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Georginio Wijnaldum signs for Liverpool

THFCSPURS19

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He was about the only player who performed for them last season, 11 goals and 5 assists from midfield in the league is an excellent record at any club, even more impressive if you're getting that sort of return at a mess of a club that got relegated.
I think you'll find that Newcastle fans feel that Wijnaldum's lack of effort also strongly contributed to their relegation.
 

Everlasting Seconds

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Isn't he that new guy who came to PL and fought for a club that got relegated and then he wasn't as poor as all those other guys who got relegated so "everybody" thought he was such a good fit for us? :rolleyes:
 

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I think you'll find that Newcastle fans feel that Wijnaldum's lack of effort also strongly contributed to their relegation.
Newcastle fans are knobs though, they whinge more than ourselves lol. Clubs a mess from top to bottom, on and off the pitch, no surprise they went down, wouldn't put that down to GW personally. Sissoko played like something possessed against us on the last day for example.

In terms of lack of effort - Poch would soon knock that out of him if that was the case.
 

BuckeyeSpurs11

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Don't see where he fits in really. Certainly more potential in him though.

When he plays for the Dutch national team, he plays in the 3 man midfield or 5 man with LVG...he can play in the attacking 3 like he did with Newcastle but I think he'd make very good cover for Dembele if needed to. He's been very versatile throughout his top flight career with PSV, Dutch & Newcastle.
 

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When he plays for the Dutch national team, he plays in the 3 man midfield or 5 man with LVG...he can play in the attacking 3 like he did with Newcastle but I think he'd make very good cover for Dembele if needed to. He's been very versatile throughout his top flight career with PSV, Dutch & Newcastle.
It would be interesting if he could play deeper, he certainly seems to have some of Dembele's power. All I've really seen of him is those late runs into the box though.
 

THFCSPURS19

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Newcastle fans are knobs though, they whinge more than ourselves lol. Clubs a mess from top to bottom, on and off the pitch, no surprise they went down, wouldn't put that down to GW personally. Sissoko played like something possessed against us on the last day for example.

In terms of lack of effort - Poch would soon knock that out of him if that was the case.
Their fans have a right to be pissed off- they've just been relegated. Of course you can't solely put the blame on GW, but I'm surprised Poch sees him as the right sort of player attitude-wise.

With that being said, I agree with you in that if anyone can sort out a player's effort, it's Pochettino. Wijnaldum's work-rate was also seen as one of his best qualities for PSV so I'm surprised that seemingly dropped off for Newcastle. Hopefully it's not because he gave up when things got tough.
 

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Definitely has ability but quite lazy and is not quite the fast, creative, dribbler everyone seems to be crying out for. He's more of an Alli - has moments of insane quality but can also be insanely frustrating.
 

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Guy is an astute player. Liked him before he down graded to geordies. Couldn't believe it when they signed him. Saying that it concerns me, though all speculation we are not targeting a certain Modric, Coutinho type of player, which is what we need most imho. Unless we are bringing two attacking midfielders in which would make no sense.
 

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This link/article must be bullshit!!

It clearly states....

Having already signed defensive midfielder Victor Wanyama, Pochettino wants to boost his attacking options to cover for injury and suspension and allow him to change formation. ....

Sorry, but I've read what the experts say on here. Poch is far too rigid to change formation! :cautious:
 

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More of an Alli type than an accomplished passer or dribbler. I guess we do miss 'goals from the midfield' and that penetrating threat running behind/arriving late on crosses, but I don't know, seems to get goals but not much else.

If the price is right I wouldn't be opposed, but there's a reason he went down with Newcastle, he has limitations.

Not saying we should be going all out to sign him, but I really don't think whether a player has been relegated is necessarily an indicator of quality.

Kanoute and Di Canio were both relegated with West Ham for example. I'm sure there are others.
 

danielneeds

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Not saying we should be going all out to sign him, but I really don't think whether a player has been relegated is necessarily an indicator of quality.

Kanoute and Di Canio were both relegated with West Ham for example. I'm sure there are others.
Schotty Parker and Defoe both did alright for us, didn't they?
 

danielneeds

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Doesn't he play more deep for the national team?

Edit: just saw someone already answered that
Apparently so, I don't know how effective he is though. At Newcaslte he kind of reminded me of Gus Poyet - good midfield scorer but not that effective when asked to do something on the ball.
 

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Always caused us problems when playing Newcastle. Lots of pace, and can play a number of positions.
 

CoopsieDeadpool

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Newcastle fans are knobs though, they whinge more than ourselves lol. Clubs a mess from top to bottom, on and off the pitch, no surprise they went down, wouldn't put that down to GW personally. Sissoko played like something possessed against us on the last day for example.

In terms of lack of effort - Poch would soon knock that out of him if that was the case.

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From what I've seen of what the Geordies said about him it was his attitude and tendency to go missing in important games that pissed them off more than anything. I think the talent is there, and when he's comfortable he can be very, very good. It's when the pressure gets turned up he seems to wilt. That seems to be the attitude we've been trying to eradicate from our club over the last 2 years or so, so not sure I'd be happy with a player of that reputation coming in regardless of talent.
 

dagraham

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Apparently so, I don't know how effective he is though. At Newcaslte he kind of reminded me of Gus Poyet - good midfield scorer but not that effective when asked to do something on the ball.

When Ali is out we miss somebody to run beyond the ball. Maybe it would be quite a shrewd signing.
 

dagraham

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From what I've seen of what the Geordies said about him it was his attitude and tendency to go missing in important games that pissed them off more than anything. I think the talent is there, and when he's comfortable he can be very, very good. It's when the pressure gets turned up he seems to wilt. That seems to be the attitude we've been trying to eradicate from our club over the last 2 years or so, so not sure I'd be happy with a player of that reputation coming in regardless of talent.

Sounds like he'd fit right in :D
 

CoopsieDeadpool

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Guy is an astute player. Liked him before he down graded to geordies. Couldn't believe it when they signed him. Saying that it concerns me, though all speculation we are not targeting a certain Modric, Coutinho type of player, which is what we need most imho. Unless we are bringing two attacking midfielders in which would make no sense.

Mate, I make no secret of my lack of knowledge when it comes to players from outside of our club BUT I can't think of 2 players that differ more than Coutinho & Modric?
 

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Tricky player to pin down.

Got a lot of his production in only a handful of games and most Geordies considered him to be one of the worst of the "bad eggs" at the club. That said I liked him in Holland and he's definitely got some skills, just not sure he's the type of AM that we need.

Interesting the article refers to impact sub and goal threat from midfield (I'm pleased we are looking at the former). 11 goals and 5 assists isn't a bad return in a relegated side. Even if he is a bit hit and miss, if you are not relying on him as a main source of goals (and we have other regular sources such as Kane and Alli) it could be very handy to have a versatile potential match winner in the side. A bit like a pacey Chadli.
 
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