Player watch: Danny Rose

[yiddopaul]

Well the noise is no-one is sold without Poch's blessing - as was the case with Walker.

Ultimately Poch puts a lot of faith in cultivating a togetherness, a band of brothers group. But he needs to be realistic, and not burn all bridges.

I read somewhere that Levy was happy not to sell him. It was up to Poch. I think people are getting bent out of shape because in the past, we've never had a manager that Levy trusted. I believe Levy and Poch are on the same page. I have always liked Rose, and this saddens me as I think we have to get rid now. But on our terms. He must be made to stay this season, either train with the kids (in case he poisons the dressing room) or be back up to Davis), and if it's to United then it will be for a new world record for a defender. Though I would prefer he be sold abroad.

 

[Khilari]

The fact that this already happened with Walker kind of disproves that. This is not unique, all our players will be well aware that they could earn more elsewhere, you don't need chippy fucking Rose, all ansty because he's been sat doing fuck all for 6 months, announcing this to the fucking Sun for our players to know this.

Selling Walker is much less pivotal (and certainly no more) than selling Carrick, Berbatov, Modric and Bale. We survived (and flourished) all.

I disagree. We set a precedent. Man City are our rivals for the title and have been strengthened by Walker, as FB was one of their weak spots. I don't mind that we've not signed players yet, but it is clearly seen as a sign of weakness by others - attempting to be exploited by Conte, the media and now by some of our players.

I thought the sale of Carrick, Berbatov, Modric and Bale were pivotal moments when we took steps back. With Carrick in the side we missed out on a Champions' League berth by a single lasagna, replaced him with Zokora and Huddlestone and were consigned to the Europa League for several years. The loss of Berbatov and Keane left us with another sacked manager. With Modric, Bale and VdV in the side we played in the Champions' League and looked as though we were on the up, then had yet another setback when they left, resulting in AVB's sacking.

Now were are, after some years on the ascendancy. 5th, 3rd, 2nd - stuff of dreams. NOW is the time to go for the kill. Losing both fullbacks - so important to our style of play will be of significant detriment. Sure, we won't be finishing 10th. But unless we can replace the likely outgoing Danny Rose with someone of equal or better quality, we won't be improving.

 

[jonnyp]

The club is strangely quiet. Is the upper echelon not unanimous of what action to take?

Uhm why on earth would the club publicly comment on this? I'm sure they know exactly what to do and Rose probably has to stand in front of his team mates and apologize is one of the actions I bet.

 

[Hazelton]

The fact that this already happened with Walker kind of disproves that. This is not unique, all our players will be well aware that they could earn more elsewhere, you don't need chippy fucking Rose, all ansty because he's been sat doing fuck all for 6 months, announcing this to the fucking Sun for our players to know this.

Selling Walker is much less pivotal (and certainly no more) than selling Carrick, Berbatov, Modric and Bale. We survived (and flourished) all.

Walker is the first key player we've sold since becoming the so-called "new Spurs" and actually challenging for the league. It suggests maybe we haven't changed after all and shows weakness. Still the feeder club, still vulnerable to the grasps of apparently 'bigger' clubs.

It doesn't make players more aware that they could earn more elsewhere, but it does set an example and a precedent. It shows that we'll sell if the player pouts and teams offer enough money, no matter our standing in the league.

 

[isaac94]

Quite shocked by all this, I thought he was Poch's so called son? teachers pet and all that. Terrible how he slagged off the fans, no other big club would of been as patient with him, imagine Man utd or Chelsea giving him the chance to grow in the team like we did? Seems like a lame excuse to me.
End of the day, Poch made him into the player he is today, and with many other examples have seen a career of stagnation when leaving him such as Luke Shaw and Callum Chambers.

 

[double0]

Walker is the first key player we've sold since becoming the so-called "new Spurs" and actually challenging for the league. It suggests maybe we haven't changed after all and shows weakness. Still the feeder club, still vulnerable to the grasps of apparently 'bigger' clubs.

It doesn't make players more aware that they could earn more elsewhere, but it does set an example and a precedent. It shows that we'll sell if the player pouts and teams offer enough money, no matter our standing in the league.

We have to get off our high horse all clubs sell their best players Barcelona had to sell Naymar....Money talks end of, however to rivals like we did with Walker doesn't look good.

Lets see whats going to happen with Courtinho

 

[Japhet]

Since so many on here constantly bleat about the media trying to destabilize us all the time, it seems that this article in The Sun has done the trick quite superbly. The hysteria it seems to have caused is ridiculous.

