Match Threads Everton Vs Spurs

[ChaoticBeaver]

I forgot about the match as well, we’re so boring to watch right now and the players don’t give a shit.

Hopefully we can sort a new manager soon, need someone to come in and galvanise the players and fans.

 

[DenverSpur]

The only thing you can take away from that game is that Tottenham players have shit for brains. 1-0 up against 10 men and we think it’s a good tactic to f*ck around trying to play out from the back allowing them to pressurize us in our final third and giving them belief. Why not play it long and put pressure on them in their half. Then needless fouls all over the place cumulating in Lucas’s brain fart. Mindless.
Conte was right. They are team of losers. They don’t have the ability, balls or nous to see out a game against a relegation team even when they’ve got 10 men.

 

[Trent Crimm]

Not sure if I am ashamed to say it or not. However while I have a lot going on personally and professionally. Over the weekend I knew we were playing Monday and had plans to watch the game live if I could.

However with all going I actually woke up went about my day and forgot we were playing. First time in 40 odd years following Spurs that has happened.

Sums a-lot up as I have become so apathetic and numb to the team recently. However having invested massive amounts personally, emotionally and financially in the club I was really upset today.

What has happened at this club over recent years has left me drained. Sure for a 50 yr old you might tell me to get a grip and there are more important things. But for me Spurs has been a massive part of my identity for most of my life.

Football is important to me as are Spurs, just sadly not today.

Fuck me. Spurs have even broken Bryan Adam’s.

 

[DenverSpur]

Should of brought Sarr and gone 4-3-3...control and see the game out..


Its not rocket science yet he let's us retreat and invite the inevitable..

The thing is we didn’t so much retreat we instead invited them to pressurize us in our final third by insisting on needlessly playing out from the back. The common sense approach would have been to get the ball up into their half as quickly as possible and put them under pressure.

 

[DenverSpur]

But no brain.

Needless silly fouls all over the pitch.

 

[thehipster]

I just think winning isn't important enough as a club. I think there's a really poor mentality running through the place and I think for the new players coming in it's so easy to adopt that mentality.

I don't think it's the fact that the players don't want to win.
But I've been harping on for the past couple of years how important elite sports psychology is these days.
Heart and Passion don't win games anymore. It runs much deeper than that.
There needs to be an internal intelligence within the players that allows them to deal with in-game pressure, setbacks, changes in tactics etc.
These are skills that can't be taught by most football coaches, because they themselves, haven't been educated in such areas.
It's a bit like asking the tea lady to be responsible for a fine-dining banquet.

Other professional sports use elite mind experts.
I would avoid traditional psychologists. There are better, more advanced specialists that draw from a far broader field than purely Western psychology.

But I do feel for the players. Every season they are having a new philosophy, a new way of training, a new style of playing, a new half-skewed old-school coaching psychology installed into them.
In Conte's - literally battered into them.
Frankly, their heads must be spinning. They've heard so many different views these past 3-4 years....as to what's right and what's wrong...they must be in a daze of tactics and philosophy.
The amount of over-thinking they've been doing is so unhealthy. Yet, that's been the over-coaching styles of Conte and Mourhino especially.

These players are human beings, doing the best job they can.
Unfortunately,, they are so cloudy ad foggy in the brain right now...that they've run out of energy and enthusiasm.
They've lost all 'natural' inherent feel for the game.
Conte spent ages encouraging them NOT to think for themselves, to follow his barking orders from the sideline.
Now, they're frozen. Rabbits in headlights.
And they're going to need a bit of time to find their joy for the game again, which in doing so, will allow them to think for themselves and play good football again.

Most fans, of course, will be purely fixated on Champions League positions.
Me...I really feel for the players. And their families.
They're human beings with feelings.
They've been hurled around inside a blender for the past 4 years because of terrible Boardroom indecision and dated, old-school tactics.
And then they get abuse from fans...without the fans having spent a day in their stressed/confused heads.

Personally, for next season, I would hire someone like Peter Crone - The Mind Architect.
He's an Englishman living in the States and works with elite athletes over there.
I would hire him before any manager and make him the pivotal to everything Spurs do from now onwards.
He would sit at the very heart of the club...pulsing out a new philosophy and rock-solid psychology.

I would then hire a manager that was happy to work with Peter. And happy to be coached by him.
And in tandem - educate all squads to think in a far more empowering and efficient manner.
With fun and freedom at the very heart of it...unshackling from the negative thought patterns and really tapping into the human potential.
Then the manager and the club have a really solid foundational base to build something exceptional for many decades to come.
To instill an ideology to compete with every other team in the world. And obviously a few extra players too.

In doing so, I would clear all expectations for next season as you bedded everything in and upped the education.

Just my views. But no doubt too radical for most.



* on a side note, you fans do realise that all those players that you want to buy from other teams. The players you so eagerly want at Spurs?
You're not really buying their physiology, their fitness, their skills, their pace.
You're buying their psychology.
They've shown they can perform well under pressure, displaying outstanding confidence and trusting their skills when it matters most.
The game is ALL ABOUT psychology, whether it's learnt at the club...or as a boy growing up around certain influential caregivers and inspirational people.
It's a learnt skill....and considering the amount of money in the Premier League, a vastly underutilised commodity.

