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Quick opinion poll - AVB

Would you be happy if as rumoured AVB is the new boss?


  • Total voters
    451

14/04/91

Well-Known Member
Jan 13, 2006
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There's going to be a LOT of pressure for the next man, from the media, fans and quite possibly players, to keep us in the top 4. After all what's the point of sacking someone and going backwards....
What concerns me with AVB is how he responded to similar pressure at Chelsea. No doubt Levy will tell him to relax, do his own thing and remember it's a 'project' (fucking hate that word when used in football) but Abramovich probably told him the same.

His handling of the players, culminating in Napoli away was shocking, and borderline cutting his nose off to spite his face.

I'm still struggling to see why we need "a new direction".
 

StartingPrice

Chief Sardonicus Hyperlip
Feb 13, 2004
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10,280
There's going to be a LOT of pressure for the next man, from the media, fans and quite possibly players, to keep us in the top 4. After all what's the point of sacking someone and going backwards....
What concerns me with AVB is how he responded to similar pressure at Chelsea. No doubt Levy will tell him to relax, do his own thing and remember it's a 'project' (fucking hate that word when used in football) but Abramovich probably told him the same.

His handling of the players, culminating in Napoli away was shocking, and borderline cutting his nose off to spite his face.

I'm still struggling to see why we need "a new direction".

We might go sideways, or maybe a little bit backwards, to begin with (maybe), but the idea is for a medium to long term improvement, not to prove we can go one place better in one year, immediate upon replace Mr Redknapp.

We need a change of direction because Mr Redknapp is 65 with a heart-condition. His teams run out of steam in the second half of the season. He doesn't have a rotation policy or a Plan B. According to the ITKs there was a difference in focus between him and Mr levy on the youth system. Mr Levy has invested a huge amount of time, effort and money on ensuring that in the future we benefit from an upsurge in youth product - as the best way for us to compete with richer teams - and clearly wants a manager who fully buys into that.
 

Blake Griffin

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Oct 3, 2011
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because player recruitment has gone to pot. i don't think the board could hack another summer of harry suggesting rio and joe cole to them.
 

JerryGarcia

Dark star crashes...
May 18, 2006
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16,028
I'm all for it, he's a smart guy and I'll bet he learned a hell of a lot from his time at Chelsea. He'll know what to expect from the league and the media now so he should be able to correct his past mistakes. I can see Sandro being a key player in an AVB team too.
 

Jay The Yid

Active Member
Aug 18, 2010
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Won't last a year in my opinion. Shit at Chelsea and proven to be a loser with a better squad and more money than he will have at Spurs.

Can't talk properly and sounds like a darlick.

No No No!!!

Will flop big time. Our club is a joke at times.
 

lukespurs7

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Feb 21, 2006
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I can't quite recall what actually happened with the Chelsea dressing room. Were they just grumpy or was there an actual backlash against AVB?

I voted yes. I would love to give this manager a chance based on his Porto success and think AVB would be an exciting and bold appointment.
No such backlash but they seemed to disrespect his authority and openly challenge and criticise his team selections and tactics.
It's hard to know without being a fly on the wall weather his tactics and manner were hard to work with or weather the players he had just didn't fit his approach e.g Terry playing a high line.
I suppose if we appoint him then we will see which one it is. I'd love for him to do well but its a huge risk in my opinion.
 

faymantaray

Average-Sized Member
Apr 19, 2005
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Very, very excited about this. A year ago he was the hottest manager around and we wouldn't have stood a chance landing him. Give him time and he could be our manager for the next 10 years.
 

Eric_s

Well-Known Member
Aug 30, 2004
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Won't last a year in my opinion. Shit at Chelsea and proven to be a loser with a better squad and more money than he will have at Spurs.

Can't talk properly and sounds like a darlick.

No No No!!!

Will flop big time. Our club is a joke at times.[/quote]

Some of our fans are too.

AVB is not our manager yet. If he does become our manager I think our unaimous support will help him cope with the shit from the media.
 

mattdefoe

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Jul 16, 2009
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I for one am very very excited about the thought of Boas at spurs, its a dream job for him. At chelsea he had everything set for him to fail... big egos such as lampard and terry. He didn't really have any quality wingers and was pursued to play torres even though he was off form.

I believe he will not just prove how tactically astute he is at spurs but he will been keen and eager to get his teeth into a superb squad with everything he needs, pacey wingers,creative midfielders.

All we need is the astute and game changing tactics and I think if given the chance boas will provide this. Boas could be the key to outsmarting the mancinis,fergies and wengers in big games. Rather than telling the players to keep it up and run around he will use a game plan and a Plan B.

He will coach and hopefully keep up and improve on everything Harry did and not throw it away.
Cant wait
 

ultimateloner

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Jan 25, 2004
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I think he clearly has ideas and can talk a good game. His risk is execution and man-management. If he can prove to DL what he learnt and will do different given his failure at Chelsea then he is worth a shot; he's got allt he qualities on paper to succeed.

