yusrisafri
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Ŕichardson outshone him in the bad haircut department
Ratings vs Aston Villa
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yusrisafri
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garyhopkins
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He wasn't anonymous, more quietly effective or at least quietly anonymously effective or something. I like him and always keep an eye on him. He certainly didn't stick out in the first half as everything seemed to be going through (was orchestrated by) Dembele and Eriksen. But he works for the team, chasing and harrying, gets in good positions, got in the box with Kane, took defenders away from Kane, and always passed neatly and precisely. It was effective for the team, but probably not the '30mil brilliance' everyone seems to expect (Mark Pougatch nicely reminded us about the price tag expectations just before the game started in Asia).
For me Lamela has become a well oiled cog in Poch's machine. He fits for Poch (and me), but a lot of people seemingly need or want more. Anyway once Dembele went off he became more involved, and with that lovely pass to Kane emphasised how he's becoming more effective in this team.
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Lloris - 6
Walker - 7
Rose - 7
Alderweireld - 8
Vertonghen - 6.5
Dier - 7.5
Alli - 7
Dembele - 7
Lamela - 7.5
Eriksen - 7
Kane - 7.5
Walker - 7
Rose - 7
Alderweireld - 8
Vertonghen - 6.5
Dier - 7.5
Alli - 7
Dembele - 7
Lamela - 7.5
Eriksen - 7
Kane - 7.5
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Dier motm by some distance from Alli
dudu
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He played over half his passes backwards. While i think he had a decent game - i have to agree with you and say he still has a bit to do to convince me of a starting place when everyone is fit.
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I have not rated this as it was obviously a wind up post. Rose was excellent in everything he did and had some outstanding moments. He is an important player for us
dudu
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I dont see how Eriken can score worse than Lamela for anyone.
He made two of the goals (not the assists but finding players in huge amounts of space able to make assists better than he)
He had as many tackles as Lamela, probably ran just as far if not further than him (as he does most games), received the ball 30% more than him, had a (slightly) better pass completion and generally went about his work, as he had been of recent, with constant composure and an equally good work ethic.
Im not having a go at Lamela - really dont want to get peoples knickers in a twist - I just dont understand how two players can be rated differently for overall, quite similar performances - one that i even feel over the 90, Eriksen edged.
Ultimately though, its great to see everyone in some kind of decent form and long may it continue.
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Mr Pink
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First half was good but he still wasted some good crossing opportunities when he got into some really good positions.
Second half his touch was letting him down a bit. But overall he had a good game but I don't agree he was 'excellent' in everything he did.
But I certainly agree he's an important player for us and rate him highly.
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Rose MOTM for me, he was excellent throughout I thought, seen loads of the ball in the first half. Lamela was quality in 2nd half expecially when we needed some composure towards the end winding the clock down and got a lovely assist.
Walker improving which is good to see, he's fairly cut out the silly free kicks outside the box and not too many brain fart moments of note lately, long may it continue.
We never got out of 2nd gear last night, comfortable win albeit a 5-10 minute spell from Villa near the end, their goal seemed to spark us into life again.
Walker improving which is good to see, he's fairly cut out the silly free kicks outside the box and not too many brain fart moments of note lately, long may it continue.
We never got out of 2nd gear last night, comfortable win albeit a 5-10 minute spell from Villa near the end, their goal seemed to spark us into life again.
I thought Dembele was fantastic and has been the last couple of games. I thought our midfield in general was very good. Dier, Alli and Lamela all had good games.
Saying all that it's really hard to rate players in games like this, Villa were so poor that we barely broke sweat and won 3-1. They're going down, aren't they?
Saying all that it's really hard to rate players in games like this, Villa were so poor that we barely broke sweat and won 3-1. They're going down, aren't they?
funny that Eriksen had a hand in all 3 goals, but only 9 votes so far...
perhaps we're taking him for granted?
I do think people take players like Eriksen for granted when doing these kind of votes and I include myself in that having voted for Dembele. We become so used to Eriksen being quality that you always look for the other option or the 'unsung' option when voting. Eriksen is always good and actually he only stands out when he has a poor game. So it always seems like he gets more flak than he should.
Same for a lot of players over the years like Carrick, Berbatov, Modric. Their status of being quality players that no fan would criticise only seemed to happen after they left...
chrissivad
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funny that Eriksen had a hand in all 3 goals, but only 9 votes so far...
perhaps we're taking him for granted?
I don't think vote for MoTM show how well players played.
Eriksen played well, and while for me was up there in contention for my vote just misses out.
