Match Threads Everton Vs Spurs

[Jamturk]

I saw no lack of effort last night.

I saw a system failure instigated by a lack of technical ability, confidence and cohesion while being pressed.

 

[TOLBINY]

I saw no lack of effort last night.

I saw a system failure instigated by a lack of technical ability, confidence and cohesion while being pressed.

Excellent assessment, I would add footballing intelligence to your list.

 

[A Bit Much]

It's really really hard to care anymore.

It's obvious the majority of the team aren't arsed, bringing on Lucas Moura and Sanchez as our only subs doesn't help either

I proper can't motivate myself to be massively bothered anymore. We all know this season has gone down the pan, and we won't be getting top four, so there is less tension in what happens.

Generally speaking, I'm fine with us struggling if there is a process ongoing, and we are building to better days. At the minute we're just muddling along with a caretaker who is definitely not here next season, nor is his tactics.

I'd only be more arsed if we started playing younger players and experimented more with our tactical approach.

 

[Bobbins]

I saw no lack of effort last night.

I saw a system failure instigated by a lack of technical ability, confidence and cohesion while being pressed.

Did you watch Son?

 

[Dannyspur]

You can't really tell if it's any good, because the players don't seem to bother following it. We've had a system coach for a 18 months with a core of players who can't be arsed to play a system. :s

But I thought everyone was saying it was Conte’s system that was wrong? If the players are playing how they want, then displays like last night show clearly that they don’t give a toss.

 

[felmani26]

I'll be honest, i'm still annoyed.

That period of the match post penalty is up there as one of the very worst i've witnessed as a Spurs fan.

 

[Bobbins]

What do you think it is? Not asking you as an ITK. Just think there's something rotten in the heart of Denmark and interested in your view.

Personally I think we have a real problem with the culture at the club. It doesn't seem to be a high performance culture - quite the opposite.

We've had a lot of new players since Poch left but the culture has got worse and worse.

We have a culture of acceptance of failure and that comes from the very top down.

 

[Mate]

On the bright side, we're unbeaten in our last 3

 

[14/04/91]

It was almost comical to watch the square, slow passes across the back 3, inviting pressure, losing possession in dangerous areas. It was happening every time we had the ball with Lloris or the defence. Every single time.
Now if I were the manager I'd have seen it twice and been screaming at them to cut it out. Then I'd have made subs.

It's almost like they (Dier and Romero in particular) think they can just do what they want. Putting team-mates under pressure with ridiculous, obvious passes to someone facing their own goal!! Surely they're not being coached to play this way?! I lost count of how many times we gave the ball away; any side with half an ounce of quality would've punished us.

I'm sick of it. The second half last night was the final straw; I'm fed up of Dier strolling around acting like Franco Baresi when someone needs to tell him he's Frank Spencer.

De Zerbi will be licking his lips watching that. He'll know exactly what to do Saturday - press high because these clowns think they're good enough to play round it but they can't. And when the ball does go long, Son & Kulusevski and both wing-backs will let you have it back really soon.
Saturday could be the nadir. I really fear a heavy loss and the place will explode.

Mourinho, Santo, Conte, Stellini. The Tottenham way eh Levy?? You're a disgrace and you should move aside and take most of these overpaid, shoulder shrugging, pampered wankers with you.

 

[Mr Pink]

I'll be honest, i'm still annoyed.

That period of the match post penalty is up there as one of the very worst i've witnessed as a Spurs fan.

It was the mostly cowardly effort I've ever seen after the pen...

 

[chas vs dave]

It felt like only one team had something to play for. I was hoping that conte being gone would mean a step away from that 5 4 1 formation. I was wrong.

 

[Romulus]

always feels worse in the morning.

 

[TheChosenOne]

I'll be honest, i'm still annoyed.

That period of the match post penalty is up there as one of the very worst i've witnessed as a Spurs fan.

I was traumatised by that debacle. I went to bed and read a novel for a half hour to try and erase the horror of it all.
Got to sleep but woke up at 2pm all agitated and couldn’t get back to sleep because of the constant re-runs of all the shit show cameos that occurred.
All the lowlights on an incessant loop of doom.
Finally crashed out about 6 and got up at 8, wrecked, sad and angry.

