Ratings vs Everton

[Chinaspur]

Spurs fans 10 - loved the moment Lennon was subbed to boos from the Everton fans. Spurs fans struck a round of 'There's only one Aaron Lennon' to applause from the Everton fans.
Just be glad tonight that you're not an Everton fan - their support was so silent and grumbly!

 

[Ossie85]

Lloris - 7
Walker - 7
Verts/Toby - 7
Davies - 6
Carroll - 5
Dier - 6
Lamela - 6
Eriksen - 5
Alli - 8
Kane - 5

Son - 4
Chadli/Onomah - NET

 

[mano-obe]

First half every player was brilliant, great pressing, great retaining of the ball, and even at a goal down we didn't let it get us down, we just knuckled down and sprayed the ball around and Everton were chasing shadows.

I thought we coped pretty well with any pressure they put on us second half and we still looked good on the ball. The only negatives I see from the match were the substitutions. I really like Son off the ball, but I don't always trust him on it, especially when it comes to quick passing or retaining possession. If he is on the end of a chance then I'm 100% for him, but there has been a few times where I have watched him and he is a little off the pace, but it's early days and the bloke got us a winner the other day. Chadli is pretty much the same, I trust him to get into great positions and cause a threat but when it comes to the nitty gritty and a quick pass I sometimes wonder.

That's just me being a bit nitpicky with the above players, but it's still a great option to have off the bench.

As for the game, we should have been 2 or 3 up first half, but it was great spirit to get back into the game. If only that first half went on a bit longer we maybe could have gone in at 2-1.

I thought Toby and Jan defended very well against Lukaku, I like the way Vertonghen tried to rough Lukaku up a bit whereas Toby was always in position and anticipating any threat, there was great respect from Lukaku on Vertonghen at the end where he knew he had a decent game against him. Toby was magnificent throughout.

I am not the biggest fan of Carroll yet but he played pretty well but started to burnout around 70 minutes, he was more adventurous in his play today by playing it forwards rather than a sideways style pass. The fact that we have the likes of Dembele, Mason and even Bentaleb to come back shows what a squad we have, Mason and Bentaleb were sure starters last season and now you wonder how much they will feature

Lloris - 8 - A couple of sloppy throws and kicks but made a great save from Besic and made a crucial save at the end, I always felt he looked comfortable

Davies - 7 - Defended well and got forwards well, unlucky not to score. You could argue he was ball watching for Lennon's goal

Vertonghen - 7 - Lukaku maybe got the better of him for the first goal but Lukaku runs rings around a lot of players and I thought he marshaled him pretty well

Toby - 9 - Read the game superbly, a lot of cut outs, headers away and a brilliant ball to Alli. He looked so calm in defence even when we were under pressure.

Walker - 7 - Got forwards excellent but I'm not sure why he never puts in a cross, he likes to retain possession, probably the instructions he's been given? Either way he's matured a lot this season

Dier - 7 - Felt like giving him a 6 but he done an awful lot of running today, a few misplaced passes though but he nullified most of the threat of Barkley by not giving him much time on the ball

Eriksen - 7 - Nice linkup play with Lamela and Alli at times, kept the ball well, very much involved first half, started to disappear a bit in the second but still a decent performance

Lamela - 8 - Excellent performance, kept the ball well, tried to make things happen, always gets himself into a position to receive the ball, works his arse off as well. Excellent

Alli - 9 - Brilliant performance again, first half he was everywhere, he creates so much space for himself and likes to play it forwards as well, brilliantly taken goal and even though he was carrying an injury he kept plugging away

Carroll - 7 - A lot more adventurous than he has been, kept the ball well, passed well. Easily shrugged off the ball by Besic and Barkley a few times, seemed to run out of steam around 70 minutes

Kane - 7 - Worked so hard the first half, so unlucky not to score, second half his touch let him down and I was hoping he'd throw himself at Alli's chest down with a header rather than take it in his stride. Brilliant first, mediocre second.

Son - 5 - Wasn't that impressed, easily shrugged off the ball, didn't pass as well as I would like, I trust him further up the pitch rather than scampering around the middle

Chadli - 6 - Some nice runs that ultimately came to nothing, it'll take him a few more weeks before he's back to his best

Onoooooomah - 5 - Not much time, didn't do much wrong though

 

[oohaahedgar]

Lloris-7.5
Walker-7
Verts-7
Toby-8
Davies-7
Carroll-7.5
Dier-6.5
Lamela-6.5
Eriksen-7
Alli-8.5
Kane-6

Son-5 off the pace

 

[chinaman]

Alli MOM today. This lad has the Martin Peters knack of being at the right place at the right time, ghosting into scoring positions unnoticed. Will soon be a greater success than Fat Lampard.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

I thought Carroll, Lamela, Davies, Alli nd Toby\Jan had good games.

