The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 2nd June 2012

[smudger]

Oh dear green turns down contract and will be leaving west ham, what itk linked him with us???

 

[doom]

Ha ha I was so tempted to do that gag after it was presented on a platter but thought a & c would have been all over it!!

so you saying David Platt will take over?

 

[StartingPrice]

There is nothing amiss in the relationship between Redknapp and Levy. Redknapp is grateful for Levy's support and Levy is keen to have Redknapp sign a longer term contract, with Spurs to press on next year. Fourth place was not a disaster, as many have claimed, as this had in fact been the aim at the outset of the season. Neither is Spurs' financial wellbeing based on CL qualification. There is a list of transfer targets that DL and HR have discussed and agreed and Vertonghen is one of the 'first' on that list. Others include a permanent deal for Adebayor, as well as another (younger) striker and a goalkeeper. Alongside this, Levy and the Board have been busy pushing through the new ground, and of course the new training facilities.

'Arry...'Arry, is that you?

 

[Living Legend Colm G]

so you saying David Platt will take over?

At least David Platt might persuade Luka to stay

 

[StartingPrice]

Sandro I'll give you (even though Harry apparently saw him twice for inter), but that's what scouting systems are for, especially in places like South America. You think Fergie knew much about Hernandez? Also, we have a link up between the clubs so it's not exactly an out of the blue signing, no matter who was in charge.

Or what misfit said.

Iirc, Beetroot Head saw hernandez in a pre-season friendly in the USA...and that sparked his interest.

 

[stemark44]

Just so I know, are people still believing that Harry didn't want or have any kind of say in the vdV transfer? Just so I know....

One thing for absolute certain about the VDV transfer.

Harry got Jamie to ring Ruud Gullit and ask him if VDV was worth the money Madrid had offered him to us.

Ruud stated this on TV.

That says that Harry wasn't so sure about the player and it would make one think that he didn't really rate him as a player.

The fact that Harry has subbed Rafa more times than any other player in the Premiership might also compound that idea.

Rafa might feel the love from the fans but he certainly ain't getting it from the manager.

The Schalke link might be a lot more worrying than we like to think.

 

[Wellspurs]

Green and Tomkins in, Defoe back to Spammers?

 

[danielneeds]

One thing for absolute certain about the VDV transfer.

Harry got Jamie to ring Ruud Gullit and ask him if VDV was worth the money Madrid had offered him to us.

Ruud stated this on TV.

That says that Harry wasn't so sure about the player and it would make one think that he didn't really rate him as a player.

The fact that Harry has subbed Rafa more times than any other player in the Premiership might also compound that idea.

Rafa might feel the love from the fans but he certainly ain't getting it from the manager.

The Schalke link might be a lot more worrying than we like to think.

Harry often asks people about players he is going to sign. Often people who have played with them, or know them personally. It is called doing background research, most managers will do it.

The fact that he subs him is that he has weak hamstrings, this has been stated many times.

 

[bomberH]

i read that as Sarcasm...

Misfit isn't sarcastic is he...?

It's one of those posts that can work either way. Everything he said is apparently true and can't be disproven - whereas an ITK (can't remember which one, possibly Ryan or jj) said that he did have a say in it. So we only have 'evidence' to suggest he was aware and his 'I didn't have much to do with it' interview in on the evening was referring to getting the transfer done and shouldn't be taken too literally.

SP, possibly. That's what happened with Ronaldo. Either way, one game isn't much to buy a player on. He'd have sent scouts to carry on watching him a bit more.

 

[kdspur]

One thing for absolute certain about the VDV transfer.

Harry got Jamie to ring Ruud Gullit and ask him if VDV was worth the money Madrid had offered him to us.

Ruud stated this on TV.

That says that Harry wasn't so sure about the player and it would make one think that he didn't really rate him as a player.

The fact that Harry has subbed Rafa more times than any other player in the Premiership might also compound that idea.