 

[Hazelton]

We have to get off our high horse all clubs sell their best players Barcelona had to sell Naymar....Money talks end of, however to rivals like we did with Walker doesn't look good.

Lets see whats going to happen with Courtinho

Barcelona had to sell Neymar because his release clause was met. They had no choice.

 

[Blake Griffin]

Barcelona had to sell Neymar because his release clause was met. They had no choice.

chelsea sold matic to utd, does that make them a feeder club?

 

[Johnny J]

Since so many on here constantly bleat about the media trying to destabilize us all the time, it seems that this article in The Sun has done the trick quite superbly. The hysteria it seems to have caused is ridiculous.

Our full backs were so good last season, it's no wonder they've had so much attention.

 

[double0]

Barcelona had to sell Neymar because his release clause was met. They had no choice.

I used to words "hard to sell' because of the obvious but thanks for highlighting

 

[spurs9]

This is where Poch has to earn his corn and prove he's not just a good manager, he can be a great one.

The easy thing would be to bomb Rose out of the club, and give him exactly what he wants - and then we've got another £50m in the bank, but have lost another key player, and will find it as hard to get a quality replacement as we currently are for Walker.

Poch has to be more sanguine though. He's currently got two massive things on his favour - one, Rose is currently injured until the window closes, so there will not be any of that "his mind isn't right to play" bullshit and, two, it's a World Cup year.

Isolate Rose until the window shuts, privately tell him you're sympathetic to his wage desire, but also tell him he's got to apologise to the squad for the disrespect, if he wants to play in a World Cup year.

A season can be a long time in football and the situation can be reassessed next summer.

I agree with this, however, my fear is that if we do keep him, the rags will have Mr "I will always speak my mind" on speed dial to give him an avenue to vent his frustration every time something doesn't go his way, which could rock the boat mid season.

He really has put the club in a shitty situation.

 

[Yid_Summers]

I don't know what games you've been watchinig but he's the best left back in the country the same as Walker was the best right back. We've lost one we don't want to lose another. I suppose if Ali and Dier go you will say they were shit aswell and we don't need them ?

You obviously can't read. I said he was crap until Poch came along. Since then he's come on leaps and bounds. But with that attitude he can fuck off for all I care.

I suggest you read posts carefully before quoting them and going gung ho and putting fabrications into the mix.

But no player is bigger than this club. Players have come and gone, we're still here.

 

[ralvy]

So, Rose likes bragging about always speaking his mind and saying it like it is, yet doesn't actually have the balls to openly say it's a transfer to another club what he actually wants?? I never really liked Rose, but I didn't know he was such a pussy hypocrite. Hope we get rid of him before the international break.

 

[spursram]

Some folk saying do a deal involving Luke Shaw. I was quite up for that, but I wondered how much would Shaw be asking for? Well this gives an insight:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jul/26/jose-mourinho-chelsea-luke-shaw-wages

So, forget about Luke Shaw I think!

The money has gone crazy hasn't it? Lets hope Levy/Poch can hold it together fo a couple more years, but this season will be difficult enough without players pissing in the tent. Thanks Danny.

 

[Hoddtastic72]

Wow. We are such an oversensitive group of fans. DR is just being honest. I would like to think he's just ramping up pressure on Daniel Levy with regard to new signings, rather than agitating for a new contract or angling for a move. I posted this (below) on another site. Go on, shoot me down ...

I can't see anything wrong with any aspect of Rose's statement (as a lifelong Spurs fan). Danny Rose is not a Spurs fan, merely a well-paid employee of the club. He sees himself playing up north at the end of his career - no surprise there, and no slight to THFC. He wants a shot at one last big contract - of course he does. Who wouldn't? Seems to me that could easily be at Spurs, if the purse strings are loosened a little when the new stadium revenue comes onstream. If Levy continues to keep things as tight as they are now it will be no surprise if one or two players leave for more money elsewhere. Timing? - again, seems perfectly reasonable to me. This could be viewed as Rose attempting to apply a bit of pressure to Levy and the other Tottenham paymasters.

Sure he wants a few big names through the door. Why not? (sdo most fans) It doesn't have to be Bale or Messi. But I don't think the likes of Barklay, Mahrez or Balde are particularly unrealistic. Get two of them, and we massively increase our attacking options. And the likes of Danny Rose would be quietly pleased that his statement has had the desired effect.