 

[teok]

We need to play a really basic formation with tweaks to mask our weaknesses.

We seem to be doing the exact opposite, so nobody knows who or where to pass and there are no options. Our players who are worst with the ball seem to have it constantly.

It's almost another level of frustration to watch.

 

[Smokinhotspur]

I think last night was a great example of what conte was referring to in his press conference. The fundamentals of any team is work rate and desire. I just don’t think this core group can consistently demonstrate they have it, which is a massive concern. I think a lot of fans hope this is solved by tactics/formation/style of play but I fear unless we cut even deeper with this squad history tells us they can roll their sleeves up for a year or two then revert to type, because actually working hard everyday in any walk of life isn’t for everyone. If people want to know why it’s gone so bad on the pitch this season Vs last I’d look very closely at the players as despite his personal issues I very much doubt conte dropped his standards or intensity. Rigid tactics absolutely, but the same system and approach had us as one of the form teams heading into this season.

Spot on. This issue is compunded by the so called 'leaders' in the squad being quite weak characters. Look at Lloris - former France captain and WC winner, Son - South Korea Captian, I'd even throw Harry Kane into the mix as well as England Captain. These guys are no doubt very good players but as characters and leaders they are soft as shit. Until we get a core group of tough characters in there that won't accept the poor standards that have become an ingrained personality in this squad we are going nowhere....

 

[russyj]

If, hypothetically, for some bizarre reason, Levy was to come out and say Tottenham Hotspur football club is no more. Of course I'd be devastated and heartbroken, but another part of me would be relieved. What a damning indictment of the mess we find ourselves in.

 

[MightyModric]

Hahaha i forgot about the comedy moments of us trying to play out from the back with Eric Dier and Hugo Lloris.

Shambles

 

[14/04/91]

Hahaha i forgot about the comedy moments of us trying to play out from the back with Eric Dier and Hugo Lloris.

Shambles

Don’t worry you’ve only got a few days to wait & you’ll watch it all over again. Fucking insanity.

 

[the yid]

Nobody is defending Conte from any responsibility. Not one person. I think pretty much every Spurs fan acknowledges that what is happening is a collective issue and you are only interpreting it that way because you think it's the main problem. If any supporter can't see that our problems right now are literally from top to bottom then they need to have a serious rethink about what they are watching.

In no particular order our issues this season are and have been the chairman, the board, the DOF, The manager/coaching team, the players, and a section of the fanbase. At no time have I absolved Conte from any responsibility, but what I have done is chosen to focus my attention on the guy who is ultimately responsible for it all. So it looks like I am only blaming Levy. I'm not. What I witnessed last not wasn't his doing that was ultimately on Stelinni and Mason for their tactics, and for me more so on the players for not putting the required effort in.

We need a DOF that's ruthless in getting rid of this squad and very smart and shrewd rebuilding it.

We need a chairman that tells the DOF how much we have for transfers and just lets him get on with it. He needs sign players to the managers needs and philosophy.

We need a manager with a clear plan on how he wants to play and how the club should play.

We need players that aren't the load of shit we have now.


Problem is I don't trust Levy to make a single good decision, he won't employ a DOF, he may get lucky with the manager and we've seen over and over he doesn't do what's necessary with this squad.

 

[Phil-spur99]

We need a DOF that's ruthless in getting rid of this squad and very smart and shrewd rebuilding it.

We need a chairman that tells the DOF how much we have for transfers and just lets him get on with it. He needs sign players to the managers needs and philosophy.

We need a manager with a clear plan on how he wants to play and how the club should play.

We need players that aren't the load of shit we have now.


Problem is I don't trust Levy to make a single good decision, he won't employ a DOF, he may get lucky with the manager and we've seen over and over he doesn't do what's necessary with this squad.

From what I take from the ITK, one of the issues with getting rid of the deadwood (and there is tonnes of it when you look at the players out on loan too), is that Levy has an over inflated opinion of their value and has refused to take the hit necessary to get rid of them, certainly until recently (Dele and Doherty).