Rafa might feel the love from the fans but he certainly ain't getting it from the manager.

The Schalke link might be a lot more worrying than we like to think.

every single manager worth his salt will use any means necessary to get background on a potential signing to guage everything from character to actual playing ability. you dont play for real madrid or ajax cos u dont know your arse from your elbow. that nonsense talk saying harry wasnt sure if he did rate him.

fact he subbed him so much is almost in every single harry post match talk and admitted by vdv himself. he has weak hamstrings and with that comes fading in latter half of games where injuries come to the fore so in fact harry wud be more protecting player in a way than subbing him cos he does not rate him.

harry raves about vdv and if he didnt feel the love he certainly would not start him every single time. people slag off harry here cos he has his favourites and his love for ex players but is defoe such a favourite and if he is why doesnt he play him instead!?

schalke link is real and imvho only rafa knows whats best for him and family so no one knows what he wants to do or what he would ideally like to do. either way cheap digs at harry who knows a good footballer when he see's one is sad!

 

[bomberH]

One thing for absolute certain about the VDV transfer.

Harry got Jamie to ring Ruud Gullit and ask him if VDV was worth the money Madrid had offered him to us.

Ruud stated this on TV.

That says that Harry wasn't so sure about the player and it would make one think that he didn't really rate him as a player.

The fact that Harry has subbed Rafa more times than any other player in the Premiership might also compound that idea.

Rafa might feel the love from the fans but he certainly ain't getting it from the manager.

The Schalke link might be a lot more worrying than we like to think.

Danielneeds has answered this. The subbing has everything to do with injuries (in the majority of games) and the fact he often struggled to get match fit due to those injuries.

Asking Jamie doesn't mean he doesn't rate him, not sure why you've come to that conclusion. Jamie was a pro footballer of a very high standard, and his son, why wouldn't he get his opinion on him? Doing research to check if he fits in with our style of play etc isn't a bad thing.

At the end of the day, maybe Rafa doesn't like Redknapp. But there's no way we will know unless he comes out and says something if he leaves. Until then, the only proof we have is via quotes that praise him, suggesting they get on fine and there is mutual respect.

Sorry mods, gone right off topic here.

 

[SpurSince57]

Yeah. Remember that bit where they'd discussed VDV earlier in the window but the price and other clubs involved meant we put it to one side and sorta left it? Then DL got a call from RM and he in turn called H to ask if he was still keen?

No. No you don't because it was all a figment of your imagination.

Yes, it must have been. Not only is the Dear Leader an absolute whizz with the readies, he really knows his footy. Why, he had the foresight to sign the man who discovered Gael Clichy (allegedly) as Sporting Director. THat was a stroke of genius, wasn't it, girls and boys! And getting Wendy Random on board outdid that! He discovered Sandro, the Kyles and VdV himself, you know, so he's an ace scout. Not only that, he can pick up a phone and have a conversation with Maureen!

I'm surprised he doesn't take over the scouting, coaching and managing himself, I really am.

 

[Mr Pink]

I read that latest bit of ITK from the Goat that in addition to their internal discussions they were both still looking at other options ie, Levy thinking of replacements and Harry at other job offers?

 

[greaves]

'Arry...'Arry, is that you?

Well... now you mention it...

 

[SpurSince57]

I'll be absolutely devastated if Redknapp's contract is extended. I know there's talk of that.

An article recently stated that VDV has a problem withn Redknapp. That's one I didn't know. I wonder how many others are getting fed up with the man.

My great hope is that Redknapp will be gone. This summer.

Now where's the man with the balls...

I don't know. But I do know where several people talking balls are.

 

[greaves]

Harry often asks people about players he is going to sign. Often people who have played with them, or know them personally. It is called doing background research, most managers will do it.

The fact that he subs him is that he has weak hamstrings, this has been stated many times.

I object to this as I cannot disagree with it.