Then it's just down to trophies. A couple of major trophies over the next two or three seasons will keep most of the players happy, I think (if combined with realistic, and well-earned, pay rises). This is where it gets a little more complicated - it's ultimately up to the players to keep raising their game to ensure we do win trophies. Sometimes it appears they don't understand that. Or view a switch to a 'bigger' club as the quicker, easier way of achieving it.

We should sign players just to please Danny rose? Surely he can see the club are waiting till nearer the transfer deadline in order to not overpay in the current inflated market. It's quite clear Danny rose isn't worried about the club achieving success.hes more worried about playing for one of the big money club. If that's his intention we should sell him to a Chinese club

 

[Blake Griffin]

https://twitter.com/CookPassTim/status/895746654975819776

 

[bubble07]

This is exactly why I was against selling Walker, we should have stood firm and not sold him regardless of price. When you allow one of your key players to leave to another Premier League team, it sends out a negative message to the league and to your other players. If it wasn't bad enough that we've removed a piece of the league's best defence and weakened our team, the move also makes it look like we're behind City in the pecking order. As if, no matter how good we become, the bigger, richer clubs can cherry pick our players whenever they like. We justify it with huge fees and pat ourselves on the back, but really that's just wrong. Is Walker worth £50m? Absolutely not. Can he be replaced? Who knows, it depends on a number of factors. That's why it's not worth the risk, especially when we haven't invested the money back in to the team (that may change, admittedly).

If I'm a Spurs player and I see Walker moan and then be allowed to leave, the message I'm receiving is firstly that City have more ambition than us, and secondly that if I want more money or I'm not happy, I can ask to leave and that's that, they'll allow it. To another Premier League team, no less. Fantastic, won't even have to learn another language.

Selling Walker will become a pivotal moment in the future of the club, in my opinion. It was an opportunity to stand firm and show that we're now one of the big guns, but instead it showed that if the money's right, everyone's for sale. No matter how close we are to something special or how much progress we've made over the last few years. Don't get me wrong, I like Trippier, but anybody who doesn't see that he is a significant downgrade on Walker is deluded. Our team is weaker than it was at the end of last season, when we fell short, and the rest of the teams around us have strengthened, so why wouldn't players start to worry about our chances of winning things? It's common sense.

That said, Rose should be keeping this to himself or voicing his concerns privately with the club. Massively disappointed with him for doing this just days before the start of the season, if at all.

But I actually think Poch prefers Trippier to him

 

[tttcowan]

"I don’t usually blow my own trumpet, but I was a good player before the manager came. I am an even better one now and he has helped me become more consistent.”

“But don’t ever speak about me as if I had two left feet before he arrived. I am not having that. I’ll never forget how some fans treated me when I signed a contract.”

“I have been desperate to get that on record and I hope people read about my mindset on that one. I am happy at Tottenham, I love my team-mates and the fans have been great for the last three years.”

“But I got a lot of stick before Mauricio came to the club. I’ll never forget some of the things they were saying about me.”

Personally I've got a hell of a lot of time for Danny. I'll be genuinely sad to see him go if he does. Our current situation with wages and transfer funds is looking increasingly precarious and DL and Poch need to really pull something out the bag to steady the ship. And with Danny it's a shame how easily we forget what a bunch of pricks a lot of fans were about him. Anyway, for me he'll always be proper spurs whatever happens.

OOOOHHHH, WHAT A GOAL! IT'S DAAAANNNNYYY ROOOOSSSSEEEE. ON HIS PREMIER LEAGUE DEBUT WITH A MEMORABLE STRIKE!

 

[SugarRay]

Let's, for one second just try and remember one thing...

This is Danny fucking Rose we are talking about!!!!??!

This club has had some of the greatest players to have graced British football pitches proudly wear our shirt. Be it Blanchflower, Mackay, Greaves, Hoddle, Klinsmann, Gascoigne, Modric and co, yet suddenly Danny Rose's opinion matters?

Fuck him. Royally. Dry and right in his fucking arse. He is but a mere blip, another name on the roster of those who happened to wear our shirt, and that's after 9 years "service". Two bob little **** who suddenly thinks he's cracked it after a few England caps. Danny...Ashley Cole you really are not. Granted, he was a much better player but that at least gave him an excuse to be a self entitled little wanker, Rose is giving it Bertie big bollocks after two decent seasons in an age where, weirdly, fairly decent full backs are rare as rocking horse shat. I guess that's haleped to his over inflated opinion of himself.