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Match Threads Spurs Vs AC Milan

Date
Mar 8, 2023
KO Time
20:00
Score
Spurs 0-0 AC Milan

Match Prediction

  • Spurs advances to the next knockout stage of the Champion League

    Votes: 77 37.6%
  • Spurs knocked out of the Champions League

    Votes: 128 62.4%

  • Total voters
    205

YB123

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Aug 27, 2006
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I went (admittedly not been to many games this season), and whilst I didnt sing for Poch, as much as he is my preferred option, - bollocks should the fans be ashamed. They went to the game, in the freezing cold, having spent their hard earned money in the all after a tough day at work using shitty transport - they didnt exactly sing it loud and proud in the stadium - it was in the concourses.

But it is alright for Conte to big up other clubs right AC Milan, Chelsea previously etc etc etc? bollocks should the fans be ashamed.
I heard it before the game, during and after. After I understand because its frustration and as for fans going in the cold, i'm one of them there weekly spending thousands, like tonight.

Conte isnt a saint but back the team and manager throughout and then frustrations after.
 
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muel

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Yes that is a good point to be fair. I agree levy isn’t going anywhere and we have to live with that, but I think he gets off far too lightly, people are quick to turn on the manager when they should be directing their frustration at the board imo. And trust me I’m not defending conte here, tonight’s performance was pathetic and I’m massively frustrated by it

Yep. The board have a lot to answer for. I wish club ownership was a democracy and they were voted in/out.

Having said that. With 3 transfer windows, money spent and a number of players brought in. We’ve got objectively worse under Conte
 

Joe Bjorn Hotspur

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And more than this, there was a real positive vibe around the place before the game. It’s just the going in and sitting through that abject shit that slowly drains your enthusiasm.
Most definitely, exactly this, most were up for it and even after a reboot at half time fans collectively tried again. Then the usual slow puncture of a realisation that yet again we’re going through the motions. People getting soaked and still trying to be positive, lots behind the goal getting behind them and being so close the players were just not bothered and didn’t reciprocate yet again. PEH the only one to interact and at least show that he may give a monkeys.
 

Joe Bjorn Hotspur

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I went (admittedly not been to many games this season), and whilst I didnt sing for Poch, as much as he is my preferred option, - bollocks should the fans be ashamed. They went to the game, in the freezing cold, having spent their hard earned money in the all after a tough day at work using shitty transport - they didnt exactly sing it loud and proud in the stadium - it was in the concourses.

But it is alright for Conte to big up other clubs right AC Milan, Chelsea previously etc etc etc? bollocks should the fans be ashamed.
Yep share your view JCRD, not a huge number of them singing for Poch anyway. Just epitomises how misdirected people feel and they articulate it in other ways, the numerous projects have been exhausting over the past 4 years plus. I wouldn’t say shame on you though just like you said in other words, fans turn up for entertainment and a team that they can identify with.
 

PaulM

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Feb 9, 2005
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Even with the rigid formation we have, the players have to take some of the blame, everything was done in slow motion, the passing was so slow. The couple of times when we moved the ball quickly, we created chances. But time and again the slow playing out from the back allowed them to organise their defence. We continued to attack at walking pace.
The players had nowhere to go. There was very little on and that’s because we went out not to lose that game first and foremost. My 10 year old was watching and could see “they have to go back because they have no options.”

That’s the manager’s tactics. Shocking.
 

PaulM

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That is just peak spurs isn’t it? Season done in the space of 7 or 8 days
To paraphrase the great Homer Simpson, there are 3 ways to do something. The right way, the wrong way and the Spurs way.

The Spurs way is the wrong way but faster.
 

ralphs bald spot

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the biggest indictment of tonight and the season as whole is that I don't care and I have never felt like that about a Spurs team- I have had a season ticket for over 40 years and yes I will renew but this managers brand of football is soulless let it end
 

Joe Bjorn Hotspur

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The players had nowhere to go. There was very little on and that’s because we went out not to lose that game first and foremost. My 10 year old was watching and could see “they have to go back because they have no options.”

That’s the manager’s tactics. Shocking.
That’s what I could see as well from the South stand. The same old defence first approach to the side and then backwards. No risk at all and it was a knock out game which at times you’d think it wasn’t.
 

Meds

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Jul 21, 2006
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Obviously it’s not as simple as saying this malaise is just the fault of the chairman, or the manager, or the players. They all have blame to share around.

I’m no BSODL, and give him credit for many aspects of the way the club is run. But the litany of managerial failures is something you can’t ignore. We seem no closer to bridging the gap to the top, and we’ve marginalised the academy, many fans and (it would seem) much of the first team along the way. But then, as Newcastle show, you should be careful what you wish for with an ownership change.

I’m also no great fan of Conte. I recognise what he has won in the past, but I fail to see how we are playing better than late-stage Mourinho. I also don’t see how he turns it around - even if he wanted to (which evidently he doesn’t).

Kane leaving is the likely conclusion of this mess, and we won’t get another one like him for a while.
 

coy-spurs1882

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Obviously it’s not as simple as saying this malaise is just the fault of the chairman, or the manager, or the players. They all have blame to share around.

