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But then there is also this.
There was more end product in my morning shit than that video lol.
But then there is also this.
toby played for Ath Madrid and Ajax, not fecking blackburnToby only had one season in the PL before we signed him.
An relatively average period at Atletico. In many peoples' eyes, he wasn't completely proven at the highest level. Turned out he was the best CB in the league.toby played for Ath Madrid and Ajax, not fecking blackburn
he may not have been fully proven, but he had a lot more to back it up prior to his main season.An relatively average period at Atletico. In many peoples' eyes, he wasn't completely proven at the highest level. Turned out he was the best CB in the league.
He's also proven in the prem which we know Poch likes. I think he'll surprise people just as Toby and Wanyama did tbh.
We need someone who has pace and goals from out wide and can be a better option for Harry.
Good comparison. Dempsey scored some vital goals for us but he was pretty awful most of the time. Would fuck up even simple passes.IMO (and feel very free to disagree), signing King would have loud echoes of our purchase of Clint Dempsey. Strong "thanks, but no thanks" from me.
I see your point but only one season in the Prem doesnt make you proven, if he did it again yes that adds more credence.
Outside of that king is not worth a 30M risk imo
He is not that technical and he does not have the best football brain imo. Yeah sure he has pace but he rarely use it to his advantage - something that is very frustrating to watch. He has decent movement in the box though - something that would imply that his footballing brain maybe can be developed to a greater level.
He works hard and should fit the way we play but i can't see him make much of a difference. Im almost certain that this will be a mistake. Hope i'm wrong if we end up buying him.
If he does it again, he'll be out of our reach. We've got to take a punt. Blade would have been a punt as well. The good news is that we have the best young coach in the world and if anyone can make King a player good enough for us, so can Poch.
shots per goal is a hugely fluctuating stat and not really worth putting much stock into.
I wrote a big thing on King and stats recently if you want a slightly more advanced version:
http://statsbomb.com/2017/07/joshua-king-and-the-hot-foot/
http://statsbomb.com/2017/07/joshua-king-and-the-hot-foot/
won't be everyone's cup of tea but one thing is next to certain, his goal rate will slow up
So people shouldn't be wanking over Keita but hating on King?Just to bounce off this, for expected goals I had King with 14 Non penalty goals from 8.6 expected.
I get Keita at 14 NPGs from an expectation of 6.8!
That's nuts. For defined big chances (which are generally converted at a rate of about 40%) Keita was 8/9 last year after going 2/15 in the two previous seasons. Almost certainly he will regress this coming season, as will KIng.
All this tells me if links with these two are true, is that it is unlikely that people linked with the club are looking at the process, which would be disappointing if true
So people shouldn't be wanking over Keita but hating on King?
Should be cautious about both?
Scoring rates are basically how many of your shots on target end in goals. His rates are unsustainable. As in no player - even the Messi's and Ronaldo's of the world have that many go in that frequently. He is going to regress.Sorry what do you mean by unsustainable scoring rates?
I understand if people aren't happy with this link but then you also, and I'm not sure on your opinion on it, have to have been against the keita signing aswell based the fact he only had one prolific season aswell and scored half his goals in 5 games
If you were against the keita signing or at least not excited by it then your view is valid, otherwise I don't see the logic in being annoyed at king being our backup option
about the club not roseAt least Rose will approve of this signing as he won't need to google him
Alli played for MK, Rose Leeds, Walker Sheffield utd, wanyama Soton, dembele Fulham, Kane was on loan at Millwall. Past clubs mean nothing. In fact if a player does well with average team mates it should be a good sign. King might not be the player for us but previous clubs mean nothing.toby played for Ath Madrid and Ajax, not fecking blackburn
Ffs mate, way to take a comment out of context, I agree players from anywhere can succeed, but the discussion was about being proven at the highest level not whether good enough...read the convo first before jumping on it.Alli played for MK, Rose Leeds, Walker Sheffield utd, wanyama Soton, dembele Fulham, Kane was on loan at Millwall. Past clubs mean nothing. In fact if a player does well with average team mates it should be a good sign. King might not be the player for us but previous clubs mean nothing.