Simple Harry Vote - Yes or No?

[StartingPrice]

Really? That isn't the impression I get. And whoever said he was immune from criticism? Not I. We had a very poor nine-game run following the fiasco at the Immigrants, and whilst I think the players also need to hold up their hands, the buck stops with H. However, what's cost us the CL bonanza is Chelsea's fluking the bloody thing. We got fourth, which was probably our best realistic position at the start of the season, and achieved it with one of our best points totals ever. If some of our fans think that's a sacking matter, their wits are utterly fucked.

Well, er, if you've ever got the idea that I, personally, am not gratefult for what he has achieved, then you clearly haven't read anything I've said. But does it really need to be repeated in every single post (perhaps we should all just a get a sig stating how eternally gratefully we are, so that there is no misunderstanding in the future, eh)!

As said, the post was meant in good humour, a bit of a joke if you will - I can't help it if you took that the wrong way. That doesn't mean I am demanding his head on a silver platter - a dead give away would be that I said I'm not exactlyapoplectic at the idea of himleading us into the new season. But, as I have said, at length, previously, when being abused by the Redknapp Loyalists anyone who can't at least postulate the hypothesis that these final third of season collapses are part of his MO, really shouldn;t be getting too far into a heated debate defending him, should they? In which, case, and I am sure you have the intellect to do this, we do have to ask if he has taken us as far as he can - why should theere be any acrimony about that - let alone the outright hostility it induces? After all King Kev just said it himself, when he was England manager.

And, of course the players need to have a long, hard look at themselves - ironically enough, because he is the most likely to jump ship, Modric for hamstringing us at the start of the season. And, of course, I personally have made the point several times that if the Chavs hadn't somehow contrived to win the CL (or, more pertinently, if Bayern Munich hadn't contrived to throw it away), we did attain our goal, asset out at the start of the season, and so no-one should be going too overboard in anti-Redknapp fury. But, the sensible concensus, insofar as I can tell, is that Levy should either back him or sack him - that is the conclusion I have reached and that is why I haven't cast a vote. The problem is that, as others pointed out, immediately, it is not so straightforward as to demand a YES/NO answer - IMHO, obviously, and by demanding that, I would imagine far more members have voted for him to be replaced than actually belong to the genuine anti-Redknapp brigade, which is probably rather small.

You will probably gather from this that I think you are, to a certain extent (and the real Redknapp loyalists to the Nth degree), overracting somewhat. With one or two exceptions, who never wanted him as manager and are more intent on feeling vindicated than wanting what is best for the club, most of us just want to see whatis obviously a really good group of players progressing. And, realistically, aside from any other considerations concerning his limitations, Mr Redknapp is 65, and has just had a horribly stressful season. Will he be able to take us forward the season after next, and the season after that? Because that is what most of us are looking for - if there is someone able to take us that extra mile, and who is young enough to have the promise of a decade or so at the helm, we would be prepared to wave goodbye to Mr Redknapp - it would be ridiculous not to. And, at the end of the day, Mr Redknapp does what is best for him - why shouldn't the club do the same?

 

[SpurSince57]

Nothing you posted gave me the impression that you thought Harry should go. I got it from the approximate 50% of voters who apparently want him out. Mind you, one is a numbfuck brain donor who believed (and presumably still does believe) that Michael Dawson is best employed as a defensive midfielder; I know this because he neg-repped my post.

Am I over-reacting? I don't think so. I'm not pro-Harry by any means (perhaps you will remember that my response to the rumour that fat fuck Kemsley wanted him to replace Jol consisted of two words, the second of them being 'off'), but I am against stupidity, and there's a whole lot of stupidity to be against.

 

[jamesc0le]

 

[StartingPrice]

Nothing you posted gave me the impression that you thought Harry should go. I got it from the approximate 50% of voters who apparently want him out. Mind you, one is a numbfuck brain donor who believed (and presumably still does believe) that Michael Dawson is best employed as a defensive midfielder; I know this because he neg-repped my post.

Am I over-reacting? I don't think so. I'm not pro-Harry by any means (perhaps you will remember that my response to the rumour that fat fuck Kemsley wanted him to replace Jol consisted of two words, the second of them being 'off'), but I am against stupidity, and there's a whole lot of stupidity to be against.

Yeah...but like I said, this thread directly asks if Redknapp should be in charge next season YES/NO. I lot of the votes for NO aren't necessarily vehemently againstthe man, they are just making a choice, when pushed. Maybe they would have been better taking the Fifth, like me, but that doesn't mean 50% of SC have suddenly mutated into Dan Ashcroft clones, either.

Anyway, the point was that I was having a bit of fun - hence the - and you jumped on it as though I represented everything that was most shallow in anti-Redknapp-ness

 

[Mullers]

Really? That isn't the impression I get. And whoever said he was immune from criticism? Not I. We had a very poor nine-game run following the fiasco at the Immigrants, and whilst I think the players also need to hold up their hands, the buck stops with H. However, what's cost us the CL bonanza is Chelsea's fluking the bloody thing. We got fourth, which was probably our best realistic position at the start of the season, and achieved it with one of our best points totals ever. If some of our fans think that's a sacking matter, their wits are utterly fucked.

At the start of the season I agree fourth was the best realistic position, however towards the end of the season third was the best realistic position and he, to put it bluntly fucked it up and rightly some people were pissed off. When people look back on his reign there is going to be a little asterisk besides that second fourth place finish.