 

[michaelj70]

Has it been mentioned about Sons reaction when Porros cross goes flying out in 2nd half
Like a little spoilt 9 year old
People in glass hoses Sonny

 

[punkisback]

I don’t think it’s selfishness or the players not giving a fuck. It is mental weakness but that weakness is linked to poor technical capacity. Having no footballer in central midfield - no Eriksen, no Dembele, no Bentancur even - means there’s just no composure or ability to retain the ball when the pressure’s on.

This is as a result of the previous coaches strategic direction of our playing style ergo affecting our recruitment.

 

[EastUpperDK82]

I'm still fuming this morning ... f*** embarrassment... can't watch this crap anymore.... what a cowardly approach. That 2nd half was just mind-blowingly stupid.

What have we become ?? ... is this really how we want to look as a team... 9 games left like this

 

[srups34]

Even if we had won the game 1-0. It was horrible to watch. I hope Brighton put us out of our misery on Saturday. We should not be anywhere near 4th and it will only paper over the massive cracks if we manage to win. I’ll keep an eye on the score of the game but that’s me done watching the horror show football that has been served up to often this season.

 

[EastUpperDK82]

Even if we had won the game 1-0. It was horrible to watch. I hope Brighton put us out of our misery on Saturday. We should not be anywhere near 4th and it will only paper over the massive cracks if we manage to win. I’ll keep an eye on the score of the game but that’s me done watch the horror show football that has been served up far to much this season.

Yes. I'm not going to watch... that's for sure. Done.

 

[Jamturk]

Mourinho/Conte turned our squad away from players with real talent and skill in favour of hard working runners so how can we be surprised that we can't keep hold of a game when pressed?

It's not rocket science, it's why we look so much better with Bentancaur in the team.

For me we should of taken off a forward and put on Pape Sarr, he has some of the technical ability lacking in Skipp and Hjobjerg.

 

[Smokinhotspur]

I forgot about the match as well, we’re so boring to watch right now and the players don’t give a shit.

Hopefully we can sort a new manager soon, need someone to come in and galvanise the players and fans.

Wishful thinking. We have no hope of sorting a new manager anytime soon as no one worth their salt will agree to join with the Paratici debacle hanging in the air.

Also the vast majority of the players need shipping out not galvanising as what we see week in week out is exactly who they are. No amount of coaching/motivation can get a tune out of most of this lot.

 

[Mattyhp]

I think last night was a great example of what conte was referring to in his press conference. The fundamentals of any team is work rate and desire. I just don’t think this core group can consistently demonstrate they have it, which is a massive concern. I think a lot of fans hope this is solved by tactics/formation/style of play but I fear unless we cut even deeper with this squad history tells us they can roll their sleeves up for a year or two then revert to type, because actually working hard everyday in any walk of life isn’t for everyone. If people want to know why it’s gone so bad on the pitch this season Vs last I’d look very closely at the players as despite his personal issues I very much doubt conte dropped his standards or intensity. Rigid tactics absolutely, but the same system and approach had us as one of the form teams heading into this season.

 

[ComfortablyNumb]

No surprises. Same players, same formation, essentially the same coaching staff, what did we expect? Conte's automations will take time to fade away, and Stellini needs to make sure they are replaced with something as well drilled, but more flexible, 'cos this squad is clearly not going to be playing instinctively any time soon. Changing culture is an ugly, difficult process in any walk of life or business.

 

[Joshua shepherd]

For 20 mins today and that extra man stayed in defence as it always does. It’s been happening all season. I find the lengths people will go to defend Conte from any responsibility for this season absolutely extraordinary. He did a shit job. None of your retorts change that or even address it

He’s not even here and he’s still getting the blame. In the last two games we’ve been 3-1 up and 1-0 up against ten men, do you really believe capitulating in both games is down to the manager?

 

[teok]

 

[Norgie]

It was a really poor game last night and I am ashamed to say this but when Everton scored I wasn't bothered in fact they deserved it. I didn't want to win that game on that performance, what a sad thing to say.

Obviously tactics played a massive part but last night's game highlighted massively how much we miss Bentancur, he drives us forward, chases and hassles players and can play a pass, we missed that last night hugely.

 

[Trix]

For 20 mins today and that extra man stayed in defence as it always does. It’s been happening all season. I find the lengths people will go to defend Conte from any responsibility for this season absolutely extraordinary. He did a shit job. None of your retorts change that or even address it

Nobody is defending Conte from any responsibility. Not one person. I think pretty much every Spurs fan acknowledges that what is happening is a collective issue and you are only interpreting it that way because you think it's the main problem. If any supporter can't see that our problems right now are literally from top to bottom then they need to have a serious rethink about what they are watching.

In no particular order our issues this season are and have been the chairman, the board, the DOF, The manager/coaching team, the players, and a section of the fanbase. At no time have I absolved Conte from any responsibility, but what I have done is chosen to focus my attention on the guy who is ultimately responsible for it all. So it looks like I am only blaming Levy. I'm not. What I witnessed last not wasn't his doing that was ultimately on Stelinni and Mason for their tactics, and for me more so on the players for not putting the required effort in.

 

[MightyModric]

It's really really hard to care anymore.

It's obvious the majority of the team aren't arsed, bringing on Lucas Moura and Sanchez as our only subs doesn't help either