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I don't think they are doing anything illegal but they will likely be as tax efficient as possible or use limited companies to manage their tax. Nothing dodgy just what you expect from Rich people being greedy...

Technically, if you're working a fixed contract that has benefits equal to that of an employee then you should be taxed as an employee (PAYE). It's all in IR35 and is more complicated than I've put in a sentence, but the overall sentiment is the same. The loopholes seem to be related to their separate image rights, such as sponsorship and advertising etc. I think a lot has been tackled by HMRC as they were on the case back in 2011:

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/...ootballers-pay-22-tax-thanks-to-loophole.html
 

mendesstormer

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Ade rarely scores from 35 yards and rarely out of nothing. Agreed his contribution, when available for selection which isn't any where near enough considering his wages, has been more valid than soldados. I think that is most peoples problem with him, he is so capable but he just can't be bothered to do what a Drogba has done and actually effect games in a big way. One of the pundits said recently that with his physique and technique he should be at Real or Barcelona but due to his mentality he is at Tottenham. That is so true and sadly I can't see it ever changing.

The fact is we need him on side and performing until we can sign someone better which is difficult because he has all that potential to be great.

I'm not sure his technique is really that great, though. Or at least, you can't rely on him producing it under pressure. How often does he fluff easy chances? Agree with the rest, though. We need him for now. and if we can get him back to somewhere near his best, he's still got plenty to contribute.
 

Coyboy

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I'm not sure his technique is really that great, though. Or at least, you can't rely on him producing it under pressure. How often does he fluff easy chances? Agree with the rest, though. We need him for now. and if we can get him back to somewhere near his best, he's still got plenty to contribute.

Every striker misses chances mate. It’s how they play after and before missed chances that matters.

Adebayor’s record in the EPL for Arsenal, City and us is 1 goal in 2.3 games. By way of comparison, Bony’s is 1 in 2.1 and he requires a hell of a lot of shots to get those goals; and he is also one whom was mooted as a possible signing for us but of course has gone to City for £28mil so I am not sure we could have got him.
 

lol

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will probably start to see him put more effort now imo. about time to warm up for contract season.
 

Mr Pink

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i know he's not really a good fit for Poch's style but I think we should use him as a decent plan B from the bench.

Lets be honest, he offers more than Bobby - and on a good day there's no comparison.

Providing he isn't upsetting squad harmony and will do what Poch asks of him, I think he could strengthen us for the second half of the season.

Hopefully Poch can manage him cutely.
 

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i know he's not really a good fit for Poch's style but I think we should use him as a decent plan B from the bench.

Lets be honest, he offers more than Bobby - and on a good day there's no comparison.

Providing he isn't upsetting squad harmony and will do what Poch asks of him, I think he could strengthen us for the second half of the season.

Hopefully Poch can manage him cutely.

I'm picturing Poch disguised as a Witch Doctor, offering him a cunning solution to his Juju
 

Spurger King

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i know he's not really a good fit for Poch's style but I think we should use him as a decent plan B from the bench.

Lets be honest, he offers more than Bobby - and on a good day there's no comparison.

Providing he isn't upsetting squad harmony and will do what Poch asks of him, I think he could strengthen us for the second half of the season.

Hopefully Poch can manage him cutely.

His form comes in patches though. Not sure how useful he'd be making only occasional appearances, and I can't see him replacing Kane.
 

Coyboy

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His form comes in patches though. Not sure how useful he'd be making only occasional appearances, and I can't see him replacing Kane.

Doesn't everyone's though? Isn't that the nature of 'form'? In fact wasn't his form in 11/12 and Dec 13 to the end of the season fairly consistent rather than patchy?
 

Borks

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Like I've said before, other plays play badly = dip in form, Ade plays badly = lazy and unmotivated.
 

SpurSince57

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I'm not sure his technique is really that great, though. Or at least, you can't rely on him producing it under pressure. How often does he fluff easy chances? Agree with the rest, though. We need him for now. and if we can get him back to somewhere near his best, he's still got plenty to contribute.

