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Significant news on Harry ?

arnoldlayne

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GREED!



Both Lenny and myself (if you are alluding to us) said we have a gut feeling that he wouldn't be a good choice for us...a gut feeling, nothing else (and would be glad, if he signed, to have that gut feeling dispelled). That is a million miles from saying he is a bad manager. I certainly never said that, and I don't think Lenny did.

Can't speak for those who wouldn't want him because he plays boring football.
ok - I probably misunderstood that
 

Narnill

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Not sure what you're saying there. That you can still be boring and beat Wigan by 8 goals? were we boring too?

What about when Chelsea had the following string of results?

Athletico Madrid - 4-0
Blackburn - 5-0
Bolton - 4-0
Bolton - 4-0
Man Utd - 1-0
Wolves - 4-0
Porto - 1-0
Arsenal 3-0


Or in the same season beat us 3-0, Sunderland 7-2, Villa 7-1, Portsmouth 5-0, Stoke 7-0.

OMFG they bored me to tears that year.
 

Spurs_Bear

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Not sure what you're saying there. That you can still be boring and beat Wigan by 8 goals? were we boring too?

What about when Chelsea had the following string of results?

Athletico Madrid - 4-0
Blackburn - 5-0
Bolton - 4-0
Bolton - 4-0
Man Utd - 1-0
Wolves - 4-0
Porto - 1-0
Arsenal 3-0


Or in the same season beat us 3-0, Sunderland 7-2, Villa 7-1, Portsmouth 5-0, Stoke 7-0.

OMFG they bored me to tears that year.

What happened the following year?
 

OmarsComing

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Abramovich killed the goose that laid the golden eggs - the 2nd time he's done that.
 

nicdic

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He was paid a percentage of transfer fees recouped

This. He's had it in most of his contracts, that he gets a percentage on players sold that he bought. Mandaric and Storrie preferred to pay him into offshore accounts minus any tax deductions.
 

we_all_loved_freund

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I believe that their defence is that Mandaric loaned the money to Harry for an investment. There was a subsequent (after the investigation?) communication from Mandaric asking for the money back.

Let's hope for a jury full of Spurs supporters.

Lets hope not as he will probably end up on death row!
 

Paolo10

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It's always sounded to me like the Chairmen are dodgier than the managers in these cases, hope it rings true.

LOL@mentioning Lester Piggot earlier whoever that was, probably Dan. £3m is a touch more than what we're talking about.

Offshore accounts, legality and payments are something I'm sure Harry's very familiar with, what with him sinking Pompey and Southampton (because he cooked all those books himself obviously...with a pencil, paper and an abacus because he's so fucking old school.). After all I'm sure that aspect of finance is very simple.
 

stevenqoz

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Maybe Harry won't be back for us until after the trial.....heart surgery is a pretty decent excuse......it would be more straighforward to stretch his sick leave out until after xmas
 

brasil_spur

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This. He's had it in most of his contracts, that he gets a percentage on players sold that he bought. Mandaric and Storrie preferred to pay him into offshore accounts minus any tax deductions.

If this is the case then he should be done for having such a crappy off-shore bank account, any decent off-shore account won't have let HMRC see the transactions.
 

spursandbarca

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problem is mandaric used a US based company called first star investments to make the transaction. The US justice department has then helped inland revenue subpoena the account.
 

Star_of_Davids

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If this is the case then he should be done for having such a crappy off-shore bank account, any decent off-shore account won't have let HMRC see the transactions.

Those days are in the past. HMRC now doing deals with countries such as Liechtenstein and Switzerland so that banks are disclosing details to them
 

SpurSince57

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So we're agreed that Levy didn't insist on Harry being fully open about the matter before he appointed him?
 

Paolo10

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So we're agreed that Levy didn't insist on Harry being fully open about the matter before he appointed him?

The only thing rumoured to have been fully open with that arrangement was a large brown paper bag...eh eh?

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StartingPrice

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So we're agreed that Levy didn't insist on Harry being fully open about the matter before he appointed him?

Open enough to know to keep him away form the purse strings :wink:

Everything about Dan levy suggests he knew exactly what he needed to know, and would insist on knowing no less, and probably no more.
 

Bus-Conductor

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This. Chelsea fans are happier with what's happening under AVB than watching the boring football Ancelotti offered.

Anyone that's wants someone who thinks about the future is barking completely up the wrong tree with Ancelotti.

That's surprising. Considering they absolutely smashed quite a few teams in his first season in charge (Especially at home, where they only lost once btw) and his team broke the league record for most goals scored (103) and highest goal difference in a season (+71) since the premier league was introduced.

It's not surprising, it's bollocks. I know a few chelsea fans and they wouldn't have swapped Ancellotti his first year for anyone, they all reckoned it was the best football they'd ever seen them play.

Second year he was a dead man walking for about 8 months, and everyone knew it. They were even signing players he didn't want.
 

Spurs_Bear

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It's not surprising, it's bollocks. I know a few chelsea fans and they wouldn't have swapped Ancellotti his first year for anyone, they all reckoned it was the best football they'd ever seen them play.

Second year he was a dead man walking for about 8 months, and everyone knew it. They were even signing players he didn't want.

Well it's not. Maybe we know different fans?

Naturally it was someone else's fault the second season, was nothing to with Ancelotti. Of course.
 
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