 

[Misfit]

Misfit isn't sarcastic is he...?

It's one of those posts that can work either way. Everything he said is apparently true and can't be disproven - whereas an ITK (can't remember which one, possibly Ryan or jj) said that he did have a say in it. So we only have 'evidence' to suggest he was aware and his 'I didn't have much to do with it' interview in on the evening was referring to getting the transfer done and shouldn't be taken too literally.

SP, possibly. That's what happened with Ronaldo. Either way, one game isn't much to buy a player on. He'd have sent scouts to carry on watching him a bit more.

I was indeed being sarcastic. Most will know I'm not H's biggest fan but to suggest he doesn't have an input, and a crucial one, when it comes to transfers is a little bit off. I really hope it is anyway or the problems within the club are scarily large.

What H does with the players once signed is where H and I go our separate ways.

I mean, to put this notion to bed - everything H has said about the backing he's recieved from DL indicates he's totally happy. The need to to spend this summer comments aside - but we all knwo he's right anyway and that seems to be the plan anyway. If H were being undermined by DL to the point that players are being signed without his knowledge or consent, we'd have known about it.

 

[SpurSince57]

One thing for absolute certain about the VDV transfer.

Harry got Jamie to ring Ruud Gullit and ask him if VDV was worth the money Madrid had offered him to us.

Ruud stated this on TV.

That says that Harry wasn't so sure about the player and it would make one think that he didn't really rate him as a player.

The fact that Harry has subbed Rafa more times than any other player in the Premiership might also compound that idea.

Rafa might feel the love from the fans but he certainly ain't getting it from the manager.

The Schalke link might be a lot more worrying than we like to think.

To those of us whose critical faculties are so atrophied that they believe the Hate-Mail, or who haven't read the comprehensive rubbishing of this bollocks Mawspurs put on the front page, maybe.

As Daniel and others have pointed out, VdV has dodgy hamstrings. I thought this was a widely-known fact. I thought wrong.

 

[bomberH]

I was indeed being sarcastic. Most will know I'm not H's biggest fan but to suggest he doesn't have an input, and a crucial one, when it comes to transfers is a little bit off. I really hope it is anyway or the problems within the club are scarily large.

What H does with the players once signed is where H and I go our separate ways.

I mean, to put this notion to bed - everything H has said about the backing he's recieved from DL indicates he's totally happy. The need to to spend this summer comments aside - but we all knwo he's right anyway and that seems to be the plan anyway. If H were being undermined by DL to the point that players are being signed without his knowledge or consent, we'd have known about it.

For the record, I figured you were being sarcastic, you're one of the most sarcastic posters on here (not a bad thing) but your first paragraph in this reply has confused me, because now it seems you agree with the fact that Harry did have a say.

I'm confused. But anyway, I need a poo.

Mr Pink, yeah it's not overly clear but I took it to mean they're discussing everything beginning with 'do you want to be here' & 'do I want you here' to 'how much do we need' and 'how long do you want' etc. Could be anything. If they don't get past the first couple of questions, we'll find out sooner rather than later I'm sure.

 

[Mr Pink]

For the record, I figured you were being sarcastic, you're one of the most sarcastic posters on here (not a bad thing) but your first paragraph in this reply has confused me, because now it seems you agree with the fact that Harry did have a say.

I'm confused. But anyway, I need a poo.

Mr Pink, yeah it's not overly clear but I took it to mean they're discussing everything beginning with 'do you want to be here' & 'do I want you here' to 'how much do we need' and 'how long do you want' etc. Could be anything. If they don't get past the first couple of questions, we'll find out sooner rather than later I'm sure.

Yeah its a tad ambiguous unfortunately (not meant in a critical way whatsoever by the way). Do 'other' options mean within the constraints of Harry still having a job here and its just the nature of the contract and his precise roles to find agreement on, or do they mean on a wider scale - ie they include discussing options of Harry leaving and how that would be settled?