Guardiola to take over at Man City

[etchedchaos]

Bravo was brought because he is good with his feet and good at coming out, Pep has admitted that he didnt know that the keepers here havent got any protection

It's not just that the keepers have no protection but that teams aren't passive and will press a keeper they think is a weak-link. If your keeper has problems with crosses teams will figure that out and pepper that keeper with crosses and if he has problems under pressure then teams will employ a high-press.

It was arrogance of Pep to come in and expect English sides to allows his backline and keeper to play out from the back.

 

[sebo_sek]

To me Guardiola is one of the most overrated managers in world football. Having only managed the best of the best throughout his entire career, he has now come into a club that is far from it. And suddenly his shortcomings are being exposed. He never climbed the ladder - he was airlifted there. The time has come to stand on his own two feet, and he's wobbling.
As detestable as Jose is, he does adapt. Pep doesn't.

 

[DJS]

Reckon he's come in and tried to stamp his philosophy on the club too quick, should have never have dropped of Joe Hart, no-one will ever tell me that Hart wouldn't have been able to learn how to play out from the back, the reason he dropped him is to make an example out of him which is something that he's done at Barcelona and Bayern. Playing out from the back with the likes of Otamendi who is average and John Stones who needs a proper defensive coach and a keeper who doesn't speak any English who really isn't that good anyway is a recipe for disaster and doesn't instill confidence, you need to be confident and assured to play out from the back but it just makes the whole team nervous.

Spent a load of money but didn't really do much to bring the average age of the squad down, still has Toure who is past it as is Zabaleta, Kolarov, Clichy and Sagna are average, Kompany is injury prone Fernando is average as is Delph, he should have been tightening up that defence because that's been their Achilles heel for a couple of seasons, what's happened is that Man City have been winging it over the last few years and they've brought poorly but still managed to beat the majority of teams in the league because teams weren't tactically or technically up to scratch but now there are better managers and players in this league and their process of buying players without and planning or philosophy is coming back to haunt them.

Also he's gonna find it hard here because the media will continue to wind him up unless he changes his demeanor towards them, you can clearly see that he holds them in utter disdain but I think that if you're going to be a modern day manager then you need to be media savvy as well, it's not just about tactics and managing players, its about representing the club and managing the press' expectations, look how Klopp and Poch manage the media compared to Guardiola, both have different ways about them but equally respected in their own right whilst Guardiola is looking more and more like AVB out there.

Was just gonna post in here how silly it was disposing of Hart so quickly.

Should have given him this season and then if still not happy with him made change following summer, think Pep underestimated the bonus having some English grit back bone in the league can give you.

Bravo was pretty decent for Barcelona though so interesting how he's struggling over here, but that could be to do with language problems as mentioned and having a very shaken defense in front of him.

 

[ernie78]

Interesting stat on BBC - out of the last 22shots Bravo has faced 14 have resulted in goals

 

[Ribble]

I think that the most significant problem is that he's a tactical thinker first and foremost and not nearly as experienced at building a team as Man City need him to be right now. They should have let Pellegrini build a new squad instead and then brought in Pep to impose his ideas on it, even if it meant waiting another season to do so.

I feel like he probably looks at how many academy kids we've been able to bring through with envy, as Man City are really lacking in that department.

 

[adamsky]

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Bravo was brought because he is good with his feet and good at coming out, Pep has admitted that he didnt know that the keepers here havent got any protection

It's not as if he is being fouled constantly. He is just a poor shot stopper.

 

[Shadydan]

Was just gonna post in here how silly it was disposing of Hart so quickly.

Should have given him this season and then if still not happy with him made change following summer, think Pep underestimated the bonus having some English grit back bone in the league can give you.

Bravo was pretty decent for Barcelona though so interesting how he's struggling over here, but that could be to do with language problems as mentioned and having a very shaken defense in front of him.

He doesn't save anything and gets beaten far too easily for a top goalie, everything just seems to go through him.

 

[thebenjamin]

Is Fernandinho still suspended for our game? Literally praying he goes with Toure and Zabaleta in midfield against us. Will be absolute carnage in there against Dembele and Wanyama.

 

[Shadydan]

Is Fernandinho still suspended for our game? Literally praying he goes with Toure and Zabaleta in midfield against us. Will be absolute carnage in there against Dembele and Wanyama.

Yeah he's suspended.

 

[tiger666]

Is Fernandinho still suspended for our game? Literally praying he goes with Toure and Zabaleta in midfield against us. Will be absolute carnage in there against Dembele and Wanyama.

Yes he's banned for us and the Hammers game.

 

[Roynie]

He doesn't save anything and gets beaten far too easily for a top goalie, everything just seems to go through him.

Cue one blinder of a game on Saturday!

 

[DJS]

He doesn't save anything and gets beaten far too easily for a top goalie, everything just seems to go through him.