Far less often than Mr Bobby, and at least he gets an impressive 70% of shots on target. This season, like 2012-13, he's been putting the ball too close to the keeper, but that's got to be better than putting it wide from six yards or less. In his two good seasons he's been a highly clinical finisher.

That said, I was beginning to fear that the plot-loss was terminal. If Pochettino's managed to sort his head out and get him back to something like his best, I really will start to be convinced by the Man from Murphy.
 

Kaboul'sForehead

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This is all I will say on the matter: if Kane and Adebayor are still not getting on and Kane's form drops because he is unhappy or replaced by that swaggering, arrogant arse compared to the ever-working determined, Spurs boy Kane, I want Adebayor OUT once and for all.
 

Kendall

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As per things like IR35 though, I can also see that there is far too much money in the Premier League (probably more than the Google/Amazon tax avoidance) for them to not be doing things straight up. Would a club also risk it, especially after what happened with Rangers?

I also don't know whether Adebayor's supposed charitable contributions would help offset some tax in a normal way
Only UK registered charities would count for tax relief, as I understand it, Ades charities are Africa registered, though I guess there could be a linked UK charity company.
 

SpurSince57

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This is all I will say on the matter: if Kane and Adebayor are still not getting on and Kane's form drops because he is unhappy or replaced by that swaggering, arrogant arse compared to the ever-working determined, Spurs boy Kane, I want Adebayor OUT once and for all.

They reportedly had one bust-up. How serious this was, no-one knows, but I doubt such rucks are rare occurrences, particularly when the whole team has had a bad day at the office—and this was supposed to be after the Stoke game, the low point of the season. There is absolutely no evidence that there was any animosity beforehand, or that there has been any since; all that seems clear is that Adebayor's head hasn't been right, probably since the start of the season (or from birth, some would say).
 

mpickard2087

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This is all I will say on the matter: if Kane and Adebayor are still not getting on and Kane's form drops because he is unhappy or replaced by that swaggering, arrogant arse compared to the ever-working determined, Spurs boy Kane, I want Adebayor OUT once and for all.

So what you are saying is that if Kane's form does tail off before the end of the season, which lets be brutally honest is highly likely given the run he has been on, you are going to guess its something to do with Adebayor if they are in the same squad...?

If Poch has brought him back in to the fold it cant be much of an issue anymore.
 

cozzo

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This is all I will say on the matter: if Kane and Adebayor are still not getting on and Kane's form drops because he is unhappy or replaced by that swaggering, arrogant arse compared to the ever-working determined, Spurs boy Kane, I want Adebayor OUT once and for all.

That's a childish approach. Would it be the same for you if Kane was upset by Lloris or Eriksen?
 

Bus-Conductor

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Like I've said before, other plays play badly = dip in form, Ade plays badly = lazy and unmotivated.


There are definitely phases when Adebaypr's head is not right. It could very well be clinical depression, PTSD from the horrific even he went through, etc etc, but he has always been a guy who's emotional state has effected his game, even before the shooting.

This almost certainly applies to other players too, but has been very noticeable with Adebayor.
 

Borks

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There are definitely phases when Adebaypr's head is not right. It could very well be clinical depression, PTSD from the horrific even he went through, etc etc, but he has always been a guy who's emotional state has effected his game, even before the shooting.

This almost certainly applies to other players too, but has been very noticeable with Adebayor.

Not denying that but my post you quoted is true, I can't ever remember a spurs fan calling Ade unlucky or just out of form in the same way Soldado or any others are. So why is it assumed that Ade is the only player in the world that decides whether he plays well or not, where the others are restricted to how lucky they are?
 

Kendall

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Doesn't everyone's though? Isn't that the nature of 'form'? In fact wasn't his form in 11/12 and Dec 13 to the end of the season fairly consistent rather than patchy?

Soldado?

I'd rather have patches than a scalded surface where a patch apparently once was.
 

spursbri111

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No I have seen Ade press a great deal, more than Soldado and unlike Soldado he has the physique and athleticism to hold the ball up well.
he has those qualities but rarely uses them, thats why we get so frustrated with him
 
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