David Lammy MP

Discussion in 'The New Stadium' started by andyw362, Jan 14, 2011.

  1. BuffaloSid

    BuffaloSid Active Member

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    stadium costs and transfer bugets are seperate because levy says its so ..
    the club only has x amount of money ..however you break it down .
     
  2. SpurSince57

    SpurSince57 Well-Known Member

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    Yet you're anxious for the taxpayer to subsidise Spurs plc's stadium expansion in Tottenham, and quite happy for £500m' worth of taxpayers' money to be written off so Spurs plc and AEG can take over the OS?

    If Lammy had done anything horrendously wrong, let alone illegal, it would have come out when the Telegraph blew the gaff, so stow this self-righteous crap. After all, when Cameron's charging the taxpayer to have his wisteria trimmed…
     
  3. SpurSince57

    SpurSince57 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, well the economic climate's changed somewhat since the Immigrants was built, and Haringey's just had nearly £90m' worth of government grant chopped; perhaps the council should cut even more jobs and services in order to make Spurs a more attractive investment proposition?

    Lammy's made himself look an arse, but there seem to be several people on here keen to outdo him.
     
  4. Samson

    Samson Well-Known Member

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    The wages budget and turnover are clearly related.
     
  5. Dr Know

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    I get the feeling from alot of neutral fans/people that we will be hated for tearing down the stadium after their taxes built it. There are a fair few people in that community that feel the OS will be a major land mark and will be part of the history in East London and Spurs are looking to spoil that
     
  6. michaelden

    michaelden Knight of the Fat Fanny

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    Yes. they can be Tottenham FC. We will stay Tottenham HOTSPUR FC
     
  7. Samson

    Samson Well-Known Member

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    Agreed, but it's a massive misrepresentation of what's going to happen. The athletics people have been allowed to spend the thick end of 600 million on a temporary stadium, which will need to be torn down anyway. If West Ham get it, the Government will need to cover the costs of conversion, at another 100-150 million. The scandal, should that happen, will be even greater.
     
  8. michaelden

    michaelden Knight of the Fat Fanny

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    WHAT A LOAD OF BOLLOCKS!

    The tax payer is making £300m on the site. It cost £500M - the lease with be £800 over 200 years. This nonsense that it cost the taxpayer is newspaper talk.

    On top of that, how can Spurs design & build a purpose built 1st class stadium for £250M and a temporary shell cost £500M (assuming the surrounding infrastructure doesn't cost £250M Eek )? You have to question the ODA for truly screwing up both the design and sustainability of the site.
     
  9. Lilbaz

    Lilbaz Just call me Baz

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    They did build the island which the stadium is built on. They also had to remove the contaminated soil. Link it up to power, water etc... Spurs wont have to do any of that. There's probably loads of other things but I will leave that to people with expertise as I know f all about construction.
     
  10. Lilbaz

    Lilbaz Just call me Baz

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    The truth is that the decision for the future of the OS should have been decided before they even started building works. How the f**k WH are going to upgrade it I don't know and costing £180m to do it (the estimated guess in that report) is just staggering.
     
  11. striebs

    striebs Well-Known Member

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    Kishman and others .

    Lammy doesn't have a magic wand .

    You can bet has already done everything possible in his very limited power to keep Tottenham in the area .

    He's resorting to this desperate tactic because he's exhausted the other options . If you can think of something he hasn't tried I'm sure he'd be all ears .

    The difference between the two sites appears to be that the OS site would be more attractive as a concert and event venue .

    So what the OS site loses in terms of football (and it does because we would no longer be in our area) , it gains in terms of ££££ .

    Personally I find big stadium concerts souless .
     
  12. fieryjack

    fieryjack Well-Known Member

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    No one likes us, we dont care.
    The post olympics stadium tenants should`ve, in a perfect world, been sorted before it was built. Like they were in manchester.
    Its obviously too big for athletics and rubbish for football with a running track.
     
  13. worcestersauce

    worcestersauce "I'm no optimist I'm just a prisoner of hope

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    I just can't help thinking, David imagine how much more weight your arguments would carry if you'd ever been to the ground to watch the team play, actually bought a ticket and taken any interest in the club.

    I understand that he wants to keep Spurs where they are but lets not mistakenly believe it's got anything to do with the club, it's history or it's fans, it isn't and if a major employer came in to set up shop on the site he'd be pushing us all the way down river to the Olympic Park himself; I'm not saying he's wrong to do that as he's the local MP and has no responsibility for or affiliation to the club whatsoever.
     
  14. Azrael

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    I have not commented on the OS yet in any thread, but I have to say that I have issues with going to Stratford if it is to be on permanent basis. I usually look at club issues logically and business like and get slated for it. But on this my emotion overrides.

    I accept that Tottenham is a shithole. It is one of, if not the poorest areas in London. There are arguments that taking the club away rids the area of jobs. Frankly that's crap. How many African blacks and Kosovans/ Albanians do we see working at the club? Very few. Most THFC staff already live outside of the area and the locals don't get those jobs. Frankly the only people who get an immediate, realisable business advantage are the pubs and fried chicken/burger places around WHL. So I can see the commercial logic of the move.

    But here's the catch. I support Spurs because it is the closest PL club to where I was born and raised. Take the club away from the area and the closest club becomes the scum. That, in itself, is hard enough to stomach. But furthermore it is the only aspect of the area that is recognisable and associated with history. Take that away and Tottenham is left to become nothing but a cesspit of poverty and criminality. That isn't right. Stratford is already being regenerated. Tottenham deserves the same instead of being cast onto the scrap pile of filth and scum.

    Being a Tory I don't have much time for people like Lammy. But what he is saying and doing is exactly what he was elected for. To defend the best interests of his constituents...and on this I agree with him 100%.
     
  15. Azrael

    Azrael Banned

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    So what exactly is your point? That Lammy should be labelled a twat by Spurs fans because he doesn't watch football?
     
  16. worcestersauce

    worcestersauce "I'm no optimist I'm just a prisoner of hope

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    No that's not my point at all, read my post again and come back when you've understood it. If you still can't see my point come back and ask me nicely and I'll explain it to you.
     
  17. Azrael

    Azrael Banned

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    Instead of a "you are stupid because you can't understand my highly intelligent post" condescending put down, how about being mature and explaining it to me again in different words?
     
  18. Lilbaz

    Lilbaz Just call me Baz

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    I once had a big argument with a mate of mine. A few punches were thrown but nothing serious, then some guy I'd never met before came over to me and started slagging off my mate saying he was **** and was bang out of order. I ended up nutting him, no-one slags off my mate.

    David Lammy is slagging off my mate.
     
  19. MR_BEN

    MR_BEN Well-Known Member

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    rediculous comment.
     
  20. Azrael

    Azrael Banned

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    Just a heads up, amend you post as trying to include the C word in the way you have will get you a warning on this board.
     

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