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Klaas Jan Huntelaar - Signed for Milan

Matt C

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Tiredness or adjusting to the pace of the premiership; bothj are valid reasons for pav not to impress in the prem. The russian premiership is more like his experiences in the
Carling cup where he showed he can score. The russiand belted holland off the park in the euros showing that currently the standard it's very best players can attain when properly coached is upthere with the best.
Arshavin and pav were the fulcrum of that success and I believe that pave will show why he is so rated throughout the world game.
it was probably easier for arshavin to adjust to theague as the second striker whereas the the extra physical demands on pav were probably a real shock to pav and, if he's any sense, he'll have been in the gym this summer getting bthatvsorted.
The lad has tallent. Give him this season to show it.

He was physical when he needed to be, yeah not Palacios level of physical technique but I remember Pav elbowing Collocini in the face in the Newcastle game to show he will not take any crap off him

tbh i am more in favour of getting rid of Keane than I am Pav, I would not start Pav but he would be useful to have on the bench to back up KJH/Crouch/Defoe and he could play in the Carling games but there has been way more speculation linking Pav with a move away as opposed to Keane so I have been commenting on that basis
 

diegooners

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I'm pretty sure HR said he would be in for Huntelaar once Bent had been sold.. didn't he?


He surely did. But Redknapp is dodgy, and there was ITK to suggest that was merely a favour to Real to drum up interest with possible incentive to Spurs. I can't see us signing Huntelaar until atleast one more striker goes, hopefully Keane as well.
 

agrdavidsfan

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I really like pav and dont rate hunt so tbh if huntelaar comes he has everything to prove to me and like i said before if he proves me wrong SC will get a donation off me :)
 

Riandor

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Actually we have bought first and then sold...

We got Crouch in relatively quickly, but we must have been sure that the Bent deal would have gone through. So 1 in and 1 out... (yes money wise Zokora covered it, but he was a Midfielder)

IF we are in for KJH and even bigger IF KJH is interested in joining, then that to me signals another striker going out (either Keane or Pav) as we will not want 5 strikers on our books.

So we have definitely learned from last season where we sold all our strikers first and then panicked.

...and I agree with BPR U16, we can want KJH all we like, but we are not going to be his first choice if a CL club comes calling and understandably so.

It's a case of wait and see... whilst we're waiting we can go and sign some other players like a decent CB!

R.
 

benwoolley

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i don't get all of this tiredness crap when it comes to pav. It's just an excuse used by people that can't accept that he's not as good as they think he is. Good finisher but he needs too many chances to score in my opinion. Tiredness doesn't explain his lack of technique amongst other things. He's simply a finisher, nothing more. The very same thing Bent was and we shipped him out. Players of that price need to have more than goals. Pav will never bring others into the game and i think that's becoming increasingly vital in the premier league these days. What we've got is a Lineker (without being quite as deadly) but football has changed a lot since then. Poachers a few and far between these days because every man on the pitch needs to offer more than just the odd tap in here and there.
 

Kendall

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i don't get all of this tiredness crap when it comes to pav. It's just an excuse used by people that can't accept that he's not as good as they think he is. Good finisher but he needs too many chances to score in my opinion. Tiredness doesn't explain his lack of technique amongst other things. He's simply a finisher, nothing more. The very same thing Bent was and we shipped him out. Players of that price need to have more than goals. Pav will never bring others into the game and i think that's becoming increasingly vital in the premier league these days. What we've got is a Lineker (without being quite as deadly) but football has changed a lot since then. Poachers a few and far between these days because every man on the pitch needs to offer more than just the odd tap in here and there.

What's your view on Huntelaar then?
 

kendal

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Why do we need huntelaar...i dont see so much of a difference between Pav and hunt...not so much that warrants spending £15m+ on a new striker...there are far more important areas of the team which needs attention (for example CB, LB, CM, LW)
 

benwoolley

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Kendall,

What are my views on Huntelaar? Well, i'm kind of unsure. It seems to me that the only reason people are getting excited is because of the club he'd be joining from rather than what he'd bring to the side. I personally have no idea what kind of player he is, a poacher or a sheringham (as in bringing others into the game). The thing is i don't think there are many spurs fans that know much about him, and that is where the attraction is. It's the mystery of signing someone you know is a biggish name from a huge club without knowing a great deal about him, a bit like the Dos Santos deal... and look where that ended up. I'm probably one of the mugs that will believe that Huntelaar would be great but no one really knows. The fact that Arsenal have been sniffing around is relatively promising as as much as it pains me to say it, Wenger is rarely wrong.

I take it you are pro - pav then?
 

danielneeds

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I am not convinced by this tiredness thing though really

Tiredness never stopped him scoring prolifically in the Carling Cup for instance so that makes me think he is simply not a upper levels of the Premiership level player if he scores for fun against weak teams despite the tiredness

But he has scored against the best defenders in the country, Ferdinand, Lescott (for Russia V England), Vidic (superb run on his blindside in FA Cup), he has the talent. Its getting his head around the week in week out demands that requires more from him.
 

Matt C

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But he has scored against the best defenders in the country, Ferdinand, Lescott (for Russia V England), Vidic (superb run on his blindside in FA Cup), he has the talent. Its getting his head around the week in week out demands that requires more from him.

