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Player Watch: Ryan Mason

double0

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We must allow Bentaleb and Mason time. I have been very impressed with Mason's work load.

Loving this team squads youth. Lamela Mason Bentaleb Dier Kane Eriksen
 

Lufti

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Can certainly see Mason in and out of the team over the next 5 years or so, a good player with an outstanding performance today.

Unfortunately I think Bentaleb has Bayern written all over him.

Because if there's one thing Bayern need it's another CM? o_O
 

Foufighta

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Jan 31, 2013
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How about a bit of Disney? To the tune of 'Gaston' from Beauty and the Beast:

Noooo, oooonnneeee fights like Mason,
Or excites like Mason,
No one gives the opponent a fright like Mason,
And the best part of all he's a yid,
He's Tottenham's thirty-eight

And repeat.

I'll let myself out :oops::sorry:

Are you kidding, Lufti? This is freakin glorious! We need a photoshop of Mason's face on Gaston's body, quick.
 

Larryjanta

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Thought this from Scholes was very apt for this thread:

The Salford-born player added: "In the periods of my career when I stopped passing the ball forward, or when I stopped looking for the risky pass that might open up a defence, the consequences were the same. The manager stopped picking me.

That's the way Mason plays, so, those nit picking at his, sometimes, sloppy passes shouldn't be so harsh on him. It's clear Mason has the role of getting the ball forward as quickly as possible and our tempo is so much better with him in the side.

Thoughts @iluvsteffenfreund ?
 

Spurger King

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Thought this from Scholes was very apt for this thread:

The Salford-born player added: "In the periods of my career when I stopped passing the ball forward, or when I stopped looking for the risky pass that might open up a defence, the consequences were the same. The manager stopped picking me.

That's the way Mason plays, so, those nit picking at his, sometimes, sloppy passes shouldn't be so harsh on him. It's clear Mason has the role of getting the ball forward as quickly as possible and our tempo is so much better with him in the side.

Thoughts @iluvsteffenfreund ?

Exactly. He won't have the same pass completion stats as Dembele or even Paulinho, but that's because he takes the sort of risks necessary if we're going to avoid the tedious sideways football we had under AVB.

The best thing is that Mason's not even played enough games to constitute half a season. The more he plays, the more he'll understand the movement of the players around him, and those players will learn when to anticipate Mason's passes.
 

Larryjanta

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Exactly. He won't have the same pass completion stats as Dembele or even Paulinho, but that's because he takes the sort of risks necessary if we're going to avoid the tedious sideways football we had under AVB.

The best thing is that Mason's not even played enough games to constitute half a season. The more he plays, the more he'll understand the movement of the players around him, and those players will learn when to anticipate Mason's passes.

I couldn't agree more. Too many looking at his age and expecting more when they should be looking at his games played. Not even prem games but first team games full stop. Sure, we could spend £30m and upgrade him but I still think we have no way of knowing what his ceiling is and I, for one, am excited to find out. Loyalty works both ways, if we keep complaining when players leave us, we shouldn't complain if we won't give players the chance to make it with us.
 

DJS

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It still fascinates me how Mason was up top a lot for our youth teams and has then slotted smoothly into a deeper midfield role for the first team.
 

JerryGarcia

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It still fascinates me how Mason was up top a lot for our youth teams and has then slotted smoothly into a deeper midfield role for the first team.

I'm sure I read ages ago that he said he used to study Modric in training and was trying to learn as much as he could from him. It might have been Carroll who said that though, anyone remember?
 

Lufti

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Yes they aren't going to buy him tomorrow night are they

They've got 3 very highly rated youth CMs and that's without mentioning Thiago, I don't think we need to worry about Bayern coming in for him any time
 

fuzzylogic

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I couldn't agree more. Too many looking at his age and expecting more when they should be looking at his games played. Not even prem games but first team games full stop. Sure, we could spend £30m and upgrade him but I still think we have no way of knowing what his ceiling is and I, for one, am excited to find out. Loyalty works both ways, if we keep complaining when players leave us, we shouldn't complain if we won't give players the chance to make it with us.

Could not have said it any better. Spot on
 

iluvsteffenfreund

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I couldn't agree more. Too many looking at his age and expecting more when they should be looking at his games played. Not even prem games but first team games full stop. Sure, we could spend £30m and upgrade him but I still think we have no way of knowing what his ceiling is and I, for one, am excited to find out. Loyalty works both ways, if we keep complaining when players leave us, we shouldn't complain if we won't give players the chance to make it with us.
Good article... I was reading a similar one in glowing reference to dembele by Jamie carragher just yesterday! Seems now we are making people stand up and notice our players after putting a few results together!

Mason is great at getting about the pitch and flys in with tackles most of which he won't make but shows willing which is great and I love his energy. For me though you need a bit more? I'm yet to be convinced by his passing yes he passes it forward but anyone can if they are losing possession and this seems to be creeping in more and more ? I'm still worried how easy the likes of Ramsay ran off him for the arsenal goal last week and I don't think he will score enough goals to contribute, however I was wrong about Kane so let's see how mason fares till the end of the season. For me I would love to see schniederlin in there as he offers a bit more but again just my opinion. I'd love mason to succeed I really would but I do have my doubts that he will establish himself as a top top player, a good squad player yes but I think we need more in our engine room. Hope to be proved wrong.

I suppose I also worry that watching him play on loan for Doncaster and Yeovil I wasn't impressed and he was better when he went to Swindon without setting the world alight. Pritchard was always the better player for me Everytime I watched them
 

guy

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May 31, 2007
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I couldn't agree more. Too many looking at his age and expecting more when they should be looking at his games played. Not even prem games but first team games full stop. Sure, we could spend £30m and upgrade him but I still think we have no way of knowing what his ceiling is and I, for one, am excited to find out. Loyalty works both ways, if we keep complaining when players leave us, we shouldn't complain if we won't give players the chance to make it with us.

Not to mention those 30m players won't likely even come to us.

Great talent is mason, to receive that praise from England's only recent world class passer(arguably) of the ball is unbelievable
 

DJS

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Dec 9, 2006
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They could do with another CM playing CB :whistle:

Or convert one of their full backs to midfielder so all their lovely midfielders can sit on bench and keep each other company and have slumber parties :)
 

al_pacino

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It still fascinates me how Mason was up top a lot for our youth teams and has then slotted smoothly into a deeper midfield role for the first team.

He who mustn't be mentioned(Sol Campbell) was a forward in the you team, made his début on the right wing and ended up even further back than Mason has.
 
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