 

[SpurSince57]

At the start of the season I agree fourth was the best realistic position, however towards the end of the season third was the best realistic position and he, to put it bluntly fucked it up and rightly some people were pissed off. When people look back on his reign there is going to be a little asterisk besides that second fourth place finish.

Well, I guess he'll be in good company, then. Nicholson, Rowe and Burkinshaw have a lot more.

 

[JimmyG2]

Yeah...but like I said, this thread directly asks if Redknapp should be in charge next season YES/NO. I lot of the votes for NO aren't necessarily vehemently againstthe man, they are just making a choice, when pushed. Maybe they would have been better taking the Fifth, like me, but that doesn't mean 50% of SC have suddenly mutated into Dan Ashcroft clones, either.

Anyway, the point was that I was having a bit of fun - hence the - and you jumped on it as though I represented everything that was most shallow in anti-Redknapp-ness

Dear me SP. make your mind up FFS.
I got 3/5 penalties by the way. The little bugger saved one and I hit the post with the last.
I find the question difficult to answer.
I don't want him to stay, particularly, but I wouldn't mind if he went.
Perhaps it's Dan Levy I should be challenging.
Pity there wasn't a 'goat' option

 

[StartingPrice]

Dear me SP. make your mind up FFS.
I got 3/5 penalties by the way. The little bugger saved one and I hit the post with the last.
I find the question difficult to answer.
I don't want him to stay, particularly, but I wouldn't mind if he went.
Perhaps it's Dan Levy I should be challenging.
Pity there wasn't a 'goat' option

? Que ?

 

[JimmyG2]

? Que ?

I refer you to our previous correspondance;

Pistols? That's a bit over dramatic surely.
It is Shirley isn't it?
Can we make it best of five penalties?
I'll take mine against one of my grandchildren
in full Iker Casillas strip, he's eight and quite good
and let you know how I get on.

You don't have to take them at Dawn by the way.

 

[StartingPrice]

I refer you to our previous correspondance;

Pistols? That's a bit over dramatic surely.
It is Shirley isn't it?
Can we make it best of five penalties?
I'll take mine against one of my grandchildren
in full Iker Casillas strip, he's eight and quite good
and let you know how I get on.

You don't have to take them at Dawn by the way.

I didn't threaten to shoot you as well when I was pissed, did I?

<MEMO TO SELF: LEAVE OF GROG>

 

[Jenko]

To hear Brendan Rodgers speaking from Liverpool I am more and more convinced we made a mistake not getting him in

 

[spurs]

yes as long as Levy can sort a reasonable contract situation.
1) overall last season was (very) good and above most fans and all pundits expectations
2) These last few years have been among the best years in terms of both winning matches and quality of football in the last 30 odd years.
3) A new manager is likely to be worse eg Gross, Santini, Ardiles, Graham, Ramos, Francis etc etc etc. We all creamed ourselves over Ramos and he was a disaster.
3b) a new manager is always a sexy option and will have all the strengths of the current manager but none of the weaknesses. This is just fantasy.
3c) If the new manager came in and gave us 4th, 5th, 4th - that would be reasonably successful.
4) Yes he talks A LOT and a lot of that is to make himself look good. I don't have as much of a problem with that as a lot of Spurs fans. a) Spurs have been hated by all fans all my life - but now we are a lot of fans 2nd team; b) current and ex pros tallk favourably about Spurs now; c) i have a much closer connection to the club than I did than I did under Ramos who never spoke; d) some of it is to deflect pressure away from the players

 

[THOWIG]

Two of the brightest and most exciting managers have already been snapped up. I can't see Harry going anywhere.

 

[ethanedwards]

To hear Brendan Rodgers speaking from Liverpool I am more and more convinced we made a mistake not getting him in

It's all about timing.

 

[Col_M]

Just wondering if any of this Hodgson/Rio rift being reported by the media is the inevitable backlash for not appointing their pin-up and "people's favourite" as England Manager.

 

[southlondonyiddo]

Two of the brightest and most exciting managers have already been snapped up. I can't see Harry going anywhere.

Harry must stay now and be given a couple more years on his contract. A very decent manager and stability verses who knows what!!

 

[DuDe]

Just wondering if any of this Hodgson/Rio rift being reported by the media is the inevitable backlash for not appointing their pin-up and "people's favourite" as England Manager.

Perhaps in part, but I think most of it has to do with (the strong impression given to us that) the F.A. are 'wearing' Woy like a glove puppet and the 'Same Shit Different Year' stale and un-inventive attitude all-round.

 

[Col_M]

But didn't Roy talk to Rio before naming the squad? I thought there was a discussion about whether Rio was willing to work with join the squad??

 

[StartingPrice]

Just wondering if any of this Hodgson/Rio rift being reported by the media is the inevitable backlash for not appointing their pin-up and "people's favourite" as England Manager.

I do hope so - Plug was at the forefront of pressurising the FA into appointing Redknapp while he was our manager, and, therefore, the manager of a rival at the top of the table (at the time), and the pressure on the FA, with the almost automatic assumption in many quaters that the job was Redknapp's, contributed to the general unsettling of our club at a vital time of the season.

 

[sloth]

Harry must stay now and be given a couple more years on his contract. A very decent manager and stability verses who knows what!!

Here's a question then, at what point do you replace a manager?