Kane and Dier were poor.

Everyone else somewhere in between.

 

[The Apprentice]

Always makes me laugh when we play Everton at Goodison. Their fans literally appeal for everything, like a giant bunch of bed wetting nancies. They've been like it for years.

Cracking first half performance and stood up well to the inevitable improvement from the home team.

Once more, hard to pick a MoM, instead it was all about the overall. Maybe Alli, or Walker or Toby or Jan.

Kane and Dier desperately need a rest. Both were running in treacle after 60 mins.

Did Son have his boots on the right feet?

Please Daniel sign a striker. And quickly.

Good effort lads, we keep on rolling.

 

[Phomesy]

Gave MOM to Toby. Another all round excellent game.

 

[goughie1966]

Agree on Eriksen, he exerted more influence than he has done recently.

Carroll did good things, but he also did some dodgy things in dodgy positions, which isn't acceptable for a team looking to finish top 3.

Wasn't it Eriksen that got muscled off the ball allowing Everton to cross the ball to Lukaku for their goal?

 

[MrWoolley]

Toss of a coin between Alli and Toby. Both really good performances in their own rights.

 

[tiger666]

Wasn't it Eriksen that got muscled off the ball allowing Everton to cross the ball to Lukaku for their goal?

No it was Carroll's fault for being on the pitch clearly.

 

[SoulDog]

Toss of a coin between Alli and Toby. Both really good performances in their own rights.

I think Toby should get it, yes Ali scored the goal but I felt he didn't do that much else, few good moves etc but Toby was amazing all game, set up the goal, great tackles, blocks etc great balls,kept lukaku pretty quiet an excellent performance so I would give it to Toby

 

[Ossie85]

Wasn't it Eriksen that got muscled off the ball allowing Everton to cross the ball to Lukaku for their goal?

So?
The performance of a player doesn't all come down to what he did on a goal.
Carroll gave a short pass backwards and headed the ball in our box like a girl, both plays that could've cost us a goal if it weren't for Hugo.
I think he means that

 

[SoulDog]

So?
The performance of a player doesn't all come down to what he did on a goal.
Carroll gave a short pass backwards and headed the ball in our box like a girl, both plays that could've cost us a goal if it weren't for Hugo.
I think he means that

But people keep saying Carroll is to lightweight for the prem, eriksen is lightweight and gets pushed of the ball a lot of times like he did today

 

[Ossie85]

But people keep saying Carroll is to lightweight for the prem, eriksen is lightweight and gets pushed of the ball a lot of times like he did today

Yes, but Eriksen is an attacking player, scores goals and is the top assister. Carroll is in the defensive pair, and doesn't compensate his weakness
Different roles. It's as if you tell me that Lloris misses more passes than Lamela, so we shouldn't complain about Lamela's passes

 

[SoulDog]

Yes, but Eriksen is an attacking player, scores goals and is the top assister. Carroll is in the defensive pair, and doesn't compensate his weakness
Different roles. It's as if you tell me that Lloris misses more passes than Lamela, so we shouldn't complain about Lamela's passes

I agree but Carroll is not exactly a DM is he, he has got dier next to him and to be honest when he did give it away today Carroll always run back and tried to win it back, the yellow he got he had to do so fair play to him. I would like to see him in the number 10 role at some point. He didn't do much wrong today up until the last 10 mins or so, I think poch should of brought Benteleb on in the 2nd half. carrollmade the most passes today and saw the most touches. Not a bad game for a young up and coming player eh.

 

[Shea]

Lloris - 8 excellent save. good all round game (as always)

Walker - 8 Was great today, pressed hard, got forward well, put in some dangerous crosses.

