DoF. And at times I've been pleased to hear that he didn't share Harry's ideas on targets but after 12 months of transfer window inertia, I'm getting sick of the whole set-up.

 

[theShiznit]

He's played the game of trying to charm the media at all times (a lot to our detriment) he covets the England job he has made that clear.

He pats himself on the back when things go well and we hear his various mouthpieces shifting the blame from him when things go bad.

He is not interested in creating a lasting legacy at our club like the managerial greats of the British game, so i find it hard to see how he can a) attract players on longer term contracts. B) motivate the players for the hard season ahead when they know full well he hopes to be off at the end of it...

 

[dellybelly]

Why Harry Redknapp is no longer the manager to take Spurs forward
Guy labels this paragraph as a roast and uses an 8-1 aggregate score against two of the strongest squads in the league and league favourites on early form, with one new addition in goal for us, a massive injury list and our best player refusing to play/try.

Got time for a quick chat ‘Arry?
Oh brilliant, media quotes. Harry talks to the media does he? Fuck I never expected that when he joined (was poached/tapped-up from Portsmouth by DL). The way I see it is, the guy calls it like he sees it, gives an honest opinion and knows how to use the press to make a few points. People jump on every word, speculate and snipe. I find his openness refreshing, fair enough he does make the odd gaffe, but he's just a fucking man, he puts his trousers on one leg at a time just like the rest of us.

The Modric situation
This is too big a can of worms to label HR as a can opener. There's a lot more to this Modric situation than I think any of us know, remember how Berbatov was promised a move? This is between Modric, his agent and Daniel Levy. We're going to try and hang Harry now because he doesn't want to have a player that doesn't want to play for us? Shocking, almost as shocking as Luka's performance on Sunday, where he just couldn't be bothered. Head not right? Heart not right.

Form from February 2011 onwards
Where was the striker to finish teams off we were all expecting from that Summer at least to strengthen our hand in the best club competition in the world, which we were in until April?

As for this February 22nd date, seemed to pick that date as we'd only lost 1 in 15 (Everton away) before that (with no new wonder striker), we also picked up a few injuries to key players, but let's brush that off in a squad lacking notable investment during that time. As for the form, we didn't kill teams off as the strikers couldn't hit the g-spot on a 10 stone fanny...we murdered West Brom, Blackpool (twice), Wolves, West Ham and they were some of the many performances where we didn't get the results we deserved (due to a lack of finishing power....which we knew he lacked and still fucked about in the market)...not to mention great results against the likes of the Milans, Arsenal, Liverpool away etc.

Tactics
So instead of poor tactics, there's no tactics? Then we're going to list 2 games in which we went down to 10 men early doors and got well beaten and a first ever match in Europe on a plastic pitch as good examples? Fuck off.

Could go into more detail about the tactics thing, but the fact this bit has a part in it about mismanaging Pav and talks about goals per minute makes me think Ashcroft or one of his cronies wrote it. And failure to accomodate Van der Vaart? Err what? We've changed the system to fit him in and he's done very well.

Injuries
Blame the manager for injuries? OK. :duh:

Redknapp’s transfer record
Really not getting into this, signed the players to turn us round, signed the players to get us into the CL and now with no chance to further develop the squad we stalled and lost our place to a club that spent over £400m and can blow wages out of the water with any player in the world. Maybe if we'd spent one eighth of that on a couple of strikers, they wouldn't even have overtaken us.

Longevity
Get the crystal ball out, tarot cards, tea leaves. England want him to replace a manager who's got a 64% win ratio? I'm surprised by that.

He's our manager now, back him you fucking twits.

We've just lost 5-1 at home. Who are you to tell people not to question our tactically inept manager?

 

[SlickMongoose]

He might be going to jail in a few months, he definitely won't be taking us forward then.

 

[jonathanhotspur]

Dunno if it's already been mentioned but Wenger has apologised to the Arsenal fans for the shite they served up on Sunday.

 

[dellybelly]

Dunno if it's already been mentioned but Wenger has apologised to the Arsenal fans for the shite they served up on Sunday.

Yes, but our defeat definitely wasn't our manager's fault.:liar:

 

[Paolo10]

We've just lost 5-1 at home. Who are you to tell people not to question our tactically inept manager?

The article was posted for discussion, I disagree with all of it and who am I? I'm a fan, like you. Is it the managers fault our (wantaway) star player coasted in a game he was sorely needed in? His fault Dzeko scored 4? His fault Nasri had a great debut? His fault our transfer negotiations have been so protracted we've no new blood of note in for 2 of the hardest games of the season? His fault Aguero, Hart, Nasri, Silva, Dzeko, Yaya Toure and Kompany would all walk on to our team?

I don't think it is.

Our best signing was their reject for fuck sake and he's on more than double our best players. They clicked, we were understrength and poor. You saw how Livermore looked? He tried, even despite looking out of his depth at OT, Luka didn't even try.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

Dunno if it's already been mentioned but Wenger has apologised to the Arsenal fans for the shite they served up on Sunday.

You have to laugh though jonnyboy, Wenger has recently come out and stopped being all stubborn with "I didn't see it", "we should have had a penalty" etc and started apologising, even though he hasn't got near to anything for 6 years. The Gooner fans are now starting to get on his back, and ask serious questions.

Redknapp is in charge for our first ever Champions League participation, the season after we avoid relegation, and then we finish 5th.

You can understand his remorse at fans calling for his head and asking him to apologise.

 

[jonathanhotspur]

You have to laugh though jonnyboy, Wenger has recently come out and stopped being all stubborn with "I didn't see it", "we should have had a penalty" etc and started apologising, even though he hasn't got near to anything for 6 years. The Gooner fans are now starting to get on his back, and ask serious questions.

Redknapp is in charge for our first ever Champions League participation, the season after we avoid relegation, and then we finish 5th.

You can understand his remorse at fans calling for his head and asking him to apologise.

The gooners were knocking the shit out of each other in the stands last season, Spurs_Bears. Serious questions have been asked about Wenger for a number of years now and I think they've thrown a few titles away over the last six seasons but they've been at the top table since Wenger landed there.

I think last season was a disaster, Spurs_Bear, and I wanted to rip Redknapp's head off. And even if I didn't think that, I think losing 5-1 at home is a disgrace and warrants an apology.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

The gooners were knocking the shit out of each other in the stands last season, Spurs_Bears. Serious questions have been asked about Wenger for a number of years now and I think they've thrown a few titles away over the last six seasons but they've been at the top table since Wenger landed there.

I think last season was a disaster, Spurs_Bear, and I wanted to rip Redknapp's head off. And even if I didn't think that, I think losing 5-1 at home is a disgrace and warrants an apology.

You're a very angry man aren't you J-Dogg?

 

[jonathanhotspur]

You're a very angry man aren't you J-Dogg?

I wouldn't say I'm an angry person, as such, but I'm angry that we've squandered such a fabulous opportunity, Spurs_Bear.

 

[Spirit58]

The main thing I disagree with in the OP is attacking HR for our long list of injuries, maybe to a point as the list shouldn't be this long at the start of the season but the amount of injuries players suffer at our club has been a problem for years (if not decades). It always seems we have more than other clubs but then again are we really looking that closely at other teams injury lists.