As a bruising defensive midfielder
Sigurdsson - Does AVB see something special I can't?
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TrueYid
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Better at getting in the box and scoring goals? Name one!
Spurger King
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Lamela? Getting in the box and scoring goals is exactly what he was good at doing for Roma.
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Lets just list down who else can play one the left and you'll understand
Townsend has nailed down the RW spot, and it wont be changing anytime soon
1. Lennon. Lacks height, doesnt get into the box enough, doesnt score enough goals, cant cross with his left.
2. Holtby. Nope. We've seen him play there and hes not effective at all. A leftie but tends to drifts in instead of going wide, playing him on the left makes his extremely awkward. On top of that he played well at am last night so he should stay there
3. Lamela. Used to play on the left. Like the transfer rumour thread, if we are gonna get gaitan, i would rather use lamela the same way on the. He can give us the width we need and pump and crosses and through ball for soldado. Cons is that hes still unsettled, prefers to play on the right, dwells on the ball too much instead of moving the ball faster. If we need width, arguably he would be the best fit
4. Eriksen. Imo the best fit for the lw spot. Intitally it was a headache because eriksen is a traditional 10. Him and holtby are suppose to battle out for no.10 spot. His creativity, dribbling and ability to cut in and take a shot/pass makes him the best fit for LW spot imo. Siggy is kinda like the less talented, but slightly more hardworking version of eriksen.
If i was avb i will play
Soldado
Eriksen-holtby-townsend.
If we need width then either eriksen or holtby gets sub for lamela, with lamela going to the left. If we wants to stick with cutting inside then sig in for either, morning to the left.
Vice versa, if i want width on the right then lennon on the right, if i want to keep cutting in then lamela sub for townsend.
In the perfect world i would love a player thats truly comfortable player on the left, and is right footed, basically willian-esque.
If we cant, our options are still incredibly deep. I dont think siggy is surplus to the requirement. He gives us the set piece threat when eriksen is out, except i feel that he shouldnt be starting. He should be behind eriksen at the LW spot. The biggest asset sig has over eriksen though, is his effort for tracking back. But still, i would start eriksen over him on the lw spot.
Siggy had been doing a decent job for the past few games, but the moment avb tries eriksen on left with holtby in the middle, trust me he will not go back
Townsend has nailed down the RW spot, and it wont be changing anytime soon
1. Lennon. Lacks height, doesnt get into the box enough, doesnt score enough goals, cant cross with his left.
2. Holtby. Nope. We've seen him play there and hes not effective at all. A leftie but tends to drifts in instead of going wide, playing him on the left makes his extremely awkward. On top of that he played well at am last night so he should stay there
3. Lamela. Used to play on the left. Like the transfer rumour thread, if we are gonna get gaitan, i would rather use lamela the same way on the. He can give us the width we need and pump and crosses and through ball for soldado. Cons is that hes still unsettled, prefers to play on the right, dwells on the ball too much instead of moving the ball faster. If we need width, arguably he would be the best fit
4. Eriksen. Imo the best fit for the lw spot. Intitally it was a headache because eriksen is a traditional 10. Him and holtby are suppose to battle out for no.10 spot. His creativity, dribbling and ability to cut in and take a shot/pass makes him the best fit for LW spot imo. Siggy is kinda like the less talented, but slightly more hardworking version of eriksen.
If i was avb i will play
Soldado
Eriksen-holtby-townsend.
If we need width then either eriksen or holtby gets sub for lamela, with lamela going to the left. If we wants to stick with cutting inside then sig in for either, morning to the left.
Vice versa, if i want width on the right then lennon on the right, if i want to keep cutting in then lamela sub for townsend.
In the perfect world i would love a player thats truly comfortable player on the left, and is right footed, basically willian-esque.
If we cant, our options are still incredibly deep. I dont think siggy is surplus to the requirement. He gives us the set piece threat when eriksen is out, except i feel that he shouldnt be starting. He should be behind eriksen at the LW spot. The biggest asset sig has over eriksen though, is his effort for tracking back. But still, i would start eriksen over him on the lw spot.
Siggy had been doing a decent job for the past few games, but the moment avb tries eriksen on left with holtby in the middle, trust me he will not go back
OmarsComing
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He's got 96 free kick ability on FIFA 14
CowInAComa
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We should pick the first 11 based on how much they cost. Failing that reputation.
WiganSpur
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It's a strange one because there are better players than him. Simple. He scores the occasional goal and he's a pretty tidy player but he isn't a playmaker or a winger. I'd probably best describe him as an attacking midfielder who can hit one from range and has pretty decent movement. That's about it. He isn't bad but i'd sooner have Townsend, Lamela, Chadli, Eriksen or Lennon over him in that left wing spot.
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What terrible terrible attributes. I say we ban him.
AVB is essentially cautious and this applies to the selection of players.
