Norwich Vs Tottenham: Match Thread

[SEANSPURS1975]

Some things just get right under your skin. Like when your back-up right back who can't cross is taking corners...

 

[TheOneSpurs]

Some things just get right under your skin. Like when your back-up right back who can't cross is taking corners...

Well said ! ! he basically passed it to the first norwich player in line ! Useless player I've always said it

 

[Tott66]

Of course not top knotch but a better bet than anyone else we had out there.


Did'nt he play well against Norwich last time?

He didn't play we'll he was brilliant on the day but our managers since then don't seem to trust him.
Needed a proper run like lamela did but never got.
Would start him ahead of bentaleb every day of the week.

 

[Dannyspur]

It's only just dawned on me that we lost to Norwich.

Norwich.



Norwich.

And we drew with Hull and West Brom

 

[worcestersauce]

Playing with Paulihno is like playing with 10 men, he's just not interested in defending. Similar with Eriksen, perhaps that's why he's not playing both as we would be too weak

I don't think that had anything to do with their goal though so not really any bearing on today's game where we needed them going forward.

 

[nightgoat]

That is not the reality, its bollox. How were we bad against United, Stoke, second half against Southampton we could of scored five, Swansea and Newcastle.

Its just pure bull shit. Yet the Europa League raises its ugly head again and the same thing happens, we've lost most of the games we've played after them - no surprise at all, we looked tired and it was flat performance.

West Ham, started off like a bunch of headless chickens at 100mph, lost to two late goals. Southampton, yeah we could have had five, so could they. WBA reserves, we were shit and could/should have lost. Stoke we were good, but they were dreadful. Man Utd, we were decent but like Southampton could quite easily have lost as they pummeled us for large parts of the game. Arsenal we were clueless and shit, lined up as if we were playing Cardiff at home. Palace we should have been 3-0 down at half time. Swansea we were good, but not until we scored. They were much better for the first 35 minutes, another slow start under Sherwood. Man City, we were ripped apart and should have been dead and buried after half an hour. Could have got back into it, but who knows, ref fucked it up. Hull, poor. Wrong team selection and shape, they got through our defence at will, we were lucky to get a draw. Everton, we were second best for the whole game, some quick thinking and a great finish masked that. Newcastle, their fans think they'd have lost to a Conference team that night, they were so bad. Even then, they created some very good chances and Lloris had to bail us out on several occasions. Dnipro, largely meh, we'd probably have won had Eriksen's goal stood, or Soldado or Chadli not missed sitters. But again, they ripped us apart at will. Today, utterly woeful from start to finish.

So yeah, if you want to keep your head in the sand and believe that today was just the big, bad, nasty Europa League derailing our league form then fine, go ahead. Or, you could stop looking for an easy scapegoat to detract the blame from where it really should lie and realise that today's performance is nothing new since Sherwood took over, and is in fact indicative of how the team has played since then.

The only games under Sherwood where we've played well for more than an hour were against an awful Stoke team and an even worse Newcastle team. We were only going to be able to keep lucking results from shit performances for so long.

 

[THFC 1882]

what have happened to Tim Sherwood??

when he took over he started with 442, he also said that this was hes formation

but now we are back to AVB with one up front
we started today with Bentaleb,Capoue and Dembele

It seems like Sherwood was a bit affraid of Norwich
where is that Sherwood with this positive and offensive speaking??

 

[eViL]

We've only ever looked good this season playing 4-4-2.

I'm normally one to see the positives in most of our games but we were fucking awful today.

 

[FinnYid]

Soooooo...

So?

 

[Smokinhotspur]

How is it that we spunked over £100m in the summer and can't even point to ONE of the signings as a clear success at this stage of the season. I know some players take time to settle blah blah but would expect at least a couple to have hit the ground running. Of course the manager and players should take some flak especially against Norwich but I am not convinced that we bought the right players in the summer! I mean Soldado - forget the poor finishing which can be due to poor confidence levels, what really gets me is his lack of heart and workrate which are a must to be a success in the PL. Franco Baldini has plenty of explaining to do I think...

 

[thinktank]

How is it that we spunked over £100m in the summer and can't even point to ONE of the signings as a clear success at this stage of the season. I know some players take time to settle blah blah but would expect at least a couple to have hit the ground running. Of course the manager and players should take some flak especially against Norwich but I am not convinced that we bought the right players in the summer! I mean Soldado - forget the poor finishing which can be due to poor confidence levels, what really gets me is his lack of heart and workrate which are a must to be a success in the PL. Franco Baldini has plenty of explaining to do I think...

