Everton Vs Tottenham: Match Thread

[Pete Spur]

And Zokora, I repeat, Didier Zokora, is the man you'd go for there?

Wow.

IN A FOOKN HEARTBEAT MANE

20 MIL BID MANE

IM A FUCKN DOCTOR MANE

now pass me my fuckn lighter....

 

[Pete Spur]

I was clearly taking the piss with Zokora you twats lol

 

[SpurSince57]

I was clearly taking the piss with Zokora you twats lol

Which was why I gave you a 'Funny' rating, so stop complaining or I'll take it away, and then where will you be, eh?

 

[Pete Spur]

Hindsight an all that....

Sig hit bar when he came on, if that goes in it's game over and we wouldn't be moaning, if he had put on Livermore and had we lost the game he would be getting criticised from all angles again so for me it was a good change.

There was nothing wrong with the subs I thought, people always say the manager should have done this and that but they're not so sure how the game would have turned out, very easy to say you would have done something to the manager after a loss isn't it.

Still as I alluded to before, our lack of characters is killing us at the moment, we have no real leadership out there and it's costing us big time.

real nice technique how he opened up and hit that, I thought it was in

that goes in and AVBs subs are being hailed as inspirational

 

[Pete Spur]

Which was why I gave you a 'Funny' rating, so stop complaining or I'll take it away, and then where will you be, eh?

prolly still sitting in my chair...

 

[Graysonti]

This team last season we had King, Kaboul, Modric, Parker, Modric and Rafa real blend of characters, warriors, players that know how to see games through now they are all missing it's no-councidence that we're letting in late goals for fun this season when we're under the cosh.

The mentality is lacking and we are really paying for it.

Right, ok, agree........but does coaching and tactics not come into play ??

I think you no where I'm going.

 

[Pete Spur]

Right, ok, agree........but does coaching and tactics not come into play ??

I think you no where I'm going.

yeah they're the reason a team going through so many changes are sitting tied for 4th

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

The difference between this year and last is that no one is demanding the ball. Up to March last year, we had players all over the pitch wanting the ball. Our movement this year is inferior to last year as well. The other thing that is really pissing me off is everytime we get a throw in we give it back to the opponents, as no one is prepared to show.

 

[Sweetsman]

Hindsight an all that....

Sig hit bar when he came on, if that goes in it's game over and we wouldn't be moaning, if he had put on Livermore and had we lost the game he would be getting criticised from all angles again so for me it was a good change.

There was nothing wrong with the subs I thought, people always say the manager should have done this and that but they're not so sure how the game would have turned out, very easy to say you would have done something to the manager after a loss isn't it.

Still as I alluded to before, our lack of characters is killing us at the moment, we have no real leadership out there and it's costing us big time.

Sorry, meant to agree.

 

[elDiablo]

The most frustrating thing is that we were defending really well, absorbing their attack and looking to counter. Thought we had it in the bag, cos despite lumping up the field to Jelavic and Fellaini, we were coping well. Then Caulker had a brain fart, followed by Gallas, and we have the usual egg on our face!!

 

[SpurSince57]

Hindsight an all that....

Sig hit bar when he came on, if that goes in it's game over and we wouldn't be moaning, if he had put on Livermore and had we lost the game he would be getting criticised from all angles again so for me it was a good change.

There was nothing wrong with the subs I thought, people always say the manager should have done this and that but they're not so sure how the game would have turned out, very easy to say you would have done something to the manager after a loss isn't it.

Still as I alluded to before, our lack of characters is killing us at the moment, we have no real leadership out there and it's costing us big time.

No, I thought it a bit odd at the time, certainly Hudd for Lennon (why not Sig on as a straight swap for Lennon as Steve suggested?), and I'd have made the same comment had we held on. It was Falque on for Defoe that late in the game rather than Livermore that seemed strange, not Sig—and I don't normally comment on substitutions, either, on the principle that the manager knows infinitely more than I do.

I agree about the lack of leadership, although those players didn't help when we went through our bad patch last season, but there are other issues, such as those MPickard brought up.

 

[Shadydan]

Right, ok, agree........but does coaching and tactics not come into play ??

I think you no where I'm going.

Not disputing that but you can't coach players out of making basic errors. These things come down to experience.

The management can sit there and coach players all week and point out tactics but when there's a clear lack of leadership on the pitch which leads to players making rash judgements how do you coach that?

 

[Mr Pink]

really looking forward to Parker coming back...