Our playing style shows this; the introduction of Lloris shows it too.
Chiriches is slowly working his way in.
Siggy works hard scores goals etc as the OS acknowledges.
AVB has possibly better players who haven't yet settled or proved themselves.
so he sticks with players who have done OK.
It's a bit like rock climbing, don't let go until you have a secure new handhold.
Holtby for Eriksen was another example yesterday.
Best start in the Prem. 3 points off top, 4th consecutive away clean sheet.
Soldado 's first open play Prem goal.
It seems to be working.
It's not exciting but it is effective.
Our playing style shows this; the introduction of Lloris shows it too.
Chiriches is slowly working his way in.
Siggy works hard scores goals etc as the OS acknowledges.
AVB has possibly better players who haven't yet settled or proved themselves.
so he sticks with players who have done OK.
It's a bit like rock climbing, don't let go until you have a secure new handhold.
Holtby for Eriksen was another example yesterday.
Best start in the Prem. 3 points off top, 4th consecutive away clean sheet.
Soldado 's first open play Prem goal.
It seems to be working.
It's not exciting but it is effective.
Ginolas_Hair
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I don't think it's fair to compare Siggy to the likes of Krancjar or VdV - his work rate alone makes him stand out in my opinion plus Arry's 4-4-2 did not suit either of those players.
Yes you can mull about where Siggy's true position is and whether he'd be pushed out in to a midfield with an adapted and in-form Lamela, Chadli, Eriksen etc. But fundamentally, Siggy is playing because he has played well so far this season, knows the PL and is connecting well with other AM's and Soldado.
Personally, I like having Siggy in the starting XI. Yes he may not be a natural pacey winger but his driving diagonal runs between the opposition's LB and CB has lead to some important goals for us. Plus, he's a pretty cool finisher.
Yes you can mull about where Siggy's true position is and whether he'd be pushed out in to a midfield with an adapted and in-form Lamela, Chadli, Eriksen etc. But fundamentally, Siggy is playing because he has played well so far this season, knows the PL and is connecting well with other AM's and Soldado.
Personally, I like having Siggy in the starting XI. Yes he may not be a natural pacey winger but his driving diagonal runs between the opposition's LB and CB has lead to some important goals for us. Plus, he's a pretty cool finisher.
Ginolas_Hair
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I'd rather have Siggy on the left-side than Lennon, Townsend or Eriksen. Lennon and Townsend are more effective on the right IMO and Eriksen is too creative not to be in the centre to unlock defences and bring others into the play - such as picking up Siggy's run in to the box like against Norwich.
Mister Jez
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I will take effective over exciting, every day of the week. Having been a Spurs Fan for over 50 years, I've seen too many exciting sides that, apart from a cup run here or there. Flatter to deceive. I would be more than happy to have a boring season, finish top 3 and win the Europa League. I suspect 95% of you would probably agree with me.
Well it's not a new debate that's for sure.
Ends/means; exciting/effective.
There's something in our DNA that asks what's the point of winning ugly.
And I certainly ask it.
But they are not mutually exclusive and it's only a dilemma in theory.
It's just a 'which would you prefer' mind game.
By definition for me 'exciting' will win the points as its part of playing well.
I'm with Danny Blanchflower
but he was part of a team that did both, though not all the time.
I'm getting too old for another boring season
and one boring effective season leads to another
because why change if it's working.
I'll take it every day of the week
except matchdays.
$hoguN
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I have no problem with him choosing Siggy on the left providing AVB reacts when it is not working. Against West Ham and for too long yesterday we persisted with Siggy when it was obvious someone more inclined to stay outwide would have made the bigger impact. My onion of course.
mpickard2087
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He gets in purely because he will get himself in the box and in a position to finish off chances. Apart from Soldado and Paulinho we have no one else who does this on a regular basis.
Krafty
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AVB says that whenever Siggy is picked, he delivers. I think his technique, especially when shooting, is excellent, he works hard for the team, and his runs into the box are brilliant.
The downside is that he doesn't really have the pace to beat a man, and sometimes his starting position can be too narrow which crowds the play. But he is a lot better on the left, coming on to the play, then as the number 10, trying to be the central point for the play.
I was a bit disappointed he didn't do better with that header in the first half.
The downside is that he doesn't really have the pace to beat a man, and sometimes his starting position can be too narrow which crowds the play. But he is a lot better on the left, coming on to the play, then as the number 10, trying to be the central point for the play.
I was a bit disappointed he didn't do better with that header in the first half.
----------------------Lloris------------------
Kaboul-------Chiriches-----Capoue------Verts
---------------Sandro------Paulinho----------
Lamela--------------Dembele----------Eriksen
-----------------------Soldado------------------
Not a bad team actually (at least we got rid of Bentley, otherwise he'd be in there, and Gomes just missed the cut upfront)
