What's new

Player watch: Josh Onomah

Lilbaz

Just call me Baz
Apr 1, 2005
41,363
74,893
Ask leicester fans what they thought of kane when he was older than onomah is now.

You may be right and onomah might not make the step up. But at least give him till he's 21/22 before writing him off.
 

SlotBadger

({})?
Jul 24, 2013
13,919
43,643
Considering you considered his post to have "reasoning and justification" you appear to not have read it or not read it well. As he clearly brings up comparisons with Mason and Kane when at youth level
I'm not referring to any comparison to Kane or Mason. I'm only responding to Bobbins' opinion that he hasn't seen enough star quality within his (very limited) performances.
Simply put its impossible to come to any justified and reasoned opinion about a player whose played so few minutes at that age.
I completely agree with this. I would like to give him a few seasons of considerable game time before writing him off. I'm just saying that there is nothing wrong with stating that a player hasn't set the world on fire, no matter how harsh a criticism it may be, given his tender age.

He gave reason for his opinion, as opposed to "he's shit, get rid" type comments (hence 'reason and justification').
 

CowInAComa

Well-Known Member
Aug 31, 2012
7,293
18,237
I'll get slated for this no doubt as it's a very unfashionable line to take, but even taking into account that he's very young, I've honestly seen little so far to suggest he'll become anything particularly special.

That's fine, not every player is destined to succeed at the top, and perhaps his game will hugely develop over the next couple of years. But unlike Kane, who scored hatfuls at every age and level, or Mason, who was regularly identified as the most talented of his age group at Spurs, or Bentaleb, who came in from nowhere and dominated midfielders ten years older than him, I'm not currently seeing anything from Onomah which is crying out with potential. I'm just not sure what he's actually supposed to be good at, at the moment. He doesn't score, doesn't really create, doesn't dribble particularly well - he tends to just play fairly accurate short passes and get himself into the odd decent position. He's not actually produced anything so far in his (now quite a few) appearances which is a bit disappointing.

Soz. I look forward to him proving me completely wrong in the future.

Yes. Me neither. But poch likes him and he knows better than us. So that's good enough for me.

Was unimpressed with Kane early doors as well.
 

Bobbins

SC's 14th Sexiest Male 2008
May 5, 2005
21,598
45,146
His 18 give the lad a break, the kid has star quality wait and see, my only reservation is he needs to add goals but technically and creatively he is something special.

The lad can dribble btw very well.

Don't see why anyone takes the time to debate with someone writing off an 18 year old. Not really an opinion worth debating now is it? Quite laughable really.

They never learn either do they? Waaaay more of our youth players, in recent years, have gone on to be a success with us after being slagged off. I'm still waiting for @kaz Hirai to eat his pants

Yeah but he's wrong in his reasoning from the off.

Others have already noted that he has been identified as one of the best, if not the best in his age group. So he's wrong in that point. Anyone who has seen him against his peers in the U21s will confirm he's an exceptionally good dribbler and good creative player, he is a poor finisher though. So wrong on that count.

So no the post doesn't have reasoning and justification if it's built on a platform that's entirely false.

Well I did say I'd get slated so it was to be expected. But only because I knew how unfashionable it is to be even slightly critical of any youth player on here. One less than stellar review and the hipsters are out in force.

How about we don't re-write history though and start accusing me of "writing him off" when all I've done is give my honest opinion based on what I've seen of him so far.

Jeez, the anger you lot react with you'd think I'd tried to run him down in my car and end his career FFS.
 

allpaths

Well-Known Member
Oct 31, 2014
3,178
8,392
Well I did say I'd get slated so it was to be expected. But only because I knew how unfashionable it is to be even slightly critical of any youth player on here. One less than stellar review and the hipsters are out in force.

How about we don't re-write history though and start accusing me of "writing him off" when all I've done is give my honest opinion based on what I've seen of him so far.

Jeez, the anger you lot react with you'd think I'd tried to run him down in my car and end his career FFS.
We don't mind that you have an opinion we just wished it wasn't so shit and uninformed (y)
 

Larryjanta

Well-Known Member
Apr 22, 2014
1,953
5,040
Well I did say I'd get slated so it was to be expected. But only because I knew how unfashionable it is to be even slightly critical of any youth player on here. One less than stellar review and the hipsters are out in force.

How about we don't re-write history though and start accusing me of "writing him off" when all I've done is give my honest opinion based on what I've seen of him so far.