 

[JimmyG2]

75 minutes I'm thinking OK, 0-0, I'll take that. They've edged it and neither Defoe of Ade have done anything much.
76 minuters I'm thinking. Thank you lord if you insist
Siggy comes on, Dembele's struggling. He hits the bar. Good substitution.
Falque comes on for Defoe. good positive substitution.
Hudd comes on does nothing wrong for the goals. Logical sub.
90 minutes. Everton score, mix up in goalmouth. Caulker ignores the keeper again. Oh well good point.
90+ Everton nick it. What I thought then is unprintable and I apologise to Mrs Jimmy G2.

But whatever you thought on 76 minutes about the team, AVB, substitutions, late goals, Lloris, sdhould still apply.
A couple of errors does not wipe out all that has gone before.

 

[Shadydan]

No, I thought it a bit odd at the time, certainly Hudd for Lennon (why not Sig on as a straight swap for Lennon as Steve suggested?), and I'd have made the same comment had we held on. It was Falque on for Defoe that late in the game rather than Livermore that seemed strange, not Sig—and I don't normally comment on substitutions, either, on the principle that the manager knows infinitely more than I do.

I agree about the lack of leadership, although those players didn't help when we went through our bad patch last season, but there are other issues, such as those MPickard brought up.

Well I'm not meaning to get into the ins and outs of who should have and who shouldn't have come on really, all I'm saying is that it was a positive change which almost came off and won us the game.

Such is the fine margins of football..

 

[Wirral Spurs]

Just back from the game, can't say I enjoyed witnessing an Evertonian grown man run 20yds to gesticulate and shout abuse at all of us right in my 10 year old's face! What is the point of Stewards and where are the Police during a game???

Oh and I couldn't believe how unlike a premier league central midfielder Huddlestone is. Crackers comment of "moves like Continental Drift" is spot on.

 

[Misfit]

yeah they're the reason a team going through so many changes are sitting tied for 4th

There's certainly soemthing to be said there.

I completely understand the doubts and fears some have. I share some of them myself. However, this season, when you look at the factors; the loss of the team's spine in the summer, the raft of injuries to several starters since the beginning of the season, the half dozen news players and entirely new coaching staff still bedding in, this season had all the ready-made excuses and reasons as a real fucking disaster. I mean, we could be staring at the bottom 4 and not the top 4 if those factors added together with the wrong attitude and approach by those at the club. We've seen it before and not all that long ago either.

However, we've lost 6, 4 of which were against sides we have no divine right to beat. Still, not the first time we've had shit runs of form. We'll just have to hope we are having ours in the first half of the season this time as opposed to our usual second half slump.

Where I am currently is that I'm not even close to judging AVB and this team yet. AVB not least because he hasn't been, for whatever reasons, been backed by the chairman. He just hasn't and so it's disingenuous to pretend this is as good as he can be.

Where we this tepid and at times utterly shit and disjointed with a CM playmaker he's comfortable with running his system then alarm bells would be well and truly ringing. We're not though.

Just about every shit hand he could be dealt with, he has been dealt with. That's life etc. It's not fair. Still, not a bad game he's playing with it.

 

[eViL]

That's not what happened today though - we actually looked inspired to keep having a go following the goal, and we were the width of the crossbar away from having a second via Siggy.

We had one more shot. Everton must have been quaking in their boots..

 

[Pete Spur]

The difference between this year and last is that no one is demanding the ball. Up to March last year, we had players all over the pitch wanting the ball. Our movement this year is inferior to last year as well. The other thing that is really pissing me off is everytime we get a throw in we give it back to the opponents, as no one is prepared to show.

You can't instantly replace players like King VDV and Modric players who basically dictate EVERYTHING you do on the pitch. We had the heartbeat of our team ripped out in the summer, some people don't seem to fully understand the magnitude of that loss. It's commendable we are in the position we are currently in. That's not even taking the switching of managers or injuries into account. We aren't just trying to find a new style of play our whole identity changed.

 

[Mr Pink]

As ever the manner of the defeat will cloud judgement....we deserved the draw and were very unlucky not to get it in the end.

We all knew this would be a very difficult place to go and Everton raise their game even more against the better sides at home.

We have a real opportunity to rack up some serious points over the next 6 games, and I think we will.

After beating West Ham and Liverpool I would of been ecstatic with 4 points from Fulham and Everton away, hell I even thought two points would of been decent enough. We got three in the end, its not all doom and gloom FFS.

Yes it fucking hurt that today, but providing we bounce back next Sunday we have a very decent looking festive period ahead of us with big players returning.

Have some of that! (drinking really does work when trying to lift the mood)