I’m no BSODL, and give him credit for many aspects of the way the club is run. But the litany of managerial failures is something you can’t ignore. We seem no closer to bridging the gap to the top, and we’ve marginalised the academy, many fans and (it would seem) much of the first team along the way. But then, as Newcastle show, you should be careful what you wish for with an ownership change.

I’m also no great fan of Conte. I recognise what he has won in the past, but I fail to see how we are playing better than late-stage Mourinho. I also don’t see how he turns it around - even if he wanted to (which evidently he doesn’t).

Kane leaving is the likely conclusion of this mess, and we won’t get another one like him for a while.
for a while? not even till the world ends...
 

DenverSpur

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An analysis of the match is pointless it was just a continuation of the last two games.
Two and a half weeks ago we were basking in the glow of 2 good wins against local rivals with what I think was our best starting 11. We had momentum and positivity looking forward to a favorable draw in the FA Cup, which we had high hopes of winning, a fairly easy run of games in the league to help consolidate 4th place and a 2nd leg of the CL at home against a struggling Milan team with only a 1-0 deficit to overcome.

Then we decided to fiddle with things, with a winning formula. In the next 3 games we had the wrong starting line up, the wrong attitude and the wrong application and now we have nothing to show for it but bitter and angry fans; no FA Cup run, no CL last 8 alongside the big boys and probably little prospect of 4th place.

Sheffield Utd didn’t beat us, Wolves didn’t beat us and Milan didn’t beat us, over 2 legs, Tottenham Hotspur beat us. Or rather the curse of Tottenham Hotspur beat us. It’s no use blaming the manager, or the players or even Levy. It’s who we are- losers with a total lack of a winning mentality or desire.

I’ve supported Spurs for over 60 years and I’ve seen this same scenario, in various guises, play out time and time again. We continually snatch defeat from the jaws of victory and it doesn’t matter who the owners, managers or players are we as a club are incapable of becoming a regular successful trophy winning entity.

That’s another empty season over. Thanks to the total incompetence of our board who have proven that they have no idea of how to run a FOOTBALL CLUB we have no plan of where we go from here.
It’s going to get ugly.
 

DenverSpur

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We’re absolutely broken right now. What an absolute mess Daniel Levy has turned the football team into since sacking Poch. This, all of this, stops at him and he’s the mug who’s gonna remain in charge of decision making.
Every football decision he’s made since 2018 when Poch told him we needed to rebuild the squad has been wrong. I know he’s making money for ENIC but surely somebody close to Joe Lewis can see that as far as the football side of things are he’s an embarrassing failure.
 

dtxspurs

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Every football decision he’s made since 2018 when Poch told him we needed to rebuild the squad has been wrong. I know he’s making money for ENIC but surely somebody close to Joe Lewis can see that as far as the football side of things are he’s an embarrassing failure.
Take this Summer for example though, supposedly Spurs/Conte wanted Gvardiol or Bastoni. Neither were gettable & if we bought Badiashile in the Summer, who's to say Conte would have even played him, like he's doing with Danjuma and did with Spence?

Levy has his faults no doubt and addressing the defense in a large way is probably the most glaring one but this is probably the best Spurs squad I've seen in several years and it's made no difference. Coach doesn't rotate, doesn't use his bench options well, doesn't change formations to utilize different players..
 

HedgieSpur

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I’d forgotten about the Poch chants until I was reminded of them in this thread. I was in South as usual last night and I did feel it was very cringe.

There are lots of ways to make your point about Conte, but the Poch chanting just was just another example of how some fans (it was a very small minority) nowadays have a cultish devotion to a particular manager/formation/player and that appears to be more important to them than supporting the club.

I didn’t particularly like AVB or Sherwood, but chant for another manager during a game? Nah…. Not for me Geoff
 

bat-chain

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If you're going to be really cold and unemotional about it 1 game a week is Conte's ideal situation, might as well let him have them, a new manager and all that fuss offers no certainty of better results.

Sort things at the end of the season.
 

DenverSpur

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Everyone still remembers Poch’s constant flirting with Man U/Real Madrid and saying in a press conference before our biggest game in recent times that he might leave right? You also remember his signing and how awful we were at the end of his time here? We hit a golden patch with him in the middle but it was bloody painful in the end. Maybe we should look at some other options as well?
You also remember him saying that the domestic cups and the Europa League were not important competitions. No winning manager would ever say anything like that in public, regardless of what he thinks in private. A winning coach doesn’t give his players an excuse not to give a 100% in any game because if he does they’ll soon decide there’s other games not worth giving a 100%. We won’t win anything with Poch.
 

worcestersauce

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If you're going to be really cold and unemotional about it 1 game a week is Conte's ideal situation, might as well let him have them, a new manager and all that fuss offers no certainty of better results.

Sort things at the end of the season.
If, and it is a big if, you've already sorted the new manager and Conte isn't invested in the club is it really worth waiting until the end of the season? Why when him staying offers no certainty either?
 

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