Jeez, the anger you lot react with you'd think I'd tried to run him down in my car and end his career FFS.

I've never been called a hipster before. Thanks
 

Jimmypearce7

Well-Known Member
Feb 23, 2005
1,476
2,256
Every time he has been on we have seen the same thing- some skill and very strong but no sign he can create or score, with yesterday's weak shot when well placed typical.
As with all young Spurs players, i want to believe they will be great, but there has to be a basis for that and i haven't seen it yet.
 

oskathegobshite

#Spursy
Jan 20, 2004
1,686
2,393
I think he will make it from what I have seen but I expect him to be playing deeper than he has been as creativity and decision making round the 18 yard box don't appear to be his strengths
 

danielneeds

Kick-Ass
May 5, 2004
24,182
48,812
Every time he has been on we have seen the same thing- some skill and very strong but no sign he can create or score, with yesterday's weak shot when well placed typical.
As with all young Spurs players, i want to believe they will be great, but there has to be a basis for that and i haven't seen it yet.
I think he'll end up being a sort of Michael Carrick type - not a prolific goalscorer or assisting, but a tempo setter and something setting up the team's attacks.
 

Shadydan

Well-Known Member
Jul 7, 2012
38,247
104,143
I think he needs a loan next season, the guy needs games in the Premiership and he needs to be played in his correct position as well, needs a bit of confidence and an identity.
 

spurs9

Well-Known Member
Aug 31, 2012
11,893
34,370
Every time he has been on we have seen the same thing- some skill and very strong but no sign he can create or score, with yesterday's weak shot when well placed typical.
As with all young Spurs players, i want to believe they will be great, but there has to be a basis for that and i haven't seen it yet.
That's because he is a CM playing in AM.
 

DEFchenkOE

Well-Known Member
Feb 13, 2006
10,527
8,052
I think he needs a loan next season, the guy needs games in the Premiership and he needs to be played in his correct position as well, needs a bit of confidence and an identity.

He'd be lucky to get a prem loan. I think we should give Chrissy H a call and see if he fancies him at Brighton next season.
 

ultimateloner

Well-Known Member
Jan 25, 2004
4,569
2,203
This 19 yr old is getting some mins with a top 4 side in the UK. Enough said really. We are not Swansea etc...anyone less good wouldn't even get a place on the bench.
 

THFC_SWE

Well-Known Member
Aug 31, 2012
1,238
3,937
Yeah, lets slate a young talent based on a few cameos. How easy do you think it is for him to enter a game and play well when his more experienced team mates played a bag of dog shit?
 

Shadydan

Well-Known Member
Jul 7, 2012
38,247
104,143
He'd be lucky to get a prem loan. I think we should give Chrissy H a call and see if he fancies him at Brighton next season.

He needs something, he needs to go to a team where he's the main man, the guy has so much talent.
 

thinktank

Hmmm...
Sep 28, 2004
45,893
68,893
Needs a loan until January (then re-assess) Needs week-in/out footy.

Will be here for a long time though imo. Got the goods.
 

rossdapep

Well-Known Member
Aug 25, 2011
22,154
79,688
I think he needs a loan next season, the guy needs games in the Premiership and he needs to be played in his correct position as well, needs a bit of confidence and an identity.
Just as long we don't send him to West fucking Bromwich. Sending Pritchard to Tony Pulis was a bit like sending Sansa Stark to Ramsay Boulton.........fucking torture!
 

THFC_SWE

Well-Known Member
Aug 31, 2012
1,238
3,937
Just as long we don't send him to West fucking Bromwich. Sending Pritchard to Tony Pulis was a bit like sending Sansa Stark to Ramsay Boulton.........fucking torture!

Lets hope he doesn't end up like Theon Greyjoy then. :p
 

mpickard2087

Patient Zero
Jun 13, 2008
21,889
32,562
I think it's a combination of a) a young player who is still finding his feet at senior level and b) another case of a midfielder coming through the ranks who has been brought up playing 4-3-3 and is struggling to find his 'best fit' in Poch's 4-2-3-1, especially when he keeps getting shunted out wide.
 

Spurs 1961

Well-Known Member
Aug 31, 2012
6,683
8,754
Routing for the lad, like all Spurs players. Have banned myself from making any judgements after Kane proved to be a lot more more than the donkey I thought he was
 
Top