I hope our players are young and nice enough to be willing to do something new and different. Players like Modric/VdV/Bale will clearly respond positively (they are progressive, which is why they succeed) but can't see the likes of Lennon/Defoe improving (they have not developed other aspects of their game over the last few seasons).
 

danielneeds

Kick-Ass
May 5, 2004
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I hope our players are young and nice enough to be willing to do something new and different. Players like Modric/VdV/Bale will clearly respond positively (they are progressive, which is why they succeed)
Personally I don't want "nice" players, I want winners, who want to succeed so much it hurts. If these guys are progressive, and that is why they "succeed" I guess the likes Terry, Lampard and Cashley must be regressive winners, what with their rejection of AVB and their stacks of trophies compared to our progressive winners.

but can't see the likes of Lennon/Defoe improving (they have not developed other aspects of their game over the last few seasons).
Lennon improved many aspects of his game under Harry. His crossing got alot better, he didn't always look to beat his man, sometimes putting it in first time, he has more variation, it's just that injuries keep stunting his progress.

AVB clearly has a brilliant analytical mind when it comes to tactics. I just have legitimate worries when it comes to his man management and general maturity, that I think many on here are prepared to sweep under the carpet because they desperately want him to be the uber-progressive continental manager to take us into the stratosphere. I guess we will see if he is the real deal.
 

doowaa

SC Supporter
Mar 5, 2005
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I think that some of the problem that AVB had at Chelsea was that of going back to club where he had worked before under a different set up and being the boss this time. No doubt some of the older players remembered him from that time and since they are similar in age no doubt also they had a very different relationship with him than they needed to when he became the boss. yes Roberto Di MAtteo went back and got respect but he is a different kettle of fish, already a club legend and also there whenever the current squad were not, perhaps with one or teo exceptions.

Back to AVB, he did prove a lot at Porto. He had a team that played high up the pitch but could also dig in that won a European Trophy and their domestic league whilst going unbeaten. yes I know, it's only Portugal, it's only the Europa League but doesn;t it show something? I like him, I like how he spoke about the game, how he dealt with the press and his trench coat which was pretty cool (good trench coat is hard to whack). I am cautious too, I think one of Harry's good points was his back room staff and I don't know AVB's.

anyway over to DL, he hasn't got too much wrong recently. Lets see what happens.
 

ultimateloner

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Jan 25, 2004
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Personally I don't want "nice" players, I want winners, who want to succeed so much it hurts. If these guys are progressive, and that is why they "succeed" I guess the likes Terry, Lampard and Cashley must be regressive winners, what with their rejection of AVB and their stacks of trophies compared to our progressive winners.


Lennon improved many aspects of his game under Harry. His crossing got alot better, he didn't always look to beat his man, sometimes putting it in first time, he has more variation, it's just that injuries keep stunting his progress.

AVB clearly has a brilliant analytical mind when it comes to tactics. I just have legitimate worries when it comes to his man management and general maturity, that I think many on here are prepared to sweep under the carpet because they desperately want him to be the uber-progressive continental manager to take us into the stratosphere. I guess we will see if he is the real deal.

I think if you are not amazing with proven ways you need to be willing to learn. I concur with your view on regressive winners.

I disagree that Lennon's improved under HR. Still doesn't score enough goals/create enough chances given the speed he has.

I agree with your view on AVB.
 

striebs

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Mar 18, 2004
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As long as Enic and Daniel Levy are at the top , real success on the pitch will elude us .

They are contol freaks and don't trust football people .

What we can hope for is that they prove to be the right people to execute the stadium project which would be a magnificent contribution .

After that they should sell out to people with real football vision .
 

dooey123

Active Member
Jun 5, 2006
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I would like him.

It is a risk after what happened with Chelsea but you can never really know how it will pan out as there are so many factors that define who is to become a great manager such as player chemistry, relationship with the chairman, quality of facilities available, transfer funds etc. many of which are out of the managers control.

So many big name managers have had failures and who's to say that if someone like Fergie had been moved on after 2 years at Man Utd he would not have been a failure as well.

But AVB is young so one for the long term, he has won a league, domestic cup and a european trophy, he tries to play attractive football and because he studies the game I feel he'd be able to find a solution for when things are not going well during a match which I felt was Harry's weakness.
 

rabbikeane

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Mar 29, 2005
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Maybe they should be more like Portsmouth, and put trust into football people..
We're not where we are by coincidence, Levy has taken this football team from mediocrity to becoming a top team again.
Single decision you may question, but look at the overall improvement.
There's not many success stories like ours in modern football.
 

sloth

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Mar 7, 2005
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Maybe they should be more like Portsmouth, and put trust into football people..
We're not where we are by coincidence, Levy has taken this football team from mediocrity to becoming a top team again.
Single decision you may question, but look at the overall improvement.
There's not many success stories like ours in modern football.

If I could double agree I would :)
 

Bus-Conductor

SC Supporter
Oct 19, 2004
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50,713
Blanc doesn't scare me like the thought of AVB scares me a little. But the thought of Blanc also doesn't quite excite me like the thought of AVB does. Start of the week I was leaning towards preferring Blanc. But I'm leaning more towards AVB right now. The way he tried to play at Chelsea is the way I would like us to play. High tempo, pressing, possession football.

AVB would be the braver appointment, and maybe it's just the gambler in me, but I am currently leaning more towards taking that punt. To Dare is To Do and all that.
 

xtrac

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May 16, 2004
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i just dont understand all this, new direction, long term objective etc etc...lets be honest, whoever is installed as the manager, if after 6 months were sitting bottom of the league, is he going to remain in a job because of our new direction! and long term objective! i very much doubt it!!!
 
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