Odd he was so highly regarded at Barca, some players must be more suited to leagues more although for a goalkeeper saving shots is saving shots really.

Other factors come into play e.g. such as language barrier, perhaps his personal situation / if he feels settled in England but just odd he's gone from being a top goalkeeper at Barca to being such turd at City.

They so should have stuck with Harte, thought Pep was crazy re: this decision when he started season with Cabellero, Harte was probably also a popular member of squad so not good to treat him so shoddily.

 

[Shadydan]

Odd he was so highly regarded at Barca, some players must be more suited to leagues more although for a goalkeeper saving shots is saving shots really.

Other factors come into play e.g. such as language barrier, perhaps his personal situation / if he feels settled in England but just odd he's gone from being a top goalkeeper at Barca to being such turd at City.

They so should have stuck with Harte, thought Pep was crazy re: this decision when he started season with Cabellero, Harte was probably also a popular member of squad so not good to treat him so shoddily.

He was but I don't know how so m any shots just seem to go through him, seems to lack the basics for a keeper and his angles are all wrong. I don't know whether his confidence is shot but there's been too many goals he's conceded that have been questionable to say the least.

Agree on Hart, Hart is a big character at City but Pep doesn't like outspoken and vocal characters.

 

[Japhet]

Can't say I like the post match questioning Guardiola is being subjected to at the moment. Along the lines of 'So Pep, on a scale of 1 to 10, how crap were your team today and how shit a Manager are you in the cold light of day?'

Having said that, I think he's had a super privileged career as a Manager and is finding the EPL very tough going, especially at a club like City who are very impatient and expect financial extravagance to solve everything.

 

[DJS]

Can't say I like the post match questioning Guardiola is being subjected to at the moment. Along the lines of 'So Pep, on a scale of 1 to 10, how crap were your team today and how shit a Manager are you in the cold light of day?'

Having said that, I think he's had a super privileged career as a Manager and is finding the EPL very tough going, especially at a club like City who are very impatient and expect financial extravagance to solve everything.

He does like to tinker with players and their positions to try and improve them (which he did to good effect at Barca and Bayern).

Some teams do take a bit longer to impose philosophy on though - Barca were already pretty successful as were Bayern and problem as City is a lot of players were attracted due to the size of the pay packet they were offered.

It will be interesting to see if he is given this season and next what he does with the team and if he can transfer his methods to the Premier League.

 

[Shadydan]

Can't say I like the post match questioning Guardiola is being subjected to at the moment. Along the lines of 'So Pep, on a scale of 1 to 10, how crap were your team today and how shit a Manager are you in the cold light of day?'

Having said that, I think he's had a super privileged career as a Manager and is finding the EPL very tough going, especially at a club like City who are very impatient and expect financial extravagance to solve everything.

That line of questioning wouldn't be so harsh if he was media savvy and didn't show utter disdain towards them, we've seen it all before with AVB, they picked on him because he was very dismissive of them and I think if you are a manager particularly modern day then you need to be media savvy as it will always buy you more time and puts less pressure on yourself.

 

[mattie g]

That line of questioning wouldn't be so harsh if he was media savvy and didn't show utter disdain towards them, we've seen it all before with AVB, they picked on him because he was very dismissive of them and I think if you are a manager particularly modern day then you need to be media savvy as it will always buy you more time and puts less pressure on yourself.

Bang on. I was just about to say the same thing.

He's started getting some "tough" questions in the last couple weeks, but his true colors are now beginning to shine through. As much as the English press can be utter pricks, I fully understand that they may now be out for blood given the way he's treating them. All he's had to do was give them some soundbites, admit he was upset with how the team was playing, and thank them for their questions. Instead, he's being combative and trying to prove that he knows more than any of the press do. And while that may be true that he knows more (it's almost certainly the case), he also needs to be able to "play the game" with the media, but unfortunately for him it appears he just can't bring himself to do it.

 

[spursfan77]

I've just watched the motd highlights and they were quite unlucky in the first half. On another day they could have been a goal or two up.

But, once they went 1 and then 2 down their heads dropped and they gave up. I think if we manage to get the first goal at the weekend then we've a great chance to take all 3 points.

 

[Dharmabum]

I've just watched the motd highlights and they were quite unlucky in the first half. On another day they could have been a goal or two up.

But, once they went 1 and then 2 down their heads dropped and they gave up. I think if we manage to get the first goal at the weekend then we've a great chance to take all 3 points.

ManC is a bit like the reverse of Leicester of last season: often Leicester had only 25-30-35 % of possession - even against teams much lovwer in the league - and yet kept on winning. ManC often have 60-70+ % of possession but keep on losing (often due to a weak defense - inlcuding the goalie - that puts them on the back foot)

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/12087/10731321/balague-players-the-issue-for-pep

This is a very good interview with Guillem about Pep and why he is struggling this season.

He mentions a lot of what I have seen on this thread, pure disdain without proper analysis.

Worth the read.