Verts 7 generally played well but was bullied by Lukaku on occasion and turned his back for Lennon's goal

Toby - 8 great assist, solid all game

Davies - 7 So unlucky not to score, got forward well and defended well. Thought he was out of position for their goal and gave Lennon too much space as he drifted toward the ball without even pressuring Lukaku who Verts was already on

Carroll - 7 Played well for the most part, looked to make things happen, pressured and intercepted the ball when Everton had possession but on occasions he was sloppy and weak, his header out almost lost us the game. Overall though he had a good game and the fact we didn't seem to miss Dembele speaks volumes

Dier - 7 Played very well, solid, helped dominate the centre of the park and control the game. Sloppy passing at time

Lamela - 7 Really worked very hard, Was a bit lost on the left at times and wasn't getting in to the box to support the attack as much as he usually does but he worked very hard off the ball and his fighting to regain possession was a pleasure to watch. A few sloppy fouls aside he had a very good game. When he came off we started to lose control

Eriksen - 7 He looked good, but frustrating. Was often an out and making space, worked hard and linked play. Off the ball he put in a shift too but its frustrating not to see him continuing to show his match winning ability which we've all seen he is capable of

Alli - 8 Looked like a superstar today. Constantly put Everton under pressure both on and off the ball and just looks every bit a world class player in the making. His chest control and volley was the type of goal that had one of Messi, Suarez, Neymar, Ronald, etc scored we'd be seeing media wankfests about for days

Kane - 7 First half he looked great, big and strong, industrious and dangerous. So unlucky not to score with his strike from outside the box that smashed off the post. We didn't really give him enough support though - for all our possession and dominant play we weren't getting numbers or the ball in the box enough and we weren't carving out real chances for him. Second half of the second half he looked shagged, it really highlighted how much we need someone who is capable of covering and supporting him over the course of a long hard season

Son - 6 - Very disappointing. Yes the team as a whole tired and lost some of our control but he made no impact after coming on and if anything his introduction handed Everton the rest-bite they needed where as their subs gave them some foothold in the match

Chadli/Onomah - Not enough time to really make an impact. Chadli however was disappointing as like Son he did nothing when he was sent on to make an impact (the one time he got the ball in a threatening area he simply run into a defender and lost the ball without showing any intention of then tracking back to regain possession)

On the whole we were excellent - as good as anyone I've seen in the league this year. We were good enough to have comfortably won this game. I think our lack of squad strength let us down as we tired near the end and our subs added nothing to our chances of winning (we were weaker for the changes in fact)

We are a good, hard working team but we clearly need 1 or 2 signings to really have a chance of competing. Without the additions I fear it will be a what if year, one in which we'll probably run out of steam by easter only to rally near the end and come up short and all be looking back cursing a massive opportunity missed.

 

[mpickard2087]

I'm actually a bit disappointed with how that turned out. For me we had a really good platform in the game but it was largely down to our actions that it was squandered.

The first half we were extremely unlucky to only go in level. Despite Everton getting the opening goal (partly soft defending, but also a neat finish from Lennon to his credit) and having a couple of other moments for the most part I felt we controlled proceedings. The game was played in their half, we had long spells of possession and did a good job of penning them in and winning the ball back quickly when required. We maybe didn't quite find the final pass at times, but at others we were denied by some very good last ditch defending and we also smashed the woodwork twice. For me we looked far more the polished outfit and that's twice this season that we have 'outfootballed' them.

I'd even go as far as saying that the first 45 minutes was the performance of a team that you could look at and go 'well that's a team that looks like it could win the league'...

However things didn't continue that way unfortunately. I pondered at half time if we could keep this calm, composed control on the game or if it would be another game where we dropped off the longer it went on. We didn't have to wait long to find out. Right from the start of the second half we saw more frequent errors in possession and players attempting to force the issue too much which meant we weren't able to have the same spells of control/pressure and allowed them a slightly greater foothold. Despite this in my opinion we were still the ones making more of the running and dictating the game.

Then the real turning point happened. Everton's subs. Martinez basically waved the white flag and accepted we were too good for them at plan A - getting the ball down and playing passing football. In fact I don't think there was much of a plan B from him. They packed the midfield with an extra man (Besic) and just basically left Lukaku, Deulofeu and Barkley upfront doing little tracking back. Seemed clear to me, they wanted the game to open up and felt their only chance left was for the game to get faster, scrappier, end to end, and score on the counter.

I felt we aided them with this unfortunately. I know a few players tired (Kane and Dier particularly) but when we needed to stay calm and composed and work the ball around for openings, which surely would have come with them leaving players up pitch, we just couldn't find the same level of performance as the first half. Pochettino then made what I have to say were really poor subs. He took off one of our main ball players in Eriksen, our goal scorer on the day in Alli, and introduced Son and Chadli, who don't work as hard with or without the ball. The balance was wrong, we had kept our tired players on, and did our bit to make the closing stages an open affair where Everton were able to mount a late surge. In my opinion we needed 'ball players' on the pitch today second half and to try to get back to our control of play from the first half - Eriksen had to stay on, if we'd needed others then Onomah and/or Bentaleb (from deeper) and if we needed a more direct attacker then the braver decision would have been to take Kane off, who was flagging more than anyone. I really don't think we helped ourselves, both with on and off pitch decisions.