Some players seem to just pick up votes no matter what as well, and others seem to throw their votes away (like to fazio in the europa game)
It's a shame there is no quick or easy way to have an average rating of players each game.
JonnySpurs
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I often wonder what the heck people are watching after reading through this thread week on week. Some of the "assessments" are frickin mind blowing.
It's quite apparent that it was far from one of our better overall performances but I would strongly argue that this was as much due to the quality of opposition than anything. That doesn't make it ok, not by any stretch but there was clearly an air of complacency in our play in the 2nd half, particularly the last quarter. I would argue that wass because Villa offered almost nothing in the game until they got their goal and that was only from us being sloppy in possession and the shot took a big deflection. Only after their undeserved goal did they actually start to put us under some pressure and again that was more our own doing than anything else.
Once we finally got our shit together we scored what was a lovely 3rd goal. Great passing move, crackin finish and it proved how much better we were than Villa if we just stopped messing about. The game could've been killed off far earlier but I feel we sometimes get drawn into playing down to our opponent rather than just sticking to what we're good at. It happens all too often in the Europa League, the last game vs Anderlecht being a prime example.
As far as individuals go, those saying Lamela was MOTM are high on something. As others have mentioned, the last 10 mins was the only time that he really had any impact, before that he had a LOT of heavy touches and contributed very little. Reality though is that he got another good assist and even in his weaker games he manages to have a positive impact.
Excellent: Toby, Walker, Dier, Dembele
Good: Alli, Jan, Rose, Eriksen, Kane
Average: Lamela, Lloris
I'm putting Kane in the Good category cos he got his goal with a very assured finish but he did struggle at times. He was often double marked or set upon by more than one player as soon as he got it but I felt that he was trying too hard to score instead of letting the game just come to him. There were too many head down moments looking to get a shot off when he's far better at working with his teammates to need to do that. He takes up good positions so the ball will inevitably find him for chances to score (as it did for his goal) he doesn't need to try and force it.
It's quite apparent that it was far from one of our better overall performances but I would strongly argue that this was as much due to the quality of opposition than anything. That doesn't make it ok, not by any stretch but there was clearly an air of complacency in our play in the 2nd half, particularly the last quarter. I would argue that wass because Villa offered almost nothing in the game until they got their goal and that was only from us being sloppy in possession and the shot took a big deflection. Only after their undeserved goal did they actually start to put us under some pressure and again that was more our own doing than anything else.
Once we finally got our shit together we scored what was a lovely 3rd goal. Great passing move, crackin finish and it proved how much better we were than Villa if we just stopped messing about. The game could've been killed off far earlier but I feel we sometimes get drawn into playing down to our opponent rather than just sticking to what we're good at. It happens all too often in the Europa League, the last game vs Anderlecht being a prime example.
As far as individuals go, those saying Lamela was MOTM are high on something. As others have mentioned, the last 10 mins was the only time that he really had any impact, before that he had a LOT of heavy touches and contributed very little. Reality though is that he got another good assist and even in his weaker games he manages to have a positive impact.
Excellent: Toby, Walker, Dier, Dembele
Good: Alli, Jan, Rose, Eriksen, Kane
Average: Lamela, Lloris
I'm putting Kane in the Good category cos he got his goal with a very assured finish but he did struggle at times. He was often double marked or set upon by more than one player as soon as he got it but I felt that he was trying too hard to score instead of letting the game just come to him. There were too many head down moments looking to get a shot off when he's far better at working with his teammates to need to do that. He takes up good positions so the ball will inevitably find him for chances to score (as it did for his goal) he doesn't need to try and force it.
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People moaning about Dembele passing back so often clearly looked at the stats, and didn't bother to watch the game. Villa were more than happy to sit extremely deep so as not to get battered. Dembele played most of the game with his back to goal and was a constant outlet its why we maintained possession so well, and is no wonder he played so many balls backwards.
As for the performance we did what was required and clearly had another couple of gears had we needed them. I'm more than. Happy for us to play within ourselves, when we have two important games coming so close together.
Thought Rose was better, but I still worry he leaves too much space when he jaunts fotward. Arsenal will have a field day if he plays that way on Sunday.
As for the performance we did what was required and clearly had another couple of gears had we needed them. I'm more than. Happy for us to play within ourselves, when we have two important games coming so close together.
Thought Rose was better, but I still worry he leaves too much space when he jaunts fotward. Arsenal will have a field day if he plays that way on Sunday.
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No it isn`t a wind up post, I agree that Rose is a very important player for us, and it`s not knocking Danny in any malicious way, I just felt that it wasn`t one of his best performances given his usually high standards, chill dude.
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