Player Watch: Erik Lamela

[Yid]

I dunno why Roma would sell him to us for less than a ridiculously inflated fee. The coach doesn't want to sell him, and they probably knew or suspected Baldini would be back fishing for their talent.

Apparently they have some new American owners (or maybe not new at all?) who are loaded, so money might not be an obstacle for them.

Yes, on all points.
They don't wanna sell him (and if they decide to, it will be for a grossly inflated amount - btw, the rumoured sum bid of £28 million sounds about right).
They sure do have relatively new American owners who are loaded, and money is not an issue (especially since they sold Marquinhos to PSG for about £28 million + addons, etc).
So, back to my original point -->> considering they bought Lamela a couple of years ago from River Plate for almost £15 million, and he was just recently (in June) valued at approximately £20 + million, and they normally inflate the price tag by at least £5-6 million...In this particular case (Lamela being a real hot commodity and their best player, we can expect another 3-4 mil added on), so they will demand a minimum of £30 million for golden boy.
Which means Baldini and Levy will pillow-talk them down to £27-28 million (and that will be the agreed transfer fee, if it ever gets to that point).
Because as much as I want either Lamela or Willian to happen, this is just too good to be true.
If we didn't just break our own transfer records twice this summer and manage to add Chadli + Capoue on top of those, then I would be somewhat optimistic in regards to our intent as far as Lamela or Willian are concerned.
But knowing that we still have needs on defense (which may not even be addressed this window), it's just not realistic for me to expect such extravagant signings as Lamela or Willian.
On the other hand, I wouldn't be shocked if we were to go after Osvaldo (or even Muriel), and possibly an LB or a CB. I would be surprised at those, but not shocked.
Whereas Lamela or Willian I would be absolutely shocked.
Let's be completely honest with ourselves for a moment, and admit that (for the most part) before this transfer window opened, we didn't even have one tenth of the lofty expectations that we do now. Am I right? In fact, IIRC, most of us (including me) would have been placated by a relatively average striker, and perhaps a quality CDM and an LB, but when the ball got rolling, we were blown away by our scouts' efforts. They took us above and beyond our wildest expectations, imo.

It would be unrealistic (to put it mildly) to expect much more this summer. Plus, there isn't much time left anyway. Perhaps we'll add a couple more solid signings this winter.

Not trying to sound like Debbie Downer here, but it's how I feel. Yes, if Gareth takes off, I suppose we can expect and even demand something akin to an adequate replacement, but we've already spent about £60 million without even getting a penny for him yet.

All the rumours regarding JL and his chequebook sound sweet, and I'd love to be proven wrong (on more than one point), but for now I guess I'll remain my old cynical Tottenham supporter self

COYS

 

[Ron Burgundy]

I do slightly feel that Lamela would be too good to be true. Can see other CL clubs going for him as we'll, not least Man U

Attacking midfield is an issue thou now. We need one more player in any event, and if Bale goes, a replacement of the highest quality

 

[mil1lion]

Yes, on all points.
They don't wanna sell him (and if they decide to, it will be for a grossly inflated amount - btw, the rumoured sum bid of £28 million sounds about right).
They sure do have relatively new American owners who are loaded, and money is not an issue (especially since they sold Marquinhos to PSG for about £28 million + addons, etc).
So, back to my original point -->> considering they bought Lamela a couple of years ago from River Plate for almost £15 million, and he was just recently (in June) valued at approximately £20 + million, and they normally inflate the price tag by at least £5-6 million...In this particular case (Lamela being a real hot commodity and their best player, we can expect another 3-4 mil added on), so they will demand a minimum of £30 million for golden boy.
Which means Baldini and Levy will pillow-talk them down to £27-28 million (and that will be the agreed transfer fee, if it ever gets to that point).
Because as much as I want either Lamela or Willian to happen, this is just too good to be true.
If we didn't just break our own transfer records twice this summer and manage to add Chadli + Capoue on top of those, then I would be somewhat optimistic in regards to our intent as far as Lamela or Willian are concerned.
But knowing that we still have needs on defense (which may not even be addressed this window), it's just not realistic for me to expect such extravagant signings as Lamela or Willian.
On the other hand, I wouldn't be shocked if we were to go after Osvaldo (or even Muriel), and possibly an LB or a CB. I would be surprised at those, but not shocked.
Whereas Lamela or Willian I would be absolutely shocked.
Let's be completely honest with ourselves for a moment, and admit that (for the most part) before this transfer window opened, we didn't even have one tenth of the lofty expectations that we do now. Am I right? In fact, IIRC, most of us (including me) would have been placated by a relatively average striker, and perhaps a quality CDM and an LB, but when the ball got rolling, we were blown away by our scouts' efforts. They took us above and beyond our wildest expectations, imo.

It would be unrealistic (to put it mildly) to expect much more this summer. Plus, there isn't much time left anyway. Perhaps we'll add a couple more solid signings this winter.