I would be ok with keeping Pav as a squad player/back up and if its a choice of selling Pav or Keane I would sell Keane in a heartbeat above Pav but I think Pav if he stays should be on the bench for 20 min cameos if we are in trouble and run outs in the cups and have KJH/Defoe/Crouch as our first choice strikers
 

Kendall

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Kendall,

What are my views on Huntelaar? Well, i'm kind of unsure. It seems to me that the only reason people are getting excited is because of the club he'd be joining from rather than what he'd bring to the side. I personally have no idea what kind of player he is, a poacher or a sheringham (as in bringing others into the game). The thing is i don't think there are many spurs fans that know much about him, and that is where the attraction is. It's the mystery of signing someone you know is a biggish name from a huge club without knowing a great deal about him, a bit like the Dos Santos deal... and look where that ended up. I'm probably one of the mugs that will believe that Huntelaar would be great but no one really knows. The fact that Arsenal have been sniffing around is relatively promising as as much as it pains me to say it, Wenger is rarely wrong.

I take it you are pro - pav then?

No, I was just interested as you're post insinuated you are not a fan of poachers and Huntelaar is merely a poacher, so I was wondering what your view was. I too think the fatigue thing was overstated last season and Pav actually looks very poor in pre season as well, following a rest.
 

steve

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But he has scored against the best defenders in the country, Ferdinand, Lescott (for Russia V England), Vidic (superb run on his blindside in FA Cup), he has the talent. Its getting his head around the week in week out demands that requires more from him.

Agree with this - I think it's his mentality that needs sorting out. He needs to toughen up and he needs to do it quick, become a bit more ruthless mentally and then we'll see the best of him. Berbatov was the same initially but made the adjustment pretty quickly. Pav needs to do the same - I'm not convinced he will though - but he does have football ability which he has showed in glimpses...

Back to ITK I think a lot is riding on the French lad Sissoko and a CB coming in...
 

Krafty

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I dont see Huntelaar, or any other striker joining us just because Bent has left. For me, Crouch comes in for Bent. Maybe, maybe if Pav or Keane leaves then we may be interested in another (more so if Keane goes) but Crouch would not have signed without knowing he was going to get some games, JD is obviously first choice. Keane wont be happy to sit on the bench once nevermind all the time, so god only knows how unhappy another international striker would think.
 

Stars

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With regards to Huntelaar, IMO he would more likely be a replacement for Keane. If we sell Pav to bring in Huntelaar, then we only have Crouch as a hold-up player. Negredo/RVN would be better replacements for Pav.
I don't think Pav can hold the ball up any better than Defoe can, to be honest.

Personally, I'd lose Pav and take Negredo, then giving us four different strikers who each give us different options - I'm not convinced, for example, that Defoe and Huntelaar would play well with each other. But I suspect that Levy, as he's shown before, wants to appease the fans with who he believes they want and Huntelaar is more of a "name" than Negredo is.
 

worcestersauce

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But surely if a player like Huntelaar is as good as he is supposed to be and if it's true that he thinks he's good enough for any of the top clubs then he must be confident that he is good enough to be first choice in our team.
If he won't come to us because he might not get first team football then perhaps he ought to consider Hull City.
 

Archibald-CPH

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Kendall,

What are my views on Huntelaar? Well, i'm kind of unsure. It seems to me that the only reason people are getting excited is because of the club he'd be joining from rather than what he'd bring to the side. I personally have no idea what kind of player he is, a poacher or a sheringham (as in bringing others into the game). The thing is i don't think there are many spurs fans that know much about him, and that is where the attraction is. It's the mystery of signing someone you know is a biggish name from a huge club without knowing a great deal about him, a bit like the Dos Santos deal... and look where that ended up. I'm probably one of the mugs that will believe that Huntelaar would be great but no one really knows. The fact that Arsenal have been sniffing around is relatively promising as as much as it pains me to say it, Wenger is rarely wrong.

I take it you are pro - pav then?


Agree.... Think that Negrodo is the better buy... Proved himself in La Liga as a proven goalscorer for a "week" team... Links up the play better than the Hunter... Hunter has only proven himself in Holland....

But the best option is RvN if we can get him on the cheap
 

ryantegan

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The Tottenham does not give up and will return to the load to try to close the transfer of the forward one of the Real Madrid, Jan Klaas Huntelaar. The English assembly, that already did an offering by the Dutchman some weeks ago, would be willing to pay until 16 million euro to be done with its services. The change of position of the 'Spurs' attends to a well simple reason: the sale of its forward one Darren Bent. The English footballer is on the verge of closing his transfer to the Sunderland of Steve Bruce, what would grant to the Tottenham near 10 million euro by the operation. The Arsenal would be able to enter the struggle nevertheless, the assembly of the Islands would be able also to try the sale of the Russian one Pavlyuchenko, since great part of the money obtained by the sale of Bent would go destined to sponsor the recent incorporation of Peter Crouch. Huntelaar, that already rejected an offering of the Stuttgart German, would be able to receive also an offering of the Arsenal, that has noticed the Dutchman to supply the drop of Emmanuel Adebayor.

translated from Marca.com tonight

shit source i know but what the hell its out there
 
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