Tell me you're fucking joking. Please.

 

[Mr Pink]

If you think we have at any point since Sherwood took over been putting in quality performances, have a shape and pattern to our play, control games and basically look like a top 4 side then nothing else needs to be said.
We have had the ability to win games against sides who been as equally as disorganised as us due to two reasons 1. Adebayor having a purple patch which incidentally we know won't last and 2. We have a smattering of expensively assembled individuals who can positively,from time to time, effect a game - as a side we have not put any decent side to the sword since he took over as this where the structure and organisation come to the fore.
Yes today there may have been an element of tiredness but to suggest it's the main reason is just plain wrong and short sighted

I said performances have been mixed. Where did I say they've been real quality? We've done quite well in some and poor in others...but mainly we've played well in patches in some games and been poor in others. Of course Adebayor is a huge reason, but he still needs a platform to play off and some sort of service....he got very little today from a team that looked leggy and inept.

As for the Europa League it does have an affect, the extent of which is debatable but it most certainly does as other managers have repeatedly said.

Anyway we disagree, get over it and move on.

 

[StartingPrice]

It's only just dawned on me that we lost to Norwich.

Norwich.



Norwich.

Not getting at you, and not saying your attitude damned us today...but from top of this club to bottom, we have to stop thinking teams like Norwich should somehow be a walk-over - they shouldn't. They are fighting for their manager and their EPL survival. every game is a battle and should be treated as such.

You might not have damned us, but our players did...far too many of them looked like they were on cruise control and just expecting a win. Apart from Bentaleb, who may he a fantastic prospect and may well have slotted into the EPL pretty damned well, he may well have not even been our worst player today - but he sure as hell looks like he is starting to believe his own hype a bit. Far too often he tries to take players on when it isn't the sensible option, and especially not when it is in dangerous positions - it cost us a goal today, and let's not be mistaken about it, a draw would have been acceptable, even if hardly earned, but a loss puts any hope we have of top 4 into a tailspin.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Not getting at you, and not saying your attitude damned us today...but from top of this club to bottom, we have to stop thinking teams like Norwich should somehow be a walk-over - they shouldn't. They are fighting for their manager and their EPL survival. every game is a battle and should be treated as such.

You might not have damned us, but our players did...far too many of them looked like they were on cruise control and just expecting a win. Apart from Bentaleb, who may he a fantastic prospect and may well have slotted into the EPL pretty damned well, he may well have not even been our worst player today - but he sure as hell looks like he is starting to believe his own hype a bit. Far too often he tries to take players on when it isn't the sensible option, and especially not when it is in dangerous positions - it cost us a goal today, and let's not be mistaken about it, a draw would have been acceptable, even if hardly earned, but a loss puts any hope we have of top 4 into a tailspin.

I predicted us to draw the match but inside I thought we had enough to beat them.

No match is a walkover but for Christ sake look at our squad and it's beggars belief as to how we're not doing much better than we are.

 

[Kingstheman]

We are so shit, arseholes haven't been born that can crap us out. A legion of toilets has flushed, we do not move. The world's fly population had to invite the world's dung beetle population to dinner when they heard, 'it's Spurs tonight'. Archibald and Crooks is yet to write a poo chronicle funny enough to be on our level of rankness. We are the Pooh of A A Milne fame. We're crap, shit, turd, crud, shite, poo, excrement, faeces, bum loaf, brown stuff, stools. We are the oldest toad in the pond made flesh.

Oh, sod it, I'm off for a drink.

 

[Macspur261]

I prescribe kicking the cat up the arse it helped for me

Gotta get me a cat.
I think I'll need one before this season's done !

 

[Francis Gibbs]

I said performances have been mixed. Where did I say they've been real quality? We've done quite well in some and poor in others...but mainly we've played well in patches in some games and been poor in others. Of course Adebayor is a huge reason, but he still needs a platform to play off and some sort of service....he got very little today from a team that looked leggy and inept.

As for the Europa League it does have an affect, the extent of which is debatable but it most certainly does as other managers have repeatedly said.

Anyway we disagree, get over it and move on.

The point made was that performances have been poor despite results being good, good based on a couple of reasons, with performance not being one of them therefore today was always coming totally irrespective of playing on Thursday.
So when you consider the bigger picture your assertion todays performance was down to playing in the EL is just wrong there was much more to it - not that you will agree but hey you can only take a horse to water .....