A point at Everton is perfectly acceptable, it's never the easiest place to go. However I cant shake the belief that we let a decent platform go. We were well placed in that game but couldn't kick on.

Lloris - A couple of good saves at the end of the game.

Walker - Solid enough game. Put in one cracking cross early on that deserved a goal, maybe could have used the space a bit more as the game wore on and attacked with more purpose.

Alderweireld - Pretty decent game.

Vertonghen - Mostly ok but I think he needs to put up a bit more of a fight at times. The goal was poor on two fronts, he (and Davies) made it a bit easy for Lukaku to head it down, and then it wasn't exactly the bravest attempted block you will see.

Davies - Mostly solid. Couple of good pieces of attacking play and was very unlucky not to score but I felt he was partly culpable for the space given to them for the goal, and he had a few issues with the amount of room given to Deulofeu later on.

Dier - First half perfectly ok, second half completely disappeared out of it towards the end. To be honest I thought he completely abandoned Carroll and was a poor defensive shield.

Carroll - I thought he did perfectly fine. There were a couple of tired errors towards the end but for the most part helped our possession game and got through a fair amount of defensive work. Was not helped by Dier going AWOL in the second half. Seems to be very much the scapegoat, mainly because he doesn't provide defensive splitting passes every 30 seconds and then win 50 tackles a game... Reminds me of Bentaleb criticism from a year or so back in that respect. I don't think he disgraced himself at all today though.

Eriksen - I'd like to see a bit more quality in and around the penalty area, but was neat and tidy and as I said I don't think subbing him off was the right call. We needed players of his ilk on the pitch. Would be nice to see him show a bit more desire competing for the ball at times...

Lamela - Put in a shift as always, contributed to our play but one of his less noticeable games of recent times though I felt.

Alli - A couple of times he dawdled on the ball and wasted good opportunities but he was busy and involved. Scored an absolutely superb goal with the chest control and finish. I don't know if he was injured but with Kane out of sorts I would have kept him on as the main goal threat.

Kane - Unlucky with his shot early on, first half was ok but second half was as subdued as I have ever seen him. Needs a rest by the looks of it.

Subs:
Son - Very poor, as has often been the case when used as a sub (Watford aside). Unable to get up to speed with or without the ball. His touch was poor and his pressing was weak and half hearted. Must do better.

Chadli - Didn't contribute much. As I said I thought he and Son were poor subs, particularly for who they replaced.

Onomah - n/a.

 

[Ossie85]

I agree but Carroll is not exactly a DM is he, he has got dier next to him and to be honest when he did give it away today Carroll always run back and tried to win it back, the yellow he got he had to do so fair play to him. I would like to see him in the number 10 role at some point. He didn't do much wrong today up until the last 10 mins or so, I think poch should of brought Benteleb on in the 2nd half. carrollmade the most passes today and saw the most touches. Not a bad game for a young up and coming player eh.

I don't think it has to do on whether he gives the ball away or not. It's when we have to win the ball back that I feel he comes short.
He has Dier, but leaving him alone to do all the defensive duties puts too much pressure on him, specially when we are talking about a player that's only been a DM for half a season, and that is showing to be a bit tired.
Today he played well the first half because we absolutely controlled the ball. In the second half when Everton pressed higher and it was an even game, Carrolls weakness became evident imo.

PS: He's not that young. He's been around for some time now, and he' close to being 24. He not a little kid anymore.

 

[SoulDog]

I'm actually a bit disappointed with how that turned out. For me we had a really good platform in the game but it was largely down to our actions that it was squandered.

The first half we were extremely unlucky to only go in level. Despite Everton getting the opening goal (partly soft defending, but also a neat finish from Lennon to his credit) and having a couple of other moments for the most part I felt we controlled proceedings. The game was played in their half, we had long spells of possession and did a good job of penning them in and winning the ball back quickly when required. We maybe didn't quite find the final pass at times, but at others we were denied by some very good last ditch defending and we also smashed the woodwork twice. For me we looked far more the polished outfit and that's twice this season that we have 'outfootballed' them.

I'd even go as far as saying that the first 45 minutes was the performance of a team that you could look at and go 'well that's a team that looks like it could win the league'...

