Quick opinion poll - AVB

I don't understand why anyone would truly be opposed to this, as an aforementioned post suggested, he has a lot to prove. He was widely regarded as one of the brightest young managerial talents in the world, if not the brightest. You dont lose that billing overnight. Chelsea are a very unique club, who ultimately have needed a "yes man" and passive manager such as Di Matteo to run the club so that the "big ego" players can rule the roost to succeed. He will do well if he gets the job, and gets the faces in he wants.

xtrac said:

i just dont understand all this, new direction, long term objective etc etc...lets be honest, whoever is installed as the manager, if after 6 months were sitting bottom of the league, is he going to remain in a job because of our new direction! and long term objective! i very much doubt it!!!

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Levy is nothing if not an early bailer .

He'll be hanging over that panic button from 8 games in .

We could do with real talent in the board room like David Dein when he was at Arsenal .

Joey said:

....Chelsea are a very unique club, who ultimately have needed a "yes man" and passive manager such as Di Matteo to run the club so that the "big ego" players can rule the roost to succeed. He will do well if he gets the job, and gets the faces in he wants.

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Substitute Chelsea from Spurs and that proposition still evaluates to true .

Some how I don't think AVB will be happy to be Daniel Levy's little rent boy .

The most frustrating thing is that Levy will always be resentful of his managers achievements .

striebs said:

Levy is nothing if not an early bailer .

He'll be hanging over that panic button from 8 games in .

We could do with real talent in the board room like David Dein when he was at Arsenal .

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I think to say that Levy is an "early bailer" is a tad harsh. Harry had a lot of time, and for the most part did very well. Most likely is being replaced on account of his mouth, and personality rather than his managerial skill and performance. Jol, equally had time but he chose to go in a different direction when the wheels started coming off. Its a performance driven league and if you aspire to be at the top, failure isn't an option. Ideally Levy needs to give his full backing to the next chap, and stump up the money to get the right players in to support them. Levy on the whole I think is a very intelligent, organised and well respected chairman. I believe we are lucky to have him at the helm and as a result a club thats so healthy.

striebs said:

Substitute Chelsea from Spurs and that proposition still evaluates to true .

Some how I don't think AVB will be happy to be Daniel Levy's little rent boy .

The most frustrating thing is that Levy will always be resentful of his managers achievements .

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Resenting achievements? What achievements are these? We have a squad that is more than capable of challenging with the very best in the league, and knowing this what have we achieved? One (CL qualifying) fourth place and a Champions League run?

Over 57% on here want AVB

God help us If your wishes come true

xtrac said:

i just dont understand all this, new direction, long term objective etc etc...lets be honest, whoever is installed as the manager, if after 6 months were sitting bottom of the league, is he going to remain in a job because of our new direction! and long term objective! i very much doubt it!!!

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Agree with this, I don't want a crusade/mission big project stuff.
I want a manager who the players respect, is tactically astute and plays football.
Simple.

Just thought AVB is 7 years younger that Friedel... how's that going to go down?

faymantaray said:

Just thought AVB is 7 years younger that Friedel... how's that going to go down?

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I doubt Friedel would be bothered in the slightest

He's probably not as crap a manager he turned out to be at Chelsea

But he hardly set the world alight in the Portuguese League... And whilst winning the UEFA Cup is credible, it's a little optmistic calling him 'the brightest managerial talent in the world'...

Things (including people) are usually not as good or bad as they initially seem to be. They're usually somewhere in between.

How good he is for us depends partly on who else we realistically can appoint. I'd prefer Blanc personally, based on nothing rational whatsoever.

Khilari said:

He's probably not as crap a manager he turned out to be at Chelsea

But he hardly set the world alight in the Portuguese League... And whilst winning the UEFA Cup is credible, it's a little optmistic calling him 'the brightest managerial talent in the world'...

Things (including people) are usually not as good or bad as they initially seem to be. They're usually somewhere in between.

How good he is for us depends partly on who else we realistically can appoint. I'd prefer Blanc personally, based on nothing rational whatsoever.

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Just read that one through again.

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• bas
• Spurz
• jenko
• danny
• danielneeds
• xtrac
• dannythomas
• guilleman
• GLUESODA
• bigturnip
• southlondonyiddo
• Coyboy
• EmperorKabir
• sim0n
• LionCity
• Jimmypearce7
• stemark44
• kungfugrip
• vitamin32
• crazydope
• Reshep
• polo_mf
• oohaahedgar
• spursfan77
• Acid
• ricardomcd
• Buster18
• Chinaspur
• Admiralossie
• pedrovski
• jimmyh
• Mr-T
• greeko
• Wellspurs
• johnny69
• hutchiniho
• jonnyp
• tippspur59
• dynamoSpurs
• NEVILLEB
• ethanedwards
• AnotherSpursFan
• allanl
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• Chimbo1
• sparx100
• st@rbug
• Hotspur1978
• yid1o
• Donki
• mattstev2000
• Wsussexspur
• trevo
• RonBurgess51
• deano27
• Khilari
• Supersi32
• kcmei
• Achap
• EastLondonYid
• Jay The Yid
• OmarsComing
• specspurs
• wizardofoz
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+1

lukespurs7 said:

Just read that one through again.