 

[Scottish Spur]

Lets be honest, we can go over the tactical failings as much as we like, and there were many today. Too fucking many. So many I'm honestly seething.

However, what can't be excused by anybody was the sheer uninterest, lack of effort and damn right shameful attitude of pretty much every single one of them. They should be bloody embarrassed today. No excuses. Sherwood could send us out with the perfect 11 and bob on tactics but if the effort is that dire, it doesn't matter. No pressing, no chasing, a total lack of heart. Everything. They could have got 11 supporters from the crowd who'd have worked their arses off more than that shower did today. I feel for the fans who paid their money and wasted their time and energy travelling to Norfolk. Fucking embarrassing. Every single last one of them. A bloody disgrace they are, don't deserve CL football. Liverpool the last few weeks have come back twice at Fulham and got the win, worked their arses off after being pegged back twice today to win and we can't even be arsed to give 100% at Norwich. They deserve nothing.

 

[Mr Pink]

West Ham, started off like a bunch of headless chickens at 100mph, lost to two late goals. Southampton, yeah we could have had five, so could they. WBA reserves, we were shit and could/should have lost. Stoke we were good, but they were dreadful. Man Utd, we were decent but like Southampton could quite easily have lost as they pummeled us for large parts of the game. Arsenal we were clueless and shit, lined up as if we were playing Cardiff at home. Palace we should have been 3-0 down at half time. Swansea we were good, but not until we scored. They were much better for the first 35 minutes, another slow start under Sherwood. Man City, we were ripped apart and should have been dead and buried after half an hour. Could have got back into it, but who knows, ref fucked it up. Hull, poor. Wrong team selection and shape, they got through our defence at will, we were lucky to get a draw. Everton, we were second best for the whole game, some quick thinking and a great finish masked that. Newcastle, their fans think they'd have lost to a Conference team that night, they were so bad. Even then, they created some very good chances and Lloris had to bail us out on several occasions. Dnipro, largely meh, we'd probably have won had Eriksen's goal stood, or Soldado or Chadli not missed sitters. But again, they ripped us apart at will. Today, utterly woeful from start to finish.

So yeah, if you want to keep your head in the sand and believe that today was just the big, bad, nasty Europa League derailing our league form then fine, go ahead. Or, you could stop looking for an easy scapegoat to detract the blame from where it really should lie and realise that today's performance is nothing new since Sherwood took over, and is in fact indicative of how the team has played since then.

The only games under Sherwood where we've played well for more than an hour were against an awful Stoke team and an even worse Newcastle team. We were only going to be able to keep lucking results from shit performances for so long.

How many buts have you got in there...bloody hell!

Excuses for everything and of course the old....they were God awful shite teams.

I find this sort of post amazing I really do. You're actually saying that today was a typical performance under Sherwood?

Ok we were totally out played by City and we very poor against Palace in the first half but you're in complete denial if you think that performance today has been the way we've played under Sherwood in the main.

We were completely hopeless today and its utter crap to try and pretend that sort of level of performance would of got us 23 points from 30 in the last ten games - utter madness.

I've said repeatedly that its not just down to the Europa League but it plays a part IMO - the extent of which is debatable and hard to quantify but its relevant and it obviously has some sort of affect.

We created very little today. It wasn't until well into the second half that Soldado and then Chadli had semi decent chances. We've created far more in nearly every other game we've played under Sherwood thus far - so lets not make out this was a typical performance under Sherwood - it wasn't.

It was a bloody tired looking one.

 

[Mr Pink]

The point made was that performances have been poor despite results being good, good based on a couple of reasons, with performance not being one of them therefore today was always coming totally irrespective of playing on Thursday.
So when you consider the bigger picture your assertion todays performance was down to playing in the EL is just wrong there was much more to it - not that you will agree but hey you can only take a horse to water .....

Don't be silly.

Most people didn't expect us to win today because our performances have been so poor lol We're not the best away team in the League either for no reason.

Its horse shit to suggest that our performances have all been poor, they clearly havn't been.

The anger on this forum at the moment wouldn't be at the level its at if everybody was of the opinion that our performances have been so shit. They'd be far more accepting.

We've lacked consistency yes, and clearly need to improve in certain areas but all this our performances have been shit when we've taken 23 points from 30 and hold the best away record in the League just shows a complete lack of understanding.