However things didn't continue that way unfortunately. I pondered at half time if we could keep this calm, composed control on the game or if it would be another game where we dropped off the longer it went on. We didn't have to wait long to find out. Right from the start of the second half we saw more frequent errors in possession and players attempting to force the issue too much which meant we weren't able to have the same spells of control/pressure and allowed them a slightly greater foothold. Despite this in my opinion we were still the ones making more of the running and dictating the game.

Then the real turning point happened. Everton's subs. Martinez basically waved the white flag and accepted we were too good for them at plan A - getting the ball down and playing passing football. In fact I don't think there was much of a plan B from him. They packed the midfield with an extra man (Besic) and just basically left Lukaku, Deulofeu and Barkley upfront doing little tracking back. Seemed clear to me, they wanted the game to open up and felt their only chance left was for the game to get faster and scrappier end to end, and score on the counter.

I felt we aided them with this unfortunately. I know a few players tired (Kane and Dier particularly) but when we needed to stay calm and composed and work the ball around for openings, which surely would have come with them leaving players up pitch, we just couldn't find the same level of performance as the first half. Pochettino then made what have to say were really poor subs. He took off one of main ball players in Eriksen, our goal scorer on the day in Alli and introduced Son and Chadli, who don't work as hard with or without the ball, the balance was wrong, we had kept our tired players on, and did our bit to make the closing stages an open affair where Everton were able to mount a late surge. In my opinion we needed 'ball players' on the pitch today second half and to try to get back to our control of play from the first half - Eriksen had to stay on, if we'd needed others then Onomah and/or Bentaleb (from deeper) and if we needed a more direct attacker then the braver decision would have been to take Kane off, who was flagging more than anyone. I really don't think we helped ourselves, both with on and off pitch decisions.

A point at Everton is perfectly acceptable, it's never the easiest place to go. However I cant shake the belief that we let a decent platform go. We were well placed in that game but couldn't kick on.

Lloris - A couple of good saves at the end of the game.

Walker - Solid enough game. Put in one cracking cross early on that deserved a goal, maybe could have used the space a bit more as the game wore on and attacked with more purpose.

Alderweireld - Pretty decent game.

Vertonghen - Mostly ok but I think he needs to put up a bit more of a fight at times. The goal was poor on two fronts, he (and Davies) made it a bit easy for Lukaku to head it down, and then it wasn't exactly the bravest attempted block you will see.

Davies - Mostly solid. Couple of good pieces of attacking play and was very unlucky not to score but I felt he was partly culpable for the space given to them for the goal, and he had a few issues with the amount of room given to Deulofeu later on.

Dier - First half perfectly ok, second half completely disappeared out of it towards the end. To be honest I thought he completely abandoned Carroll and was a poor defensive shield.

Carroll - I thought he did perfectly fine. There were a couple of tired errors towards the end but for the most part helped our possession game and got through a fair amount of defensive work. Was not helped by Dier going AWOL in the second half. Seems to be very much the scapegoat, mainly because he doesn't provide defensive splitting passes every 30 seconds and then win 50 tackles a game... Reminds me of Bentaleb criticism from a year or so back in that respect. I don't think he disgraced himself at all today though.

Eriksen - I'd like to see a bit more quality in and around the penalty area, but was neat and tidy and as I said I don't think subbing him off was the right call. We needed players of his ilk on the pitch. Would be nice to see him show a bit more desire competing for the ball at times...

Lamela - Put in a shift as always, contributed to our play but one of his less noticeable games of recent times though I felt.

Alli - A couple of times he dawdled on the ball and wasted good opportunities but he was busy and involved. Scored an absolutely superb goal with the chest control and finish. I don't know if he was injured but with Kane out of sorts I would have kept him on as the main goal threat.

Kane - Unlucky with his shot early on, first half was ok but second half was as subdued as I have ever seen him. Needs a rest by the looks of it.

Subs:
Son - Very poor, as has often been the case when used as a sub (Watford aside). Unable to get up to speed with or without the ball. His touch was poor and his pressing was weak and half hearted. Must do better.

Chadli - Didn't contribute much. As I said I thought he and Son were poor subs, particularly for who they replaced.

Onomah - n/a.

Pretty much agree with this. I think Everton were happy to sit back first half and get us on the counter but they couldn't keep it up all match we were going to score eventually. I'm glad we carried on playing exactly the same and the players heads didn't drop after the goal. I think poch needed to change things quicker in the 2nd half he had many options to change it and get control in midfield but he just did his normal subs.

I think Ali was injured tho he wasn't moving right.