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Yes. I don't understand what more he could have done - undefeated season and four trophies.

No offence mate but I think that sentence kind of undermines your whole post.

I am still a bit on the fence but as Guardiola,Rodgers and Klinsmann are seemingly out of the running I do agree that AVB is the only one linked that really excites me, he could be awful but there is a chance he could be brilliant, to dare is to do. Moyes, Martinez,Blanc etc are all viable candidates but cant see them taking us on another level, they are as mentioned 'safe pair of hands'. Exciting all the same, some managers just suit certain clubs more than others and certain situations more than others, we will see.

Surprised to see AVB being so popular. I voted for him but was under the impression I was in the minority.

Spurger King said:

Surprised to see AVB being so popular. I voted for him but was under the impression I was in the minority.

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You are...just nothing to do with AVBs popularity

I would be happy with the signing of AVB.

Given the time I think he could do wonders for spurs. If what he is after is complete control of football matters then give it to him along with the youth training policy. Saying that, I really hope Levy does give him the time and comes down strongly on players not pulling their weight. As many have said, a lot of players now are mercenaries, as such, they get paid to do a job. Fine if they don't like the manager and want to leave, so be it, but they still have to act in a professional manner for which their £70 F-ing 000+ a week wages demands of them.

If players don't want to play for him, so what, many more will. Regardless of who you are some will like you and sill will not. Same with all managers, some players liked Harry and some didn't. AVB is a young manager and a great tactician as proved by his spells in Portugal and being young he will develop as well as manager. Also I think that Tim Sherwood has been appointed to help him deal with players side after AVB's player revolt at Chelsea and levy does not want this. Whilst not interfering with AVB job, Sherwood can advise on how deal with situations from a man-management perspective I think. As I think a lot of the problems foreign managers have in this country are more cultural rather than them being useless and shite. What AVB see's as the accepted norm in Portugal, maybe seriously frown upon here in the UK.

Going to Chelsea first may have done us a favour in the long run in that he may have learned from this and we will reap the rewards of one Europe's hottest young managers by letting Chelsea fuck up first. If this works out, we will get a big one over them and maybe for a very long time to come. Remember he is in his 30's so he may still be at the club managing for the 30 years time. By this time the club would have an established youth training system feeding the first with players who be taught to use their brains and not just their feet. Which can be a good thing for the England team too.

It has the potential to be a great signing for us and I very much look forward to it, but he needs time and not just a year or two. Not just as a club, but for him as a manager too.

TheGreenLily said:

I would be happy with the signing of AVB.

Given the time I think he could do wonders for spurs. If what he is after is complete control of football matters then give it to him along with the youth training policy. Saying that, I really hope Levy does give him the time and comes down strongly on players not pulling their weight. As many have said, a lot of players now are mercenaries, as such, they get paid to do a job. Fine if they don't like the manager and want to leave, so be it, but they still have to act in a professional manner for which their £70 F-ing 000+ a week wages demands of them.

If players don't want to play for him, so what, many more will. Regardless of who you are some will like you and sill will not. Same with all managers, some players liked Harry and some didn't. AVB is a young manager and a great tactician as proved by his spells in Portugal and being young he will develop as well as manager. Also I think that Tim Sherwood has been appointed to help him deal with players side after AVB's player revolt at Chelsea and levy does not want this. Whilst not interfering with AVB job, Sherwood can advise on how deal with situations from a man-management perspective I think. As I think a lot of the problems foreign managers have in this country are more cultural rather than them being useless and shite. What AVB see's as the accepted norm in Portugal, maybe seriously frown upon here in the UK.

Going to Chelsea first may have done us a favour in the long run in that he may have learned from this and we will reap the rewards of one Europe's hottest young managers by letting Chelsea fuck up first. If this works out, we will get a big one over them and maybe for a very long time to come. Remember he is in his 30's so he may still be at the club managing for the 30 years time. By this time the club would have an established youth training system feeding the first with players who be taught to use their brains and not just their feet. Which can be a good thing for the England team too.

It has the potential to be a great signing for us and I very much look forward to it, but he needs time and not just a year or two. Not just as a club, but for him as a manager too.

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Managing us for 30 years, ha about as much chance of that happening as England winning a penalty shoot-out.

lukespurs7 said:

Managing us for 30 years, ha about as much chance of that happening as England winning a penalty shoot-out.

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It's funny the number of SCers who are worried he will be goddampantsshiteawful...the opposite thought worries me: he will turn out to be the elephants goands, and we will only have him for a short contract. What do we do, then?
Assuming he is going to be our new manager, that is.

Joey said:

I think to say that Levy is an "early bailer" is a tad harsh. Harry had a lot of time, and for the most part did very well. Most likely is being replaced on account of his mouth, and personality rather than his managerial skill and performance. Jol, equally had time but he chose to go in a different direction when the wheels started coming off. Its a performance driven league and if you aspire to be at the top, failure isn't an option. Ideally Levy needs to give his full backing to the next chap, and stump up the money to get the right players in to support them. Levy on the whole I think is a very intelligent, organised and well respected chairman. I believe we are lucky to have him at the helm and as a result a club thats so healthy.

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The wheels came off because he was undermined by Comolli and Kemsley's tapping up another club's manager over the summer; neither was he bought the players he really needed to strengthen the squad.