Not trying to sound like Debbie Downer here, but it's how I feel. Yes, if Gareth takes off, I suppose we can expect and even demand something akin to an adequate replacement, but we've already spent about £60 million without even getting a penny for him yet.

All the rumours regarding JL and his chequebook sound sweet, and I'd love to be proven wrong (on more than one point), but for now I guess I'll remain my old cynical Tottenham supporter self

COYS

Sounds like Modric. Signed for around £15m and now likely to be sold for at least double that.

The only way I can see this happening (or Willian) is if we are selling Bale.

 

[EllenAlex]

I still feel our squad set up would benefit from a genuine left-footer on the left flank. It's a really rare outlet. Lamela could fill that role, as well as playing central. Especially if it meant alternating with someone like Eriksen.

At Lamela's age, the room for adaptation is big. Definitely one of my wants if Bale has to go.

 

[Mr Pink]

Yes, on all points.
They don't wanna sell him (and if they decide to, it will be for a grossly inflated amount - btw, the rumoured sum bid of £28 million sounds about right).
They sure do have relatively new American owners who are loaded, and money is not an issue (especially since they sold Marquinhos to PSG for about £28 million + addons, etc).
So, back to my original point -->> considering they bought Lamela a couple of years ago from River Plate for almost £15 million, and he was just recently (in June) valued at approximately £20 + million, and they normally inflate the price tag by at least £5-6 million...In this particular case (Lamela being a real hot commodity and their best player, we can expect another 3-4 mil added on), so they will demand a minimum of £30 million for golden boy.
Which means Baldini and Levy will pillow-talk them down to £27-28 million (and that will be the agreed transfer fee, if it ever gets to that point).
Because as much as I want either Lamela or Willian to happen, this is just too good to be true.
If we didn't just break our own transfer records twice this summer and manage to add Chadli + Capoue on top of those, then I would be somewhat optimistic in regards to our intent as far as Lamela or Willian are concerned.
But knowing that we still have needs on defense (which may not even be addressed this window), it's just not realistic for me to expect such extravagant signings as Lamela or Willian.
On the other hand, I wouldn't be shocked if we were to go after Osvaldo (or even Muriel), and possibly an LB or a CB. I would be surprised at those, but not shocked.
Whereas Lamela or Willian I would be absolutely shocked.
Let's be completely honest with ourselves for a moment, and admit that (for the most part) before this transfer window opened, we didn't even have one tenth of the lofty expectations that we do now. Am I right? In fact, IIRC, most of us (including me) would have been placated by a relatively average striker, and perhaps a quality CDM and an LB, but when the ball got rolling, we were blown away by our scouts' efforts. They took us above and beyond our wildest expectations, imo.

It would be unrealistic (to put it mildly) to expect much more this summer. Plus, there isn't much time left anyway. Perhaps we'll add a couple more solid signings this winter.

Not trying to sound like Debbie Downer here, but it's how I feel. Yes, if Gareth takes off, I suppose we can expect and even demand something akin to an adequate replacement, but we've already spent about £60 million without even getting a penny for him yet.

All the rumours regarding JL and his chequebook sound sweet, and I'd love to be proven wrong (on more than one point), but for now I guess I'll remain my old cynical Tottenham supporter self

COYS

We've sold Dempsey and Caulker for 15 million and there will be more to follow aside from Bale.

We've had the extra TV money plus AVB has earned the trust of the board and needs to be backed.

Yes expectations were lower but that's because most of us thought Bale would stay another year. Selling him for a world record fee changes the landscape completely.

I think its perfectly reasonable to expect one more stellar signing on top of the business we've already done even though we need more defensive reinforcements in.

 

[jambreck]

We've sold Dempsey and Caulker for 15 million and there will be more to follow aside from Bale.

We've had the extra TV money plus AVB has earned the trust of the board and needs to be backed.

Yes expectations were lower but that's because most of us thought Bale would stay another year. Selling him for a world record fee changes the landscape completely.

I think its perfectly reasonable to expect one more stellar signing on top of the business we've already done even though we need more defensive reinforcements in.

And Thudd for £5m +. Probably a loan fee for Livermore too.

 

[Yid]

We've sold Dempsey and Caulker for 15 million and there will be more to follow aside from Bale.

We've had the extra TV money plus AVB has earned the trust of the board and needs to be backed.

Yes expectations were lower but that's because most of us thought Bale would stay another year. Selling him for a world record fee changes the landscape completely.

I think its perfectly reasonable to expect one more stellar signing on top of the business we've already done even though we need more defensive reinforcements in.

So, do you expect just one more stellar signing (such as Lamela or Willian), AND some defensive reinforcements? Or just one more stellar signing (and that's it)? Or even more than all of the above?

 

[Snarfalicious]

We could realistically still bring in another £20m in player sales, obviously not counting Bale, when it's all said and done.

The money is going to be somewhat available. It'll be interesting if there is more money available other than the "Bale money" or if we want to hold onto it for the stadium or we can't access it because it's going to be paid in installments. Obviously, it'd be nice to think that we will spend what we sell, what we get up front from Bale and that £50m loan from Lewis is legit.

 

[beats1]

We could realistically still bring in another £20m in player sales, obviously not counting Bale, when it's all said and done.

The money is going to be somewhat available. It'll be interesting if there is more money available other than the "Bale money" or if we want to hold onto it for the stadium or we can't access it because it's going to be paid in installments. Obviously, it'd be nice to think that we will spend what we sell, what we get up front from Bale and that £50m loan from Lewis is legit.

Indeed about that £50mill gift or loan, which if Bale is sold, its bullshit imo

If we bring in £20mill plus the £85mill for Bale we would have brought in £125million over the window.

Now to achieve that £50mill figure we would have to spend £175million. Now we spent £58million and does anyone see us spending £113million?

I'll be honest and say I cant, but can see us spending £63million, yes and even more so if Madrid are going to send a player instead of making the second part of the payment for the modric money.

 

[Yid]

Indeed about that £50mill gift or loan, which if Bale is sold, its bullshit imo

If we bring in £20mill plus the £85mill for Bale we would have brought in £125million over the window.

Now to achieve that £50mill figure we would have to spend £175million. Now we spent £58million and does anyone see us spending £113million?

I'll be honest and say I cant, but can see us spending £63million, yes and even more so if Madrid are going to send a player instead of making the second part of the payment for the modric money.

That part in bold is looking less and less likely ATM.

 

[beats1]

That part in bold is looking less and less likely ATM.

i was thinking coentrao but if we got Morata that would be potentially our best signing

 

[sim0n]

well, maybe get Lamela and Erickson?... about 40 mil total? not too sure how happy Holtby and Sigi would be,... or how long they wold still be at WHL... all just presented for conversation's sake, o ITK here or any info, just adding 2+2=5

 

[Yid]

Good article below about Lamela's development by Richard Whittle.

Must be tempting to stick with the 4-2-3-1, we'd finally have someone suitable to play that position.

Link

Good article.
I think I am going to lose my mind with all the temptation, before this window closes.

 

[vavaboom]

I'm starting to wonder if our reported "interest" in Osvaldo hasn't just been to block his move to Southampton, to put Roma in a worse negotiating position on Lamela.

Reports were that Roma tried to move our interest away from Lamela and on to Osvaldo, as apparently we'd enquired about him earlier. They are desperately trying to shift Osvaldo, I guess the fans still hate him after he took a penalty that one of their beloved veterans was supposed to take.

Very much hope Lamela deal comes off. His transfer is the very minimum if Bale leaves.

 

[Spurs2010]

I prefer him over Willian as Bale replacement. If we sold bale for 70 mil + Coentrao I would be ok with that. We could use that 70 mil like this : 35 mil - Lamela , Rebic - 5 mil , 15 mil Osvaldo and 10-15 mil for CB and LB cover.

 

[edgey]

I prefer him over Willian as Bale replacement. If we sold bale for 70 mil + Coentrao I would be ok with that. We could use that 70 mil like this : 35 mil - Lamela , Rebic - 5 mil , 15 mil Osvaldo and 10-15 mil for CB and LB cover.

But you would have Coentrao

For me I would be ecstatic if we signed Lamela, Alderweireld and Coentrao... That there is fantasy football

 

[Spurs2010]

But you would have Coentrao

For me I would be ecstatic if we signed Lamela, Alderweireld and Coentrao... That there is fantasy football

I ment we need one player to cover both CB and LB positions. We are abit slim there imo.

 

[edgey]

I ment we need one player to cover both CB and LB positions. We are abit slim there imo.

Vertonghen, Rose, BAE (not sold yet) all LB cover, would only sell one of those I would've thought. CB cover yes, although capoue can also cover there too. AVB has gone for players who can play multiple postitions to have a tighter knit squad covering all areas

 

[Spurs2010]

Vertonghen, Rose, BAE (not sold yet) all LB cover, would only sell one of those I would've thought. CB cover yes, although capoue can also cover there too. AVB has gone for players who can play multiple postitions to have a tighter knit squad covering all areas

BAE will probably be sold. Vertoghen should play CB when ever possible. Rose I am not sure he is good enough to be top 4 material. Weakest link in starting 11 for sure. So one player who could play CB and LB would be great

 

[KaNoUtE9]

Vertonghen, Rose, BAE (not sold yet) all LB cover, would only sell one of those I would've thought. CB cover yes, although capoue can also cover there too. AVB has gone for players who can play multiple postitions to have a tighter knit squad covering all areas

Naughton is also cover. If Coentrao signs, then we are well covered at left back.