Memphis Depay

[sandrosmydad]

Premiership experience, winning mentality, 100% effort every game, never say die spirit, versatility, course not

......I'll give you premiership experience. And he trys hard, and we'll let's face it, he has to as he has fuck all else in his locker. A winning mentality he may have from hanging around with kompany and basically playing a tiny role in an allstar team, and was effectively carried. Doubt city are going to miss him. Doubt we'll gain anything from him. Bet he ends up at Sunderland or West Ham.

 

[Sweech]

I don't think City would sell him for anything north of 10 mil, and we could likely coax him down somewhat on his salary conceding he wouldn't find a better team than us. He honestly couldn't have done any worse than the other options at winger for England in the two games, and he probably would've driven forward and challenged more than Gerrard and Henderson.

Selling price isn't always the hang up.

Wages for guys from a team like City can be completely unaffordable.

 

[DaSpurs]

Selling price isn't always the hang up.

Wages for guys from a team like City can be completely unaffordable.

Oh 4 real do City pay they're guys a lots of moneys?

 

[arunspurs]

With our limited budget I just think he is too big a risk

He would not come cheap and imho is just not proven enough to throw huge chunk of our budget at him

Someone like Milner while less glamourous would cost around 8-10m and is proven on both left and right

Disagree with Milner; He is a good pro & versatile; But this team doesnt need another squad player. We need a player to improve the XI. We struggled all season from left side, whether its left back or left wing. We tried Kane,Sigurdsson,Chadli, Townsend, Lamela, Eriksen,Lennon from LW & none worked.

We need a LW who is a upgrade on everyone in squad & becomes a automatic starter. If Depay is not that player, lets look for someone else but not Milner

 

[spurs9]

While I do want Kono for that LW spot, tbf we can't be sure Kono or Depay can provide goals in the Prem.

While there were a slew of factors that caused our problems last season, the inability to keep heads high due to a lack of a genuine leader on the pitch was certainly a prevalent inclusion among those factors.

I haven't seen anything from Milner to suggest he would provide that kind of leadership.

 

[DaSpurs]

I haven't seen anything from Milner to suggest he would provide that kind of leadership.

Well of course, but that's like assuming a captain can't be a good general because he's had several great leaders ahead of him (Kompany is a fantastic squad captain).

I'm not assuming he'd be exactly what we'd need, but more so arguing the fact that some good individual leadership could very much have helped prevent many of last season's fiascos.

 

[spurs9]

Well of course, but that's like assuming a captain can't be a good general because he's had several great leaders ahead of him (Kompany is a fantastic squad captain).

I'm not assuming he'd be exactly what we'd need, but more so arguing the fact that some good individual leadership could very much have helped prevent many of last season's fiascos.

The thing is I don't even see "good individual leadership" from him. I don't see the winning mentality or leadership that many on here either sees or assumes he has.

 

[DaSpurs]

The thing is I don't even see "good individual leadership" from him. I don't see the winning mentality or leadership that many on here either sees or assumes he has.

In regards to leadership, there are three kinds of psyches among humans. There are leaders, followers, and those who can lead but subvert to more authoritative figures with extreme loyalty. It seems to me, that especially along with his work ethic, Milner falls into this last category as evidenced here:

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2010/feb/28/james-milner-aston-villa-carling-cup

Again, I wouldn't prefer Milner to a player such as Kono. But conversely, I don't think we can necessarily rule him out as a leader because of his time spent at City (or Villa for that matter with Barry).

 

[arunspurs]

In regards to leadership, there are three kinds of psyches among humans. There are leaders, followers, and those who can lead but subvert to more authoritative figures with extreme loyalty. It seems to me, that especially along with his work ethic, Milner falls into this last category as evidenced here:

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2010/feb/28/james-milner-aston-villa-carling-cup

Again, I wouldn't prefer Milner to a player such as Kono. But conversely, I don't think we can necessarily rule him out as a leader because of his time spent at City (or Villa for that matter with Barry).

I need my leader to be automatic starter; Sorry Milner is not one for me

 

[DaSpurs]

I need my leader to be automatic starter; Sorry Milner is not one for me

I'm not sure why I'm continuing to have to defend my choice in rating Milner when I've said I'd prefer other players specifically, but I agree a leader should be automatic first choice. Which as of this moment, barring any other transfers (and I'm aware many wouldn't like this), were Milner to come in he'd be my first choice (if I were Poch and in consideration of his system) at LW for the league. I'd experiment with Chadli in the Rodriguez role in the cup games and against weaker competition, but at the beginning Milner would help provide experience, high work ethic in the press, and a winner's mentality to help bring the young players along in Poch's system.

But again, I would prefer Kono all things considered, and would also give him the first choice option in the league.

 

[luka loopy]

This is the kind of signing we should be going for. Unfortunately at this point in time we need to pay over the odds for a young player with a big reputation, in the hope that he becomes a player with a huge reputation that a bigger club will then pay over the odds for.

Whether Memphis is the player or not I don't know. We've seen enough players come from Holland in recent years to dispel the myth that players from the dutch league cant hack the premier league.

I just think Levy would be wary of spending BIG on another young prospect until he sees how Lamela turns out. While there are a number of factors surrounding Lamela's season last year, his transfer certainly cant be seen as a success at this moment in time, which I think will make Levy cautious.

Re Milner I understand peoples comments about his work rate suiting Potch's system, but we have plenty (too many) CM's at the moment. I dont think he is technically good enough, or intelligent enough to play in the system further foward as part of the three, nor would he contribute with enough goals.

 

[fecka]

Thinking about the fact that until last season we never paid more than £15m for any player before this seems a bit unrealistic. I really hope we see him in our shirt but not for that sum though. Anywhere between £8-12m and I would've bitten their hand off.

 

[markieboy]

Depay looks a very promising player who reminds me a lot of Raheem Sterling.

As for James Milner................I would not take him for free.

 

[DaSpurs]

Depay looks a very promising player who reminds me a lot of Raheem Sterling.

As for James Milner................I would not take him for free.

No Milner for free?! Please sir, point me in the direction of the utopia in which you live.

 

[markieboy]

No Milner for free?! Please sir, point me in the direction of the utopia in which you live.

I don't live in a utopia yet but I hope to.
Bringing in players like James Milner is a big step in the wrong direction.
We have enough of our own mediocre players in midfield without adding to them.

 

[DaSpurs]

I don't live in a utopia yet but I hope to.
Bringing in players like James Milner is a big step in the wrong direction.
We have enough of our own mediocre players in midfield without adding to them.

He may not be as much of a step in the right direction such as Depay or Kono, but as of this moment he'd be an improvement over our current options at LW.

 

[yiDONz]

Yes please. Something in the region of €15 million would be a steal. Massive talent and more proven than Konoplyanka (even though I like Kono)

 

[DaSpurs]

Yes please. Something in the region of €15 million would be a steal. Massive talent and more proven than Konoplyanka (even though I like Kono)

That's debatable, considering Kono has performed well at the international level for three years now while Depay has just recently come into the fold and only just scored his first goal for Holland.

 

[keithtighe93]

17m seems a bit steep! always wary of buying from the dutch league, for every RVP or Suarez theres an Alves or Kezman!

 

[Marcus_spur]

17m seems a bit steep! always wary of buying from the dutch league, for every RVP or Suarez theres an Alves or Kezman!

If the great/flop-rate is 50/50 I think we'd be wise to ransack the